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Anti-Americanism-Why?

yennut

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I have encountered an extreme amount of anti-american sentiment on this board and I am really curious as to why? It seems to me that most Canadians have an inferiority complex when dealing with Americans. I realize that most people around the world wish they could live in the U.S.A. and more importantly be an American citizen, but I wouldn't expect this from Canadians. Being an American and having lived in Toronto for the past 3 years I find it really amusing how Canadians get all defensive about their country. The first step in getting over this defensiveness is to realize Canada's place in the world and learn to accept it. Canada has rode America's coattails, probably since its confederation, and has done very well for itself doing this, but its citizenery must accept that Canada's sphere of influence is limited. As a matter of fact Canada does not even control its own natural resources, as most are controlled by American conglomerates. Canada really only exists at the whim of America. If we really wanted total control, who would stop us. Learn to live with it and thank America don't disparage it. I know the truth hurts!
 

Dorm201

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You just answered your own question(s). Though not in your post, but rather your tone and attitude.
 

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Any or all

Although Dorm's answer should suffice
 

yennut

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What is wrong with my tone or my attitude? Confidence and being outspoken breeds success. As our President George W. Bush so eloquently said "In Texas we call my swagger, walking." When you are the best why should you try to hide it. Is it something to be ashamed of?
 

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My Sincerest Apology.

On behalf of the shrinking minority of Americans with intelligence, I apologize for the multitude of narrow minded a-holes in my country.

Sincerely
 

wildchilds

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I would be ashamed to be an American, thus the reason us Canadians when travelling abroad proudly display our Canadian flags so as not to be confused with whiney/pompus Americans.
Did not see to much 'swagger" when you got your asses handed to you on Sept 11th as tragic as that was, your 'Swaggin" leader chose to take the bully approach and invade a country that had nothing to do with Sept 11th, yet Americans still wonder why they are looked down upon in the worlds view
 

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yennut said:
The first step in getting over this defensiveness is to realize Canada's place in the world and learn to accept it. Canada has rode America's coattails, probably since its confederation, and has done very well for itself doing this, but its citizenery must accept that Canada's sphere of influence is limited. As a matter of fact Canada does not even control its own natural resources, as most are controlled by American conglomerates. Canada really only exists at the whim of America. If we really wanted total control, who would stop us. Learn to live with it and thank America don't disparage it. I know the truth hurts!
Substitute "a woman" for Canada, and "the men" for America in the above quote to see what you are actually saying.

Idiot.

</The Shake>
 

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yennut said:
What is wrong with my tone or my attitude? Confidence and being outspoken breeds success. As our President George W. Bush so eloquently said "In Texas we call my swagger, walking." When you are the best why should you try to hide it. Is it something to be ashamed of?
LOL......keep talking, your doing an excellent job reinforcing what Dorm201 said earlier.
Now lets hear some more :D
 

Dorm201

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You're not the best, and you can't accept that. The US is ahead of most countries in terms of economics and military spending, but those are your metrics for success, not everyone's. When you realize that then you'll understand the fallicy of your statements. Educationally, culturally, socially, and in many other ways, you're inferior to many countries around the world. I'm not saying Canada is the paragon of socio-cultural advancement, I'm saying that the US is far far behind in many aspects of human life. Yet you don't see countries lording it over others.

Do I need to spell it out further like a big budget Hollywood movie?

PS... I think you're mistaking arrogance with confidence. Confidence is knowing your own abilities, arrogance is the need to boisterously proclaim assumed abilities at the top of your lungs.
 

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yennut said:
I realize that most people around the world wish they could live in the U.S.A. and more importantly be an American citizen.

Canada has rode America's coattails, probably since its confederation,

Canada really only exists at the whim of America. If we really wanted total control, who would stop us.
peckerwood sez what?
 

johnyboy

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The super rich prey on the stupid..like you so while you are shooting your mouth off they are helping themselves to your share of the pie as well.
 

