Asking College Students if They Know Why They are Protesting

[Kautilya]

what is the value of a "wrong" view ?

you think you can talk your way out of stepping in your own bullshit
what is defiantly worthless is your disingenuous views / opinions

It has the exact same "value" as someone who is "right" or factually correct. That is why we have dialog and heated debates in a democracy. That is why we fact check people and correct them, like I usually do with you, when they are wrong, like you are usually on any topic.

Therefore to even determine that someone is wrong you need to take what they say seriously and consider what they say. But the moment you consider them, and respond to them you have attached value to their claim or opinion. Even if you put someone on ignore on TERB you do so because they annoy you. Again you have considered what they said and attached a measure of value to what they said, which is why it annoys you.

This is something you can't seem to wrap your head around. Maybe because it involves not having an argument in your own head?

 

[JohnLarue]

That has nothing to do with democracies or political opinions. Your example is both inappropriate and fails a sanity check.

no no
you stated

There are no binary questions in a democracy.

a plain, blunt and all encompassing statement

questions are not defined by the political system of a country
binary questions are asked every day in a democracy, several examples have been provided

Your example is both inappropriate and fails a sanity check.

translation: Please stop cornering Kautilya using Kautilya's own words

your opinions ae worthless if you can not defend them without your pretzel/ bullshit logic
pretzel/ bullshit logic which you can not keep track of

protestors who are uninformed about the cause , diminish the value of the cause
paid protestors who are uninformed about the cause are defrauding the public for monetary gain
there is likely not a law against this as law makers could not have conceived anyone being so irresponsible
the source of the funds may be a different story

 

[JohnLarue]

It has the exact same "value" as someone who is "right" or factually correct.

wrong

3 if giving testimony in court
“Do you Swear that the evidence you shall give the Court shall be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth."
yes or
no

answer no and your testimony is worthless and prohibited

2. is the information in your tax return truthful ?
yes or
no

answer no and you will be audited, fined and possibly jailed

 

[JohnLarue]

It has the exact same "value" as someone who is "right" or factually correct.

i think we have uncovered the root of your problem

you do not distinguish between "right" or "wrong" since they, according to you have the same value

i.e. self justification for any bullshit you post

you are not very bright

 

[missarielle111]

if you can’t see the biased and assume that he likely edited out the comments of people who actually knew what they were saying out then you need to reassess your critical thinking skills.

 

[silentkisser]

Yes '' So why are you here?'' is such a gotcha style question, ,lol.

Do you think if they said anything, the dude wouldn't pester them with follow up questions? I'm sure everyone attends these types of things for different reasons. Some are very well informed, others, not so much. But, in situations like this, it is advisable to have spokespeople explain what is going on. Because you know that any right-wing media outlet will find the least informed person willing to speak, and try to frame it like the entire crowd is that dumb. That's just the reality. Now, I'm sure if this dude kept asking, he'll find someone who'll probably say something like Hamas is a great organization fighting for peace, or jews control the media, or some other stupid shit. It'll be anything they can find to discredit or diminish the protesters. You know it and I know it. So, stop pretending that isn't what this dude was trying to do.

 

[richaceg]

if you can’t see the biased and assume that he likely edited out the comments of people who actually knew what they were saying out then you need to reassess your critical thinking skills.

Looks like someone missed the point...video is showing that there are many students who don't know what they are protesting about...they are "fillers" to make it look like a big protest when it's not...

 

[missarielle111]

Looks like someone missed the point...video is showing that there are many students who don't know what they are protesting about...they are "fillers" to make it look like a big protest when it's not...

Go on @wearthepeace @palestinianmartyrs @alhelou.ly @wissamgaza you don’t need to know the history to know Israel is wrong and they are committing acts of terrorism against the Palestinians, all you need is a social media account. I can tell you that strength is in numbers at these protests and while the responses of these people are totally stupid, they are doing a good thing for the cause by just showing up.

 

[shack]

It has the exact same "value" as someone who is "right" or factually correct.

They both have value in determining whether their opinion is valid or not.

Once it is determined that an opinion is NOT valid, then it no longer has value.

 

[shack]

Go on @wearthepeace @palestinianmartyrs @alhelou.ly @wissamgaza you don’t need to know the history to know Israel is wrong and they are committing acts of terrorism against the Palestinians, all you need is a social media account. I can tell you that strength is in numbers at these protests and while the responses of these people are totally stupid, they are doing a good thing for the cause by just showing up.

Somebody who shows up for altruistic reasons has much more integrity than someone who needs coercion to do so. And once it's been shown that so many had to be coerced the strength in numbers viewpoint goes out the window.

 

[The Oracle]

protestors who are uninformed about the cause , diminish the value of the cause
paid protestors who are uninformed about the cause are defrauding the public for monetary gain
there is likely not a law against this as law makers could not have conceived anyone being so irresponsible
the source of the funds may be a different story

Defending the notion that participants in a protest need not be informed on what they are protesting and retain credibility is ludicrous...

 

[Dutch Oven]

if you can’t see the biased and assume that he likely edited out the comments of people who actually knew what they were saying out then you need to reassess your critical thinking skills.

