At party with hot girls who say "How do SPs get any business in contemporary Toronto"

Don Draper

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To answer your question the girls were white Canadian-born girls of Anglo-Saxon ethnicity. I am also white and of Anglo-Saxon ethnicity, so there was no cultural/ethnic divide or misunderstanding going on.
That's what I thought. Thank you for the confirmation. Their attitude and rhetoric is very much in keeping with Canadian born girls of Anglo-Saxon ethnicity.

I never suspected there was a divide or misunderstanding within your dialogue. It just proves further to the point made about Canadian women.
 

Sexaddicted

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when hot young civilian girls are up for free casual sex.
The following 2 points can increase your likelihood of getting some action:

A) You happen to be within that TOP 4-5% cream of the crop player guys that all the girls want. (This includes looks, height, style, overall demeanour, etc). There is such a thing as getting into a threshold of looks and appearance, where most hot civvy chicks will drop their panties for you on a dime. I know this because I have friends who fall in that category.

B) There is copious amounts of alcohol involved.
 

Aardvark154

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The following 2 points can increase your likelihood of getting some action:

A) You happen to be within that TOP 4-5% cream of the crop player guys that all the girls want. (This includes looks, height, style, overall demeanour, etc). There is such a thing as getting into a threshold of looks and appearance, where most hot civvy chicks will drop their panties for you on a dime. I know this because I have friends who fall in that category.

B) There is copious amounts of alcohol involved.
To which I'd add:

C) are within six years of their age.

D) Related to "A" are someone they recognize (other than from personal contact)
 

desert monk

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Absolutely brilliant writing!

You really should submit this to Now Magazine or to Eye Weekly to publish it.

It really needs to get wider distribution.

Not to mention it really is brilliant writing.

Send it to them and see if they will publish it.

If not, then post it in craigslist Rants and Raves and see if it gets to the Best of Craigslist.

You are just preaching to the choir here
agreed. Pretty much my experience with dating.
 

GG2

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That's pretty standard for civilian dating which includes dating civilians without knowing they're SPs. That hot 21 year old SP that Alex booked for 3pm behaves exactly the same way as the civilian girls in his story when she checks out of her SP work for the day. That 21 year old SP will suck you off, toss your salad, and gangbang you for $75/hh but once she's out in civilian world, she's not giving any guy any love. Every guy trying to hit on her has to take her out on dates (because she doesn't sleep on the first date), buy her things, whisper sweet nothings in her ear, tell funny jokes and exciting stories just to get near her panties (spending $1,000+ in time, money, effort - not knowing she's already fucking half the city for $150).

I used to know this ugly dude who was actually a really cool guy. He worked with this bombshell and he would always be the gentleman around her, trying to ask her out, yadda yadda. She's never give him the time of day. Then one day he walks into an MPA and to his surprise, she is one of the attendants. He was hooked. Went there all the time to get off on her. Eventually she stopped seeing him citing that it was just too strange to work with him in a mainstream job and then jack him off in her other job.

That's an MPA story. Substitute the MPA with an SP.

Knowing this, don't ever sweat a chick blowing you off. Bitches ain't shit.
 

drfunkstar

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Great story but it sounded like the perfect threesome opportunity. It sounded like the girls already had sex on the mind and probably wouldn't have brought it up if they didn't find you attractive. When they start to think about things and rationalize their own decisions, it's a perfect time to jump in and screw them up. Call them out on being indecisive. Any time a woman brings up sexual topics out of the blue to any man is the biggest open door there is. Sure they love to tease but in reality, they just want to get fucked. If the friend is starting to cock block, it's the perfect time to start hitting on the friend.
 

splattsplatt

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Absolutely brilliant writing!

"You really should submit this to Now Magazine or to Eye Weekly to publish it."

With all respect to rubmeister who may be the master of rub but confirms he is the master of rubbish when it comes to where to publish good writing. Now is a trash rag that is devoid of good writing (or politics) and EYE is the 'cool arm' of the notoriously bad Toronto Sun.

If the abovenoted rags represent the apex of good writing and/or publishing to the said MEISTER then my recommendation is that he reconsider and start with a visit to http://www.bookforum.com/ and do some real reading...
 

splattsplatt

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ERROR CORRECTION:
NOW is a trash rag that is devoid of good writing (or politics) and EYE is the 'cool arm' of the notoriously bad Toronto STAR.
 

alexmst

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Alexmst, that is one of the best stories I've read on TERB in some time!
Thanks, Aardvark154. It was a funny time at the bar that night for sure.
 

