Average pay per meet for SB

[GeeBee]

My only concern is a common trend, it seems , where the cash flow is steady but the interest to keep the sex declines over time. And that can happen anytime - thus the PPM.

That's why you're in a SB relationship. No matter how much you and the girl get along it is still a transactional relationship. If one of you looses interest and isn't keeping up with the deal then you move on. PPM is the way to go.

And yes to the single mom dynamic. For her it's a chance to have a bit of fun away from the responsibilities of family and get some extra income at the same time. When I resume the search of another SB that will be my focus.

 

[YourBookingAssistant]

My experience as well. In addition to the monthly donation the one I had in Madrid asked me to contribute to her apartment so she could be closer to me. Then her mobile phone so we could talk more. Then her car and her clothes and her gym membership, them her stylist. Then the worst she could not see me because she was ill then her mother was ill and then she had a family emergency.

Then while I as in Madrid and she could not see me as she was ill. I thought I would stop by her place to bring her soup. I was paying for the place. I knock and a young Spaniard answers her door. Do not need to tell you I canceled her credit card I was paying. I cut off her payment for her apartment, her car lease, her allowance, and she decided to call me back telling me the young man was her bother.

Fool me once ok but fooling me twice. I have stayed away from these arrangements. I pay as I go. Yes I have had escorts who steal from me or take my money and run. But I might step in shit once I am not stepping into it twice.

Not the first time I got used and won't be last. But I tend to stay away once burnt. For me it is pay as I go. Just like I rarely prepay a provider.

That is my experience with sugar babies or monthly arrangements. Not to say I have not had a few that work out. Kimberly did work out for years but this was way before Sugar Babes were around.

Wow, That's sad and unfortunate...

 

[GGGDickson]

Wow, That's sad and unfortunate...

Yea I am such an idiot! It was not as bad as the provider that I bought a house for so I could play house and pretend to have a family. It was fun while it lasted but like all rides they come to an end. My lawyer although not pleased, told me at least I never lost half my business. It was not 'common law' as I was paying her as we went. It was SB arrangement before SB were around. I guess if you are not careful a SB might be considered common law. All i know is my lawyer and my accountants keep me from going places I do not want to go.

I have done some pretty stupid things. All in chasing the thrill of "LOVE". You can learn more from my mistakes than my successes. I have had more good than bad. But I learned long ago I enjoy the first adventures but I hate the endings.

Oh well it is the moment that matters. Just enjoy the moment. If you read my adventures with Lauren Ross you will get the idea.

You have any fantasies you might enjoy living out?

 

[rogerdodger]

Yea I am such an idiot! It was not as bad as the provider that I bought a house for so I could play house and pretend to have a family. It was fun while it lasted but like all rides they come to an end. My lawyer although not pleased, told me at least I never lost half my business. It was not 'common law' as I was paying her as we went. It was SB arrangement before SB were around. I guess if you are not careful a SB might be considered common law. All i know is my lawyer and my accountants keep me from going places I do not want to go.

I have done some pretty stupid things. All in chasing the thrill of "LOVE". You can learn more from my mistakes than my successes. I have had more good than bad. But I learned long ago I enjoy the first adventures but I hate the endings.

Oh well it is the moment that matters. Just enjoy the moment. If you read my adventures with Lauren Ross you will get the idea.

You have any fantasies you might enjoy living out?

Yes agreed I usually like the first adventures and the endings never seem to go well. In fact the gal I just mentioned, and that I was having so much fun with, has started to give off some different vibes. I'll have to see how that turns out.

 

[MuffDiver]

I kind of equate being a sugar daddy (defined in my eyes as regularly giving $x) almost identical to sending a deposit. Both require paying something up front in hopes of getting what you want later.

I will only do PPM. I actually tried WYP and even there you have women asking for an arrangement before ever meeting. SMFH! I don't even know if I like you yet, since we have not met. My other favorite is "What are you looking for?". Well, let's see. I bid $200 for a date and you accepted. I am looking to pay you $200 for the date you agreed to, then if we enjoy each other's company, then we can move to other discussions. Usually the next question is "Are you open to an arrangement?". Then I go to the block button and move on, cutting my losses at credits.

