Are people running out of money?

[stinkynuts]

I just saw an Asian service provider, and she told me that things are very slow compared to last year. Apparently, she said, people are running out of money and can’t afford to hobby.

How are people doing financially? I am doing OK, since the stock market is up a lot however, I think most people are not fully invested.

 

[Ponderling]

Financially independent.
But got that way by knowing not to spend up to
Let alone spend past
Your after tax and RRSP and TFSA max contribution net income number.

And that was after the mortgage was paid off early.

 

[HungSowel]

Investments are doing ok, but business is doing badly since most of my sales are to the US.

Could be alot better, could be alot worse. It is what it is.

 

[seanzo]

I'm getting by fine but my cutting back on escorts has less to do with money and more to do with the fact that I live in an area that has no good locals and touring escorts are few and far between.

 

[HungSowel]

To me traffic is as big of a limitation as money. It takes forever to go anywhere, the combination of higher prices and brutal traffic is an errection killer.

 

[keyakizaka46fan]

Honestly I don't know how regulars can afford the hobby, are they all rich? I don't see how any middle class or below person can afford to go multiple times a month.

 

[OntGuy2010]

Another angle I very much believe, is that very much like anything else - the cost has increased while quality decreased! I have seen many mentions of this in posts and DM's - so the "absolute" calculation in tougher because of the money aspect, but the "relative" calculation is also tougher because of the quality!

I have started using agencies regularly only this year, and booked with independents for about 2 years before that but not frequently at all. So beginning of this year was so "excited" - wow so many choices, appointment can be set up in less than 15 mins by text, etc. Now doing research a lot more / "calculating" a lot more / reduced the max cut-off rate I am even willing to pay twice already $50 each time / and so on.

 

[Robert Mugabe]

Running out of interest. Used to be exciting when Craigslist suddenly showed what they were about. stumbled on it by accident. Kid in a candy store experience. That is all gone. Can't get excited about this hobby anymore. Can't pretend anymore to somebody who can't pretend anymore. I think I am done.

 

[stinkynuts]

Financially independent.
But got that way by knowing not to spend up to
Let alone spend past
Your after tax and RRSP and TFSA max contribution net income number.

And that was after the mortgage was paid off early.

At 50, I finally got to that point. Own a house in Edmonton, with a large amout in investements. However, it took A LOT to get here. I was working the lowest paying and worst jobs

Running out of interest. Used to be exciting when Craigslist suddenly showed what they were about. stumbled on it by accident. Kid in a candy store experience. That is all gone. Can't get excited about this hobby anymore. Can't pretend anymore to somebody who can't pretend anymore. I think I am done.

I know the feeling too well.

Worst is when you finally meet an attractive girl, and the moment you try to kiss her on the lips, she either rejects you immediately or provides a very brief kiss and moves on. No passion, interest, or chemistry from her. It's the moment I realize I won't be able to get into the session and won't cum. From there it's usually the girl giving you a one minute bj, and then trying to get you to cum and get you out the door. For $300. Not worth it.

Also, there doesn't seem to be any hot young girls anymore.

 

[Intrinsic]

It's not that shocking is it?

Shit is getting expensive.
Turmoil and uncertainty.

I've cut back and one girl told me she is thinking about dropping her rates soon because she's noticed the money isn't flowing like it did a few years ago.

 

[Trevor Wong]

Honestly I don't know how regulars can afford the hobby, are they all rich? I don't see how any middle class or below person can afford to go multiple times a month.

Probably can afford to go once a month, at the most.

 

[OntGuy2010]

Worst is when you finally meet an attractive girl, and the moment you try to kiss her on the lips, she either rejects you immediately or provides a very brief kiss and moves on. No passion, interest, or chemistry from her. It's the moment I realize I won't be able to get into the session and won't cum. From there it's usually the girl giving you a one minute bj, and then trying to get you to cum and get you out the door. For $300. Not worth it.

Also, there doesn't seem to be any hot young girls anymore.