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I think others are far too flattering about your post, I don`t see the brilliance in it. In her eyes you were never a candidate for this casual sex, when you offered yourself up she scrambled to backtrack. With women that age, most guys 35 plus are invisible to them. Most guys on here are just bitter with women in general because they can`t get any.
 

CapitalGuy

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The following 2 points can increase your likelihood of getting some action:

A) You happen to be within that TOP 4-5% cream of the crop player guys that all the girls want. (This includes looks, height, style, overall demeanour, etc). There is such a thing as getting into a threshold of looks and appearance, where most hot civvy chicks will drop their panties for you on a dime. I know this because I have friends who fall in that category.

B) There is copious amounts of alcohol involved.
I agree. The young hotties at work who know how much I earn and see the power I yield at work on a day to day basis, hit on my 40-year old ass when the timing is right (ie. no one is watching). Their friends don't even look at me, even though I fit your description otherwise. They just think I'm a cute older guy, but.... yuck, he's like 40. But the ones who know.....

The MILFs at the office, especially the divorced ones, just lay it right on the table, even in front of each other. They know their clocks are ticking, and they know how many age-appropriate guys are duds.
 

alexmst

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I think others are far too flattering about your post, I don`t see the brilliance in it. In her eyes you were never a candidate for this casual sex, when you offered yourself up she scrambled to backtrack. With women that age, most guys 35 plus are invisible to them. Most guys on here are just bitter with women in general because they can`t get any.
OK, but young guys her age (21-22) are not the main customers of SPs in Toronto. So her point about why do guys pay for sex with SPs would have to have been directed towards guys for the most part older than 22.

Yes, we'd all been drinking and alcohol was certainly a factor, but I would hesitate to assume she was thinking about guys her own age. How many guys at 22 are regulars of $250 an hour SPs? Girls know the average age of clients is older than 25.

I wasn't trying to seriously pick her up - that is in part what makes it funny.

I'm not bitter. Girls provide me with much fun and amusement in life :)
 

CapitalGuy

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That's what I thought. Thank you for the confirmation. Their attitude and rhetoric is very much in keeping with Canadian born girls of Anglo-Saxon ethnicity. I never suspected there was a divide or misunderstanding within your dialogue. It just proves further to the point made about Canadian women.
When I was assigned to an eastern European country I won't name, a dirt poor one, about 10 years ago for nearly a year, the 20 year old ultra-hot local hires we employed explained it like this: they could marry the cute boy they go to school with, who has hard abs and cool hair and maybe knows how to dance, but that is taking a huge gamble. What if he turns out to be poor? Their kids would not have much hope for success if the boy wound up as a brick layer or a truck driver or a farmhand or even unemployed (remember, this is not Canada. In the armpit of eastern Europe those aren't unionized jobs that let a guy have a nice house and a boat and holidays and all the things and quality-of-life Canadian blue-collar workers can buy with their wages). Or, they could marry a reasonably attractive 40-something guy, already knowing what his income is, what kind of house he will give them, what kind of car he drives, if he turned out to be a drunk or if he is violent or fugly etc. They can look at him and his life, see how he turned out, and say "my kids can be living that life in a couple of years if I marry this guy now and start a family with him". So they married older guys. Win-win, even though it is a win based on a desire to escape poverty. My experiences in Western Europe have been similar, although not nearly as extreme. Women there are more open about why they will date one man and not another, and quite often (most often?) it is related to income, temperament, and yes looks of course, even if the age disparity thing isn't as extreme as in the east.

Is Asia similar??

So in the case of the Eastern Euro girls, its hunger that drives them to seek the male who has already proved he is alpha by being successful in his life. What makes a guy alpha at 20, is less important at 40. These girls seemed to know that more intuitively, or at a younger age anyhow, than our own lovelies do. In Canada, very few women worry about such basic needs. They may "marry up", but they are still marrying up from a position of relative comfort and security. They aren't marrying for food!! So they can be picky, and they can date the cute boy. Even if his coolness fades over time because he became a truck driver instead of a dentist, he will be able to afford a house and holidays in Mexico etc. So why fuck some icky old dentist when she can fuck the hot guy the same age as her?

No, they aren't all wired like that, and the example is a bit extreme, just to show the point. But the ones in the OP's story, clearly they are wired like that. They don't care about your money, because the 21 year old guy on the other side of them has enough money to meet their wants anyhow.
 

CapitalGuy

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Most guys on here are just bitter with women in general because they can`t get any.
You would be surprised at the cross section of pooners on here. Many do just fine, but simply want variety and ease from time to time, or don't have the time/energy to chase a 20 year old the old fashioned way.
 
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