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Asking College Students if They Know Why They are Protesting

Kautilya

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you need to know the history in order to make an informed decision
Palestinians have been launching rockets into Israel with the intent to kill jews for decades (1970s +)
And if you knew anything at all about the rocket attacks on Israel, you'd know that the rocket attacks on Israel started in 2001. Not the 1970s. You'd also now that Hamas itself was formed in late 1987, and not the 1970s.

So while arrogantly mansplaining to @missarielle111 about making an informed decision, you have unwittingly displayed your lack of knowledge on this subject! 😂
I guess you're not missing the point... you don't GET the point...strength in numbers although quite viable also need to have merit how much of those numbers really know what they stand for...just showing up oblivious to what you're fighting for...well, you're not really fighting for something....just a blank filler to make it look like there's really "strength" when there's really NONE...
How do you know how many in those student protests actually know the demands of the organizers, and how many do not? You think most dont know because of a video that Oracle posted? With cherry picked responses to push a narrative? Also as I mentioned there are a multitude of reasons for protestors joining a protests and all of those are valid reasons.

I mean you comment on these threads for 7 months but you know absolutely nothing about the Israel Palestine history! You know, you dont know. You know that I know that you dont know and yet we engage! So protestors can very well join a protest even if they are not able to clearly articulate the demands of the organizers.
no no
you stated

a plain, blunt and all encompassing statement

questions are not defined by the political system of a country
binary questions are asked every day in a democracy, several examples have been provided


translation: Please stop cornering Kautilya using Kautilya's own words

your opinions ae worthless if you can not defend them without your pretzel/ bullshit logic
pretzel/ bullshit logic which you can not keep track of

protestors who are uninformed about the cause , diminish the value of the cause
paid protestors who are uninformed about the cause are defrauding the public for monetary gain
there is likely not a law against this as law makers could not have conceived anyone being so irresponsible
the source of the funds may be a different story
You put the question to me and asked me to choose between A and B, and defined it as binary. I said there are no binary questions in a democracy in the context of your response, so I will not allow, any moving of goal posts on this, to include questions on a tax form and other examples that fail a basic sanity check, just because they suit the bullshit that you are spewing.

We were talking about protestors and political opinions, and there are a multitude of opinions and causes for someone joining a protest.

A student protest, organized, in this case to demand transparency and divestment as its primary goals, can still have participants who join in because - they are muslim and are against genocide, or because they are friends and want to show solidarity. All of those are valid reasons to attend a protest and their opinions matter.
wrong
answer no and your testimony is worthless and prohibited
answer no and you will be audited, fined and possibly jailed
This is a non-response.
i think we have uncovered the root of your problem

you do not distinguish between "right" or "wrong" since they, according to you have the same value

i.e. self justification for any bullshit you post

you are not very bright
Yes, when it comes to opinions, especially political opinions, there are no "rights" and "wrongs". You have your opinion. Others have theirs.
They both have value in determining whether their opinion is valid or not.

Once it is determined that an opinion is NOT valid, then it no longer has value.
And who appointed you as the authority for determining what opinions are valid and what aren't? Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one. What you consider invalid, is just your opinion and is not the universal truth. Hence, the protestor is allowed to have an opinion you consider wrong, or unjustified, or invalid, and still voice their opinion. If you feel so strongly about it, join a counter protest.
Palestinians have been launching rockets into Israel with the intent to kill jews for decades (1970s +)
@Phil C. McNasty @richaceg

Here is an example for you guys, that I wanted to show about "default narratives", that I was talking about in the other thread.

"Palestinians have been launching rockets" - No. Palestinians are just regular people. Hamas launch rockets.

So the statement should have been "Hamas has been launching rockets into Israel with the intent to kill jews for decades (since 2001) (1970s+) ".

This is just one example. JohnLarue is not alone in using such words. Western media, politicians and everyone else uses such words flippantly. Words have meaning. They create opinions and put ideas in your head without even you realizing it. And that leads to implicit biases.