To me service itself is "not bad", but as I mentioned I don't have a lot of hobby experience overall and am pretty easy to please anyway LOL What I am finding is that very hot providers of course are more expensive and can easily have "hot girl" attitudes, and on the opposite end of the spectrum many times left wondering if I should have paid money to begin with Trying to find the "middle ground" which of course is not easy, tricky like almost everything else.

 

[Trevor Wong]

It seems that all "the hot" SP's who really excite me are $400-$500/hr. It seems I have champagne taste on a beer budget.

 

[Liquidity]

A few things. Quality in service providers is down across the board. Even the remaining stunners have responded by becoming more restrictive, colder, and mechanical while roughly maintaining the same price point.

Second, I suspect a lot of the boom in the industry were johns using their house as an ATM while prices rocketed every year. That game has slowed down dramatically over the past year or so, and banks are becoming more stringent with the HELOCs and those who don’t have the high incomes to justify large balances.

Traffic is a huge one. Even a couple of years ago, I didn’t mind travelling across the GTA and putting on a podcast to kill the time. But now? Unbearable. And what compounds it is that you’re often taking a chance on an unknown, so if she flakes or ghosts, that’s a whole evening gone.

So, it’s generally a mix of hard economic realities converging with congestion that is getting obscene even by historic Toronto standards.

 

[ricsha1990]

Honestly if I just stopped spending so much money on takeout and skip/ubereats/doordash that would translate into multiple hours of bookings a month. That shit is a money sink. I really need to stop with that.

 

[stinkynuts]

Honestly if I just stopped spending so much money on takeout and skip/ubereats/doordash that would translate into multiple hours of bookings a month. That shit is a money sink. I really need to stop with that.

I usually order when they have those 30-50% off deals and am really craving something but am too tired or sick to go out or make it myself. It’s totally worth it then, but otherwise no.

 

[Liquidity]

Worst is when you finally meet an attractive girl, and the moment you try to kiss her on the lips, she either rejects you immediately or provides a very brief kiss and moves on. No passion, interest, or chemistry from her. It's the moment I realize I won't be able to get into the session and won't cum. From there it's usually the girl giving you a one minute bj, and then trying to get you to cum and get you out the door. For $300. Not worth it.

Agencies are the only place you can realistically get dfk with a hottie these days.

Also, there doesn't seem to be any hot young girls anymore.

One would think as the real economy becomes increasingly untenable for the median person, more attractive young girls would consider the good and consistent money they could make from this. But, rather the opposite is happening. And it’s not just this, btw. Conventional porn has no major stunners anymore. There’s simply no girl on the level of say Samantha Saint who entered the industry in the past 5 years. Sex work and porn appear to be dying.

 

[Robert Mugabe]

Agencies are the only place you can realistically get dfk with a hottie these days.

One would think as the real economy becomes increasingly untenable for the median person, more attractive young girls would consider the good and consistent money they could make from this. But, rather the opposite is happening. And it’s not just this, btw. Conventional porn has no major stunners anymore. There’s simply no girl on the level of say Samantha Saint who entered the industry in the past 5 years. Sex work and porn appear to be dying.

In their defense. It flies in the face of reality that women can actually do sex work for a living. Seems a tall order to do something you can barely stand with strangers who you cannot stand. I honestly don't know how they can do it. In the past I had a couple of long term connections with a couple of women with whom I clicked and they genuinely liked me, but that seems like a high and unlikely expectation generally. seems to rank as a disgusting job.

 

[K Douglas]

I'm doing ok but definitely inflation has eaten into my budget so my pooning visits have been limited to 1 or 2 a month. Car insurance premiums are way up. I just had to fork out $1,500 for a new laptop and about $3,000 for healthcare. My office rent is going up for the 1st time in 3 years as well not bad though only 4.5%. Still it all adds up.

 

[Butler1000]

In decent shape. About to get a decent chunk of cash from a childless relative. Bye bye mortgage, last of debt(had to take some on for house repairs) and I nice sized chunk left over for investment. Means my personal disposable income will go up a bit.

But honestly I'm also seeing a lack of service quality. I think the pandemic, OF, has changed the game for now. A good recession could change things again.