Here's some critical thinking for you. The point of these interviews is to show that MANY people at these protests cannot articulate, and perhaps don't even know, what they are protesting about. It gives the public a better sense of the ACTUAL strength of the sentiments in support of Hamas. Remember, the whole purpose of public protest is to COMMUNICATE something to the public, institutions, and to government. If you are incapable of that, you are incapable of protesting.

In this context, the "strength in numbers" the organizers want to show is no more convincing than if they had all shown up with their cats and dogs! (Maybe I shouldn't be giving them any ideas).

 

[richaceg]

Go on @wearthepeace @palestinianmartyrs @alhelou.ly @wissamgaza you don’t need to know the history to know Israel is wrong and they are committing acts of terrorism against the Palestinians, all you need is a social media account. I can tell you that strength is in numbers at these protests and while the responses of these people are totally stupid, they are doing a good thing for the cause by just showing up.

I guess you're not missing the point... you don't GET the point...strength in numbers although quite viable also need to have merit how much of those numbers really know what they stand for...just showing up oblivious to what you're fighting for...well, you're not really fighting for something....just a blank filler to make it look like there's really "strength" when there's really NONE...

 

[JohnLarue]

Go on @wearthepeace @palestinianmartyrs @alhelou.ly @wissamgaza you don’t need to know the history to know Israel is wrong and they are committing acts of terrorism against the Palestinians, all you need is a social media account.

you need to know the history in order to make an informed decision
Palestinians have been launching rockets into Israel with the intent to kill jews for decades (1970s +)

what do you think the Americans would do if their citizens were killed by rockets from Canada or Mexico for decades?
layer on the barbaric oct 7th attacks, rapes and kidnappings
gee, what could go wrong ?

I can tell you that strength is in numbers at these protests and while the responses of these people are totally stupid, they are doing a good thing for the cause by just showing up.

mob rule overrides intelligent informed decision making ?

support from uniformed blithering idiots undermines any cause

 

[JohnLarue]

Here's some critical thinking for you. The point of these interviews is to show that MANY people at these protests cannot articulate, and perhaps don't even know, what they are protesting about. It gives the public a better sense of the ACTUAL strength of the sentiments in support of Hamas. Remember, the whole purpose of public protest is to COMMUNICATE something to the public, institutions, and to government. If you are incapable of that, you are incapable of protesting.

it is also an attempt to deliberately mislead the public about the ACTUAL strength of the sentiments in support of Hamas.
if your cause needs to resort to deceit , it is not worthy of any support

In this context, the "strength in numbers" the organizers want to show is no more convincing than if they had all shown up with their cats and dogs! (Maybe I shouldn't be giving them any ideas).

you might be too late
what ever cause these barking mad lunatics are supporting , they will not win me over

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[JohnLarue]

Do you think if they said anything, the dude wouldn't pester them with follow up questions? I'm sure everyone attends these types of things for different reasons. Some are very well informed, others, not so much. But, in situations like this, it is advisable to have spokespeople explain what is going on.

spokesperson ? do you mean the one handing out $100 bills for a couple of hours of shouting slogans

Because you know that any right-wing media outlet will find the least informed person willing to speak, and try to frame it like the entire crowd is that dumb.

it looked more like a futile effort to actually find someone to intelligently communicate the cause
he asked a lot of people,

That's just the reality. Now, I'm sure if this dude kept asking, he'll find someone who'll probably say something like Hamas is a great organization fighting for peace, or jews control the media, or some other stupid shit. It'll be anything they can find to discredit or diminish the protesters. You know it and I know it. So, stop pretending that isn't what this dude was trying to do.

that is 100% pure speculation on your part
So, stop pretending that there is not something very strange about these protests

 

[Frankfooter]

So, with Al-Jizz being banned in Saudi Arabia, you are now claiming that SA is a Zionist state. Looney Tunes.

What a stupid comment, hammy.

You seem to be bragging that Israel has as much press freedom as Saudi Arabia.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1787880787297407458

 

[Frankfooter]

wrong



answer no and your testimony is worthless and prohibited



answer no and you will be audited, fined and possibly jailed

Right wingers are always trying to tell left wingers their views are prohibited.
Only now they back zionists doing it with bombs, killing women and children and banning the press so they don't see it.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1787879891771232465

 

[Frankfooter]

you need to know the history in order to make an informed decision
Palestinians have been launching rockets into Israel with the intent to kill jews for decades (1970s +)

Look, yet another subject where you have no clue but think you are expert!
Israel has been occupying Palestine for 75 years.
An occupation the UN says is illegal.

Israel is apartheid, the occupation illegal and are now committing genocide.
Why would you back this?
What is wrong with you?

is it age?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1787901388099371033

 

[JohnLarue]

if you can’t see the biased and assume that he likely edited out the comments of people who actually knew what they were saying out then you need to reassess your critical thinking skills.

if the dim wilted responses you did see do not make you question motivation to some degree , perhaps you need to reassess your critical thinking skills or your bias.