Listen to AOC's interview with Mehdi, and she illustrates a few more.
if you can’t see the biased and assume that he likely edited out the comments of people who actually knew what they were saying out then you need to reassess your critical thinking skills.
You are 100% right Arielle. Ignore JohnLarue. He will double down and triple down and quadruple down on his own ignorance!
Defending the notion that participants in a protest need not be informed on what they are protesting and retain credibility is ludicrous...
Let me ask you something Oracle. Since you know, what the demands of the protestors are, and in your opinion better than the protestors themselves, am I to take it that you now support the protestors cause? Because am pretty sure you don't and am pretty sure you consider it ridiculous regardless. So what difference does it make for you why they protest? You are going to disagree regardless and your criticism is not going to be any different!
our current government invited a real Nazi into the House of Commons and gave him a standing ovation
Touche'.
 
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Kautilya

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So only those with media training are allowed to be interviewed...
Those were appropriate and intelligent responses that show you how informed and knowledgeable the protestors are. That is the way to deal with reporters who abruptly stick a mic in our face.

Forget a protest, if some reporter got up in my face for anything, my only response will be "No comment". These people will ask you a question, post an edited clip on social media for views and make you look stupid.

The protestors are there to show support, not answer media questions and if you have questions go through proper channels and ask the media liaison who is there to handle such questions.

Sorry, Oracle. This one isn't conveying the message you want it to.
 

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I really wish Jews and other companies would pull their donations and funding out of these schools to show these spoiled idiots how this all really works.
 
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I really wish Jews and other companies would pull their donations and funding out of these schools to show these spoiled idiots how this all really works.
Bruh, i can't believe how stupid these fucking kids are.
 
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JohnLarue

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???

you said all that is needed to know in post 101
even children are taught to distinguish between right and wrong
but this does not apply to you at your convivence i.e. bullshit artist

It has the exact same "value" as someone who is "right" or factually correct.
i think we have uncovered the root of your problem

you do not distinguish between "right" or "wrong" since they, according to you have the same value

i.e. self justification for any bullshit you post

you are not very bright
 

Kautilya

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you said all that is needed to know in post 101
even children are taught to distinguish between right and wrong
but this does not apply to you at your convivence i.e. bullshit artist


i think we have uncovered the root of your problem

you do not distinguish between "right" or "wrong" since they, according to you have the same value

i.e. self justification for any bullshit you post

you are not very bright
The Touche was to Juan's post.

The rest is your usual copy paste repeats.
 

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I really wish Jews and other companies would pull their donations and funding out of these schools to show these spoiled idiots how this all really works.
I wish they stopped Qatar’s and other pro terror money flowing in
 

JohnLarue

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The Touche was to Juan's post.

The rest is your usual copy paste repeats.
you said all that is needed to know in post 101

It has the exact same "value" as someone who is "right" or factually correct.

even children are taught to distinguish between right and wrong
but this does not apply to you at your convivence i.e. bullshit artist
any plans to grow up ?
 

Kautilya

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JohnLarue

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Being able to distinguish is not the same as value.
you said all that is needed to know in post 101
It has the exact same "value" as someone who is "right" or factually correct.


even children are taught to distinguish between right and wrong
but this does not apply to you at your convivence i.e. bullshit artist
any plans to grow up ?
 

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even children are taught to distinguish between right and wrong
but this does not apply to you at your convivence i.e. bullshit artist
any plans to grow up ?
Don't forget this is the same crowd that thinks gender is a social construct....Wonder how that would fly in Gaza?
 

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Remember, the whole purpose of public protest is to COMMUNICATE something to the public, institutions, and to government. If you are incapable of that, you are incapable of protesting.
But Kautilya claims that the point of protest is to inconvenience people and make them feel uncomfortable/intimidated. Are you disagreeing with him?
 
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