Likely deleting both my accounts soon, as too many women just seem to want to be added to the payroll before committing to what they will bring to the table. Imagine walking into a job interview and opening with salary demands, vacation and benefits. You'd be shown the door mid-sentence.

 

[GGGDickson]

I kind of equate being a sugar daddy (defined in my eyes as regularly giving $x) almost identical to sending a deposit. Both require paying something up front in hopes of getting what you want later.

I will only do PPM. I actually tried WYP and even there you have women asking for an arrangement before ever meeting. SMFH! I don't even know if I like you yet, since we have not met. My other favorite is "What are you looking for?". Well, let's see. I bid $200 for a date and you accepted. I am looking to pay you $200 for the date you agreed to, then if we enjoy each other's company, then we can move to other discussions. Usually the next question is "Are you open to an arrangement?". Then I go to the block button and move on, cutting my losses at credits.

Likely deleting both my accounts soon, as too many women just seem to want to be added to the payroll before committing to what they will bring to the table. Imagine walking into a job interview and opening with salary demands, vacation and benefits. You'd be shown the door mid-sentence.

I hear you MuffDiver. That is why I do the pay as I go. I will do a meet and greet to see if we are compatible. I might move to a hour or two meeting or a dinner date to see if we connect on multiple levels. Then an overnight to see if we could be together then travel dates. However I am not doing the pay by the month plus expenses, then plus plus plus. It just expands from there. A slippery slope.

So I would agree. But to each his own. Each arrangement is different just know it does not last forever.

 

[Akila Besos]

Not to hate but guys who use WYP like to be extremely cheap

I have had guys ask to pay 50 bucks to spend time together

Girls can deal when guys offer to pay like 150 for dinner and fun but anything lower seems and feels like a rip off and cheapskate

 

[MuffDiver]

Not to hate but guys who use WYP like to be extremely cheap

I have had guys ask to pay 50 bucks to spend time together

Girls can deal when guys offer to pay like 150 for dinner and fun but anything lower seems and feels like a rip off and cheapskate

I pay the agreed upon date fee and a nice dinner. Ruth's Chris with 2 bottles of wine and dessert was my last date. I also brought truffles home made by a family run chocolate shop. Hardly cheap. I made the effort.

I won't go into detail, as there is no point now, but I delivered from my side and she did not. Excluding the date fee, I spent close to $400.

You should not generalize. Not everyone on WYP is cheap. I estimate at best that 70% of women I make contact with on WYP jump right to negotiating a salary before ever meeting. It is possible to meet someone nice on there, but I am out of patience. WYP is a different type of LL. I'm on WYP, because I will not do SA.

 

[IMBob]

$50 to meet for coffee or ice cream seems plenty to me . That's all that is open now.

 

[Akila Besos]

I pay the agreed upon date fee and a nice dinner. Ruth's Chris with 2 bottles of wine and dessert was my last date. I also brought truffles home made by a family run chocolate shop. Hardly cheap. I made the effort.

I won't go into detail, as there is no point now, but I delivered from my side and she did not. Excluding the date fee, I spent close to $400.

You should not generalize. Not everyone on WYP is cheap. I estimate at best that 70% of women I make contact with on WYP jump right to negotiating a salary before ever meeting. It is possible to meet someone nice on there, but I am out of patience. WYP is a different type of LL. I'm on WYP, because I will not do SA.

Okie correct i shouldn't be generalizing that experience

Imo when i was meeting someone i never asked for money outright or upfront

For me i mainly meet to see of we vibe or not
Then usually the second time is when i would get whatever amount it was.

 

[MuffDiver]

Okie correct i shouldn't be generalizing that experience

Imo when i was meeting someone i never asked for money outright or upfront

For me i mainly meet to see of we vibe or not
Then usually the second time is when i would get whatever amount it was.

