BREAKING NEWS: Israel has just attacked Iran

[Frankfooter]

TBH, nothing to be gained by going into this more.

True enough.

Whether or not that one photo was faked is immaterial, though I know you really want to show that what I post is propaganda.

Regardless, the shitty situations get shittier every day. Ukraine is losing support because trump is backing Israel instead of Ukraine. NATO is pissed because they don't trust the US and have to spend more. Netanyahu is happy because he got enough war to make him popular in Israel for a bit longer. The genocide continues, with a handful of world leaders backing it while globally the world is against it. Iran's hardliners get to look like heroes for withstanding Israel and now will choose whether to build the bomb after ending IAEA cooperation. Turkey and the middle east don't trust the US or NATO. BRICS is watching it all and laughing. The US is turning into a shithole nation, I've had a few people tell me this week they want to leave.

How many dead there are in Gaza is totally unknown now. The posted numbers are about 56k but the Lancet and IDF numbers say its closer to 400,000 or 20% of the population. And it continues to get worse, there is still no food, water, medicine or power.

 

[oil&gas]

That's not good...according to the terrorist supporters...it baffles me how some people here think Iran having nukes is a good idea... MIGA..

That Iran having nukes is not a good idea I don't disagree. I am
of the view the same can be said of any nation in the Middle
East. That being said the world must come to accept the reality
that is nuclear power is a must-have to Iran and eventually
other countries as well.

Iran is a country with a population above 90 million. Compared
with Saudi dependence of its economy on growth of heavy industry
is growing---it is the biggest manufacturer of cars in the Middle
East. Nuclear energy as a source of clean and economical electric
power is essential to Iran.

To me just because Iran having nukes is not a good idea does
not make cheering for Israel's attacks less disgusting.

 

[squeezer]

No. But not for the reasons you might think


CNN has spewed plenty of bullshit in the past, while hiding behind the "anonymous sources" excuse.
If an anonymous source got caught leaking classified information to the press, they'd be jailed on the spot.

You might not like Trump, but he has the intelligence apparatus of the entire US armed forces at his disposal, and I trust that process a lot more than I trust CNN/PMSNBC/NYTimes

I see, but wasn't Fox Fake News sued and paid a huge amount to get out of it? I don't believe it was CNN?

CNN will always correct a story if it is false, unlike the Right-Wing echo chamber media.

So you answered no, so share your reasons. Don't worry, judgment-free, I won't judge you. At least not publicly and thankfully, since we are on our keyboards you wouldn't see any eye rolling or laughing, I swear! So go ahead.

 

[Klatuu]

What everyone is thinking

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1937798133175521744

 

[Klatuu]

Nails it

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1937710561560556026

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

I see, but wasn't Fox Fake News sued and paid a huge amount to get out of it? I don't believe it was CNN?

CNN has also had to pay out lawsuits for false news reports

CNN Confirms Settlement After $275 Million Lawsuit with Nick Sandmann

CNN confirmed Tuesday that it has settled for an undisclosed amount with Nick Sandmann, one of the Covington Catholic High School students smeared by multiple news outlets after a video of a “standoff” between the teens and a Native American activist went viral. Following initial reports on the...

thenationaltriallawyers.org

CNN will always correct a story if it is false

LOL....thanks, I needed a good laugh

So you answered no, so share your reasons

For the simple reason that I'm not a gambler and $100,000 is a lot of money

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1937926296207786396

 

[SchlongConery]

True enough.

Whether or not that one photo was faked is immaterial, though I know you really want to show that what I post is propaganda.

I am not trying to dissuade you from posting propaganda. Every side tries to disseminate information that supports their position. And this is normal.

My suggestion was to consider being more discerning in what you post. Both in terms of being cautious of what you post isn't faked and in terms of overposting re-posts. Nobody likes spam. Some companies that I really liked and supported turned me off by emailing me wayyyyy too often. And in one case in particular, just kept repackaing their 10% discount of their ONE product for every occasion. Fathers Day, Summer Solstice, Weekend Special, Birthday special discount etc. And this is a device I already have and could in no way have the need to buy a second one. t has turned me off the company, despite their product and after-care warranty handling being excellent.

Regardless, the shitty situations get shittier every day. Ukraine is losing support because trump is backing Israel instead of Ukraine. NATO is pissed because they don't trust the US and have to spend more. Netanyahu is happy because he got enough war to make him popular in Israel for a bit longer. The genocide continues, with a handful of world leaders backing it while globally the world is against it. Iran's hardliners get to look like heroes for withstanding Israel and now will choose whether to build the bomb after ending IAEA cooperation. Turkey and the middle east don't trust the US or NATO. BRICS is watching it all and laughing. The US is turning into a shithole nation, I've had a few people tell me this week they want to leave.

How many dead there are in Gaza is totally unknown now. The posted numbers are about 56k but the Lancet and IDF numbers say its closer to 400,000 or 20% of the population. And it continues to get worse, there is still no food, water, medicine or power.