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I must say i have many american friends and some relatives and they are very nice and great people, but as a whole any chance i get especially in a sporting manner i always cheer for the other team whether its the olympics or the ryder cup in golf, im not sure if it has anything to do with media or the fact that there government acts like its the only place in the world of any importance and completely have shown a disregard for the rest of the world. I think u would find the majority of canadians have no problem with US ppl but more with personna the US has made for itself.
 

Goober Mcfly

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Ever notice that Americans never start their threads in the proper forum?

</painting with a broad stroke like americanson>
 

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Goober Mcfly said:
Ever notice that Americans never start their threads in the proper forum?

</painting with a broad stroke like americanson>
Actually this is not about politics but about hate.
He thinks we hate americans, and I think its the right forum
 

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I'm pro-american but let me ask you this:

If America is so wonderful and great then why do you have so many murders, school shootings, workplace shootings, etc etc?????
You have more miserable and unhappy people per square mile then any other country. Every time I travel to the States I notice a difference in mentality, and so do a lot of other people.
So my question to you is if America is so great then why hasnt it reflected it into the mental state of the american people?????
 

Dorm201

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Ignore them Yen. It's like fighting a losing battle. While true that not all Canadians are anti-american it has sadly become well a hallmark of sorts in the past few years. This is while they: 1) ASre protected by the U.S. military 24-7-365. Free of charge.

2) Export 85% of all goods into america which accounts for over half their trade.

3) Undoubtedly profit handsomely from our pop culture. That includes favorite movies, shows, clothers, music etc.

4) Call us "bullies" whenever a trade dispute occurs.

5) The laughable excuse that "they hate the Bush administration" but not U.S. americans or america in general. Yeah right. Anything and everything in Canada that is even remotely pro-american (eg. Conservative Party, National Post, etc.) is viewed with contempt.

6) It's not anti-american it's "Canadian Soverignty"

7) A gov't funded "news source" at a rate of 1 billion a year of tax dollars dedicated to anti-americanism and anti-semitism. The CBC of course.

8) Iraq is all about Oil. Washington put Saddam into power (Not true) Rather the truth is that we sided with him vs Iran back in 1983 because of Iraq 's oil
Other countries that did so were France, Russia, China, And West Germany.

9) The 1991 Gulf War is okay because Canada was involved.

10) Finally we are all brainwashed puppets who buy into Bush's scare tactics that another terror strike is imminent. Uh and we're supposed to believe it's not? Sadly Canada isn't the first or last to suggest this rather it was local drunk Senator Ted Kennedy who said that Bush was capitalizing on 9-11 to further his political agenda.

Need I go on? In the end many may see America as arrogant but when you can back up what you sday (Walk The Talk) it's not arrogance. Instead it can be called stating the facts.
Let's see, breaking down your arguments:

1. How are we protected by the US military? Who's invading North America? You do realize that the only reason why anyone would invade Canada is to be a staging ground for attacking the US? If the US weren't viewed as a threat to world peace, then Canada would never be in danger.

2. I agree, the US and Canada are strong trading partners. Greatly due to proximity. At the same time, the US profits greatly from this partnership, but it isn't as apparent due to the fact that Canada is 5% the size of the US economy.

3. Mere opinion, there are no facts to backup your statement.

4. Again, mere opinions. Provide facts or you'll just end up arguing back and forth on opinion.

5. Last time I saw, Canadians were less Liberal, to the point of voting in a minority government. This indicates a sway to the right, not the left. So if we're voting in more Conservatives, how is your statement true?

6. Arguing about the meaning of words is pointless.

7. Again, your views are based on opinion. Provide statistics, or links to anti-semetic/american CBC reporting. I recall CBC heavily covering the anti-semite vandalisms a while ago, but I don't recall them supporting such things.

8. Iraq is about oil, yet as an American, you supported the invasion on the basis of terrorism? That makes no sense.

9. The Gulf War was acceptable because Iraq was actively invading another country. I didn't see Iraq come to the US and try to invade you guys this time around.