I think I will enforce that simple first meet going forward. We had connected well on videochat, a phone call and texting, so I felt we were good. Oh well!

 

[Akila Besos]

I think I will enforce that simple first meet going forward. We had connected well on videochat, a phone call and texting, so I felt we were good. Oh well!

It happens
I just don't know how you guys are able to meet up with SB and whatnot


Or if she does ask for money upfront haha give 30$ for a Starbucks

 

[rogerdodger]

After a couple of days it seems I've run into a situation where, at first everything was going well with my current SB until I find out she's financially strapped way more than I thought. After having bought her a few things for her house last week , she asked for an "emergency" donation up front to cover a mortgage payment as there was evidently not enough $ to cover what was coming due. I caved and fronted her well over $1000 . She gladly accepted . Well wouldn't you know, 2 days later her schedule suddenly filled up when I tried to book a get together the day before her scheduled weekend away visiting family. Not entirely her fault as I had other things going on as well. So not the best outcome but I understand that shit happens. So after the weekend she returns and we had agreed to a hotel meet ( we both have kids still living at home ) but then other "things" came up on her schedule. I waited a couple of days to get a final confirmation and at the last minute she bailed. It was a good thing I didn't book the hotel as I would have lost the deposit.. Frustrating as hell. It's looking like the trend of more money outside of PPM and less interest in sex. When I mentioned this pattern had a limited timeline she threw a fit ( via text ). I had the wrong attitude, made all the mistakes and accusing me of trying to control her. Probably the beginning of the end. And it was going so nicely.

 

[ScrubsFan]

After a couple of days it seems I've run into a situation where, at first everything was going well with my current SB until I find out she's financially strapped way more than I thought. After having bought her a few things for her house last week , she asked for an "emergency" donation up front to cover a mortgage payment as there was evidently not enough $ to cover what was coming due. I caved and fronted her well over $1000 . She gladly accepted . Well wouldn't you know, 2 days later her schedule suddenly filled up when I tried to book a get together the day before her scheduled weekend away visiting family. Not entirely her fault as I had other things going on as well. So not the best outcome but I understand that shit happens. So after the weekend she returns and we had agreed to a hotel meet ( we both have kids still living at home ) but then other "things" came up on her schedule. I waited a couple of days to get a final confirmation and at the last minute she bailed. It was a good thing I didn't book the hotel as I would have lost the deposit.. Frustrating as hell. It's looking like the trend of more money outside of PPM and less interest in sex. When I mentioned this pattern had a limited timeline she threw a fit ( via text ). I had the wrong attitude, made all the mistakes and accusing me of trying to control her. Probably the beginning of the end. And it was going so nicely.

That is why the biggest mistake people make is paying upfront for something they haven't recieved yet. Every legit SB I've been with, we agree on a price beforehand. We hang out they don't even ask for it. Like I had to remind them that I had to etransf at the end of our time or they just ask it before you/they leave. Anyone asking for anything upfront without us ever even meeting is a hard pass for me and they usually get blocked as I'd rather take my chances on helping the 42 junk mails from the Nigerian prince in my inbox lol.

 

[GGGDickson]

After a couple of days it seems I've run into a situation where, at first everything was going well with my current SB until I find out she's financially strapped way more than I thought. After having bought her a few things for her house last week , she asked for an "emergency" donation up front to cover a mortgage payment as there was evidently not enough $ to cover what was coming due. I caved and fronted her well over $1000 . She gladly accepted . Well wouldn't you know, 2 days later her schedule suddenly filled up when I tried to book a get together the day before her scheduled weekend away visiting family. Not entirely her fault as I had other things going on as well. So not the best outcome but I understand that shit happens. So after the weekend she returns and we had agreed to a hotel meet ( we both have kids still living at home ) but then other "things" came up on her schedule. I waited a couple of days to get a final confirmation and at the last minute she bailed. It was a good thing I didn't book the hotel as I would have lost the deposit.. Frustrating as hell. It's looking like the trend of more money outside of PPM and less interest in sex. When I mentioned this pattern had a limited timeline she threw a fit ( via text ). I had the wrong attitude, made all the mistakes and accusing me of trying to control her. Probably the beginning of the end. And it was going so nicely.