I agree. I haven't seen this degree of unrest and chaos in my life.

I wonder if it is the actual tyrant dictators and demagogues that are the cause of it, or the symptom.

 

[SchlongConery]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1937926296207786396

None of the parties involved (Israel, Trump, Iran) can be trusted.

OBLITERATED? lol

From the sat photos it is clear that the underground facility was hit very hard. The kinetic energy and this amount of explosives being detonated 200' deep in hard rock with tunnels CERTAINLY created incredible seismic energy that would cause many underground tunnels to collapse even if not directly hit. That would sequester the centrifuge room from being usable for the foreseeable future. And those tunnels would not be something you'd dig through as the rock surrounding them would be highly unstable.. You'd have to dig new tunnels in stable areas and hope that when you got to the centrifuge room, that it hadn't collapsed and the machines didn't fall over etc. A hard rock mine can become unusable if well planned, expert blasting operations went wrong. Whether destroyed or just damaged, these facilities are useless now.

I personally think that it was a good idea to bomb these facilites and military sites throughout Iran because they are such regional and global religious fanatic shit disturbers and need to be set back.

I was worried that Russia just might give Iran a few nukes to deter USA/Israel etc but I don't think Putin is that stupid because he'd have to know that Iran would use them.

 

[Klatuu]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1937665797578719674

 

[richaceg]

Trump is the right guy to plant flag poles. Beautiful poles. Frankly, poles the world as never seen before.

It's the best poles

That Iran having nukes is not a good idea I don't disagree. I am
of the view the same can be said of any nation in the Middle
East. That being said the world must come to accept the reality
that is nuclear power is a must-have to Iran and eventually
other countries as well.

Iran is a country with a population above 90 million. Compared
with Saudi dependence of its economy on growth of heavy industry
is growing---it is the biggest manufacturer of cars in the Middle
East. Nuclear energy as a source of clean and economical electric
power is essential to Iran.

To me just because Iran having nukes is not a good idea does
not make cheering for Israel's attacks less disgusting.

Well sure if you put it that way... But what motivates Israel from these "attacks".
If you look at the bigger picture, who is really isolated in the middle east?
Where do you think in the middle east are Jews safe to live?
What do you think fed the paranoia of Israel that at any minute, an attack might be underway.
Why did they have to develop an Iron Dome? Is it necessary?

 

[richaceg]

None of the parties involved (Israel, Trump, Iran) can be trusted.

OBLITERATED? lol

From the sat photos it is clear that the underground facility was hit very hard. The kinetic energy and this amount of explosives being detonated 200' deep in hard rock with tunnels CERTAINLY created incredible seismic energy that would cause many underground tunnels to collapse even if not directly hit. That would sequester the centrifuge room from being usable for the foreseeable future. And those tunnels would not be something you'd dig through as the rock surrounding them would be highly unstable.. You'd have to dig new tunnels in stable areas and hope that when you got to the centrifuge room, that it hadn't collapsed and the machines didn't fall over etc. A hard rock mine can become unusable if well planned, expert blasting operations went wrong. Whether destroyed or just damaged, these facilities are useless now.

I personally think that it was a good idea to bomb these facilites and military sites throughout Iran because they are such regional and global religious fanatic shit disturbers and need to be set back.

I was worried that Russia just might give Iran a few nukes to deter USA/Israel etc but I don't think Putin is that stupid because he'd have to know that Iran would use them.

If Israel is paranoid of Iran's Nuke...IMO they wouldn't say, everything is good now...If they have Mossad working the ground and they find out it's only a minor damage...They would probably not go for ceasefire and want another few drops of bunker busters...

 

[SchlongConery]

If Israel is paranoid of Iran's Nuke...IMO they wouldn't say, everything is good now...If they have Mossad working the ground and they find out it's only a minor damage...They would probably not go for ceasefire and want another few drops of bunker busters...

By the looks of the SAT images, those facilities would take years to clean up and rebuild.

But Trump's signalling seemed to have had the effect of whatever partially enriched material, some (or all?) centrifuges etc moved to another location. There were sat images published showing trucks lined up and moving stuff out. I'm sure if the public can see that, US and Israel could surveil those vehicles and using that and other iintelligence resources, know where things were moved. Follow up strikes on other facilities wouldn't surprise me. I hope they don' t target the actual enriched uranium and effectively cause a dirty bomb.

Also, weren't some of Iran's nuclear scientists and the head of the nuke program assassinated?

Iran's (Russian supplied) air defences were useless, and are pretty much gone. The Khomenei is going to learn right quick that his BFF Vlad isn't likely to share his toys and supply Iran with more. Like Donnie Boy, Vlad's loyalty is one-way and purely transactional.

It was a big risk but both Iran's and Russia's military abilities have to be bled out and neutered.

 

[richaceg]

By the looks of the say images, those facilities would take years to clean up and rebuild.