10. I completely agree that another terrorist strike is either imminent or in the works against the US. However, current actions do nothing but perpetuate such attacks. Kill as many Iraqis as you want, but that's not the answer.
 

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yennut said:
What is wrong with my tone or my attitude? Confidence and being outspoken breeds success. As our President George W. Bush so eloquently said "In Texas we call my swagger, walking." When you are the best why should you try to hide it. Is it something to be ashamed of?
Remove the cockiness. American are all about democracy and the free world. Practice what you preach. American slums are the worst in the world. The worst part for me is that I am not White. I am something other than white, and the treatment I get when I go to or come from the US is absolutely disgusting.

I am not saying everything is bad, but people like your adored president is what ruins it. Clinton was great. As a Canadian I was happy to say that we had a great neighboring country when Clinton was around. Now, I am embarassed to call US my neighbor.
 
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Well, you've managed to enlist Wson in your cause. Congrats.

1) ASre protected by the U.S. military 24-7-365. Free of charge.

2) Export 85% of all goods into america which accounts for over half their trade.

3) Undoubtedly profit handsomely from our pop culture. That includes favorite movies, shows, clothers, music etc.

4) Call us "bullies" whenever a trade dispute occurs.

5) The laughable excuse that "they hate the Bush administration" but not U.S. americans or america in general. Yeah right. Anything and everything in Canada that is even remotely pro-american (eg. Conservative Party, National Post, etc.) is viewed with contempt.

6) It's not anti-american it's "Canadian Soverignty"

7) A gov't funded "news source" at a rate of 1 billion a year of tax dollars dedicated to anti-americanism and anti-semitism. The CBC of course.

8) Iraq is all about Oil. Washington put Saddam into power (Not true) Rather the truth is that we sided with him vs Iran back in 1983 because of Iraq 's oil
Other countries that did so were France, Russia, China, And West Germany.

9) The 1991 Gulf War is okay because Canada was involved.

10) Finally we are all brainwashed puppets who buy into Bush's scare tactics that another terror strike is imminent. Uh and we're supposed to believe it's not? Sadly Canada isn't the first or last to suggest this rather it was local drunk Senator Ted Kennedy who said that Bush was capitalizing on 9-11 to further his political agenda.

1) Protected from whom? The last nation to invade our country was - any guesses? You seem to forget - we don't have communists and terrorist under every bed up here.

2) Granted. Who cares?

3) Define "profit hansomely". For every John Coltrane and Citizen Kane, there's three Ashlee Simpsons and 10 Catwomans....

4) No, no, it's just that's were confused. You don't want our unsafe meat but you stumble over yourselves to buy our unsafe drugs. If you were consistent bullies, we'd be okay with that.

5) If you knew anything about the history of the Reform-Alliance-Conservative-P.Diddy Party, or Conrad Black, or the Aspers, you'd know why we treat these "pro-American" institutions with contempt.

6) And your point would be?

7) LOL CBC COMMUNIST BROADCASTING CORPORATION LOL LOL MOOREON

8) This is on topic, how?

9) It sure was. You never would have won that war without generous helpings of Tim Horton's coffee. At least you admit you supported a brutal dictator through the 80's for "Iraq 's oil" - we'll align you with reality yet!

10) This is on topic, why?

And does anybody know what a "citizenery" is? Is it like a pantry with a bunch of citizens in it?
 

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Dorm201 said:
Let's see, breaking down your arguments:

1. How are we protected by the US military? Who's invading North America? You do realize that the only reason why anyone would invade Canada is to be a staging ground for attacking the US? If the US weren't viewed as a threat to world peace, then Canada would never be in danger.
Well said, as a matter of fact, Canada is the only thing that stands in the way of another country launching an attack on the US. Because of approach to world politics, we have covered the American "hiney" for a while.

On the side, Canada should put an auction up to see how much money they will get.....the sale would be "Right to get at US through Canada"....ok, that was a bad joke...but I hope you got the general idea.
 
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