Damn sound like Madrid all over again. Been down that road too many times. It is not the beginning, it is the end! Prolonging it will just make it worst. Did you read my last meeting with Ms. Ross in Vancouver. Then there was April in Toronto. Then my SB in Madrid who was either sick or her family was sick, or she had a friend over. Then of course there was Catherine where I have dropping over $100,000 another client was paying her not to see me. So many examples. Cut and run.

 

[ScrubsFan]

Damn sound like Madrid all over again. Been down that road too many times. It is not the beginning, it is the end! Prolonging it will just make it worst. Did you read my last meeting with Ms. Ross in Vancouver. Then there was April in Toronto. Then my SB in Madrid who was either sick or her family was sick, or she had a friend over. Then of course there was Catherine where I have dropping over $100,000 another client was paying her not to see me. So many examples. Cut and run.

PPM is the way to go. Chicks like these know how to play you which is how they get away by getting the big bucks lol. Stuck with ppm and honestly most stress free arrangement as both parties have equal power. Where if you give a "monthly allowance", you may start off strong but the second you get comfy and attached they know they're getting paid either way so why bother putting any effort?

 

[GGGDickson]

PPM is the way to go. Chicks like these know how to play you which is how they get away by getting the big bucks lol. Stuck with ppm and honestly most stress free arrangement as both parties have equal power. Where if you give a "monthly allowance", you may start off strong but the second you get comfy and attached they know they're getting paid either way so why bother putting any effort?

Totally agree. My provider that I bought a house with in Montreal for her and her two young boys. Was the fun at first until her EX showed up and the nightmare was painful. I had another in Toronto who got beat up by her boyfriend. I let her stay in my place came back it was empty. She took off with the same guy that beat her. I don't get it!

Pay and play. It starts off good but over time it blows up in your face. It starts out small. A hundred here and there. Then a few thousand, then they need help for this or that. Next thing you know you are in so deep you think you might get it back. Only to be suckered in for over $100,000.

Man give what you feel comfortable but when they cry because they need money it is over. Some become very good. You do not know they are even doing it to you. They way I look at it is it is not their fault because I fall for it. Cut it off before it gets there. I am a sucker for a pretty face and emotion when it comes to providers. Funny in my real life I am an asshole.

 

[chodge]

Totally agree. My provider that I bought a house with in Montreal for her and her two young boys. Was the fun at first until her EX showed up and the nightmare was painful. I had another in Toronto who got beat up by her boyfriend. I let her stay in my place came back it was empty. She took off with the same guy that beat her. I don't get it!

Pay and play. It starts off good but over time it blows up in your face. It starts out small. A hundred here and there. Then a few thousand, then they need help for this or that. Next thing you know you are in so deep you think you might get it back. Only to be suckered in for over $100,000.

Man give what you feel comfortable but when they cry because they need money it is over. Some become very good. You do not know they are even doing it to you. They way I look at it is it is not their fault because I fall for it. Cut it off before it gets there. I am a sucker for a pretty face and emotion when it comes to providers. Funny in my real life I am an asshole.

Ladies who are looking for ppm online Ihave been aske for ppm of between 300-500 then they want to discuss allowance

 

[Akila Besos]

Can't you guys ask question via email or text to weed out potential SBs you do not like.

Like for instance if a guy on a site asks for unprotected services he gets the axe.

Perhaps avoid people who post pics in head to toe designer outfits.


Or ask for money outright to pay a phone bill so they can talk to you

 

[ScrubsFan]

Can't you guys ask question via email or text to weed out potential SBs you do not like.

Like for instance if a guy on a site asks for unprotected services he gets the axe.

Perhaps avoid people who post pics in head to toe designer outfits.

Designer outfits and the word "spoil" are the axe for me lol