But Trump's signalling seemed to have had the effect of whatever partially enriched material, some (or all?) centrifuges etc moved to another location. There were sat images published showing trucks lined up and moving stuff out. I'm sure if the public can see that, US and Israel could surveil those vehicles and using that and other iintelligence resources, know where things were moved. Follow up strikes on other facilities wouldn't surprise me. I hope they don' t target the actual enriched uranium and effectively cause a dirty bomb.

Also, weren't some of Iran's nuclear scientists and the head of the nuke program assassinated?

Iran's (Russian supplied) air defences were useless, and are pretty much gone. The Khomenei is going to learn right quick that his BFF Vlad isn't likely to share his toys and supply Iran with more. Like Donnie Boy, Vlad's loyalty is one-way and purely transactional.

It was a big risk but both Iran's and Russia's military abilities have to be bled out and neutered.

The report seems to be that Iran has about 30 sites but only have 3 of those are enrichment and one of those 3 is underground. Iran probably passed those 2 as enrichment for energy and the underground for a Nuke. If it's deem the underground will no longer be operational, I'm sure they will start moving equipment But it seems Mossad already know the other sites. Russia can't afford to join Iran, I don't think China is interested either.

 

[mellowjello]

It's the best poles

Well sure if you put it that way... But what motivates Israel from these "attacks".
If you look at the bigger picture, who is really isolated in the middle east?
Where do you think in the middle east are Jews safe to live?
What do you think fed the paranoia of Israel that at any minute, an attack might be underway.
Why did they have to develop an Iron Dome? Is it necessary?

The Jews would be safe to live in Israel, if they stopped attacking everyone.
If they stopped occupying the Palestinians, "mowing the grass" every few years.
If they stopped stealing land in the West bank and killing and imprisoning innocent people.
Israel foments the circumstances to gaslight and claim paranoia, and then uses that as a justification to attack other countries.
Funny, the more vulnerable and paranoid Israel becomes, the stronger they become and the more land they control.
Israeli aggression and expansion is an extension of U.S. foreign policy.

 

[oil&gas]

It's the best poles

Well sure if you put it that way... But what motivates Israel from these "attacks".
If you look at the bigger picture, who is really isolated in the middle east?
Where do you think in the middle east are Jews safe to live?
What do you think fed the paranoia of Israel that at any minute, an attack might be underway.
Why did they have to develop an Iron Dome? Is it necessary?

China's energy security future is closely tied to security of Iran.
Russia while energy independent also sees Iran as an important
ally as their interest in countering the west is aligned together.
And yet neither China nor Russia would interefere into the Israel-Iran
conflict to the same degree as the U.S. and the west.

I don't pretend I have the solution to peace in the Middle East.
I won't mind if the west could find a way to put a stop on atrocities
committed in Gaza but I don't think I will support the west sending
military aid to the Palestinians. My hunch is wherever the west
intereferes into regional conflicts massive death is to be expected.

 

[richaceg]

China's energy security future is closely tied to security of Iran.
Russia while energy independent also sees Iran as an important
ally as their interest in countering the west is aligned together.
And yet neither China nor Russia would interefere into the Israel-Iran
conflict to the same degree as the U.S. and the west.

I don't pretend I have the solution to peace in the Middle East.
I won't mind if the west could find a way to put a stop on atrocities
committed in Gaza but I don't think I will support the west sending
military aid to the Palestinians. My hunch is wherever the west
intereferes into regional conflicts massive death is to be expected.

Well that's the thing...Any US activity is always magnified...they are the most scrutinized first world country in the world.... Russia and China has the capability to silence anybody who is against their gov't. Funny how that works.The funniest part of all this is when the US votedTrump in...it's as if a switch was turned and every liberal simply hated the US and sided with Russia Iran China faction...clearly cheering them on...LoL... The US isn't perfect when it comes to war / cold war...they play dirty...but don't pretend like Russia Iran China plays fair....

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

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[squeezer]

CNN has also had to pay out lawsuits for false news reports

CNN Confirms Settlement After $275 Million Lawsuit with Nick Sandmann

CNN confirmed Tuesday that it has settled for an undisclosed amount with Nick Sandmann, one of the Covington Catholic High School students smeared by multiple news outlets after a video of a “standoff” between the teens and a Native American activist went viral. Following initial reports on the...

thenationaltriallawyers.org

LOL....thanks, I needed a good laugh


For the simple reason that I'm not a gambler and $100,000 is a lot of money

SO if you think 100K is a lot coin, how much coin is the difference between 800M and 275M, just curious, my math sucks. Show us the number please and if it's high it is probably because of the severity of the fuck up no? Maybe because FOX Fake News lies were intentional and it was going to get really expensive if they went to court. Plus, isn't the other voting machine company still in the courts and waiting for a nice hefty Fox Fake News settlement??

 

[jalimon]

Syrians love Trump

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