Brett Favre traded to NY Jets

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Didn't the Jets also win 11 games as a fairly young team only two years ago? They were expected to suck but played quite well.

With the o-line upgrades I think this team can win 10 games again, and take its chances in January, albeit quite slim.

I think the Packers management team really blew it. No doubt that Favre is a drama queen, but you just bite your lip. You can hate Favre, I have no problem with that, but this is just ridiculous timing for them to start to act tough.... they are not the franchise either.

When your a 13-3 team, winning now has to supercede development (at an acceptable degree). I am big believer in the franchise success cycle theories. In this case, your franchise succession is not screwed if you keep Favre, because you not only have Rogers but Brohm as well.

When Favre decided to come back they should have felt like they won the lottery. It improved there chances to win now at no cost. Instead management acted like a bunch of babies as well.... so what if it temporarily screwed up your long-term plans. Your a title contender. Act like it. Your not bigger then the team either. Team success is a combination of players and management success. Management decided they wanted to be the stars.
 

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lawyerman said:
You're pretty much on the mark scouser1. If they can improve their offensive game they look to be quite strong.
yes this is a team in the same division as the Pats but they are also in the same one as the Dolphins and Bills, look at their sched this year, they have the Raiders,Chiefs,Rams and 49'ers also, a 12 win season isnt completely unrealistic.
 

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guyroch said:
I know you can't always believe headlines but ...

Pennington draws interest from 6 teams

6 teams want Pennington but Farve goes to Jets for 4th round pick ...

Just wondering .... Could Jets trade Farve to Bucks or Vikings and get a better package ??? :p
I'm not sure if your trying to imply that people think Penningston is better... but in case, no.

Favre is $12M player. Teams are not interested him in a backup at that price, and if they have committed alot to another QB won't risk it either. Pennington will probably come cheap ... several teams would be interested in him as a backup now, but not at this prior price tag. Hence the "interest"

The Jets can trade him to the Vikings... but they would then owe the Packers three first round picks, as per the terms of the deal.
 

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Believe me, I would love to see a 12 win season. And I agree the upgrades at offensive line will hopefully help the running game. I will always cheer for the Jets, but I really do not think this is a strong team. I will consider this team a success at 8-8 and then go from there etc. However, how many more years will Farve play? I just do not see the short term benefit of having Farve here, but I'd love to be proven wrong.
 

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There was no short or long term benefit with Pennington. Favre only cost a draft pick, and will sell seats and merchandise in the short term. I don't see how they could pass him up.
 

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scouser1 said:
yes this is a team in the same division as the Pats but they are also in the same one as the Dolphins and Bills, look at their sched this year, they have the Raiders,Chiefs,Rams and 49'ers also, a 12 win season isnt completely unrealistic.
The Bills are a better team than the Jets, they went 7-9 last year with a ton of injuries, had the toughest schedule in the league and have upgraded with free agents in the off season. They also have pretty much the same schedule as the Jets(an easy one). I see them winning at least 10 games.
 

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guyroch said:
If the Bills win the Super Bowl do we get 1/8 of the parade down Front Street ...
You can have 8/8 of the parade down Front Street if you pay $$$$$$$$$$ to the money hungry Bills. LMAO!!! But please don't put your hopes too high on the stupid Buffalo Bills winning the Super Bowl. They will be lucky not end up being the NFL door mat. Hope the 'wishy washy, keep changing his mind' Brett Favre will not become the door mat of NFL quarterbacks. :cool:
 

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guyroch said:
We will bring the Bills some Toronto sports luck .... Yea right as if we have any to give

Big Game this Thrusday ... Bills vs Steelers in T.O . !!!! To think people paid in the 100's for this game ...
The reality is money talks!!! So don't be surprised after this experimental success of making millions from playing in Toronto, the Buffalo Bills will become the Toronto Bills down the road. :cool: May be they will become a championship team with all these money to burn.
 

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lawyerman said:
Favre is in the twilight of his career and will be sacked very often unless the offensive line receives a huge upgrade.

Don't get me wrong. Favre was a great quarterback and an instant hall of famer but I don't believe he will succeed in New York.
I disagree.

I think that for the first time in many years, Favre is really motivated to play football. Physically he still has the tools. Mentally he wants to prove the Packers wrong, and throw it in their face.

I think that the only thing that will prevent him from having an awesome year is injury.

I really hope that he gets hurt. I think he really sucked with the way that he has handled his retirement.
 

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slowandeasy said:
I disagree.

I think that for the first time in many years, Favre is really motivated to play football. Physically he still has the tools. Mentally he wants to prove the Packers wrong, and throw it in their face.

I think that the only thing that will prevent him from having an awesome year is injury.

I really hope that he gets hurt. I think he really sucked with the way that he has handled his retirement.
That's nice that you disagree. The Jets have since upgraded their offensive line but it is unlikely that Favre will have the same type of numbers as in years past unless the Jets receiving corps has a miracle year.

There's not much to motivate Favre to play the game. He is one of the all-time greats and there is little to doubt that. Perhaps he is the toughest quarterback in the history of the game. A change of scenery will probably do him some good but it's a little too late.

I never wish bad things on anyone but he is a bit slower then he was in his prime and he will get his bell rung. The O-line better stay healthy for his sake.
 

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lawyerman said:
That's nice that you disagree. The Jets have since upgraded their offensive line but it is unlikely that Favre will have the same type of numbers as in years past unless the Jets receiving corps has a miracle year.

There's not much to motivate Favre to play the game. He is one of the all-time greats and there is little to doubt that. Perhaps he is the toughest quarterback in the history of the game. A change of scenery will probably do him some good but it's a little too late.

I never wish bad things on anyone but he is a bit slower then he was in his prime and he will get his bell rung. The O-line better stay healthy for his sake.
Pro athletes must have a pretty healthy ego to get that far... Favre's actions in this off season proved that his ego is as big as it gets!!!!

As far as Favre's motivation, don't underestimate that ego... He wants to prove to everyone that he can carry a team all by himself!!!

I don't think that the Jets receivers are great, but they are not that bad..

If Favre starts off well, I think that he is going to have great stats this year.

We will see how it plays out in due time.
 

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lawyerman said:
That's nice that you disagree. The Jets have since upgraded their offensive line but it is unlikely that Favre will have the same type of numbers as in years past unless the Jets receiving corps has a miracle year.

There's not much to motivate Favre to play the game. He is one of the all-time greats and there is little to doubt that. Perhaps he is the toughest quarterback in the history of the game. A change of scenery will probably do him some good but it's a little too late.

I never wish bad things on anyone but he is a bit slower then he was in his prime and he will get his bell rung. The O-line better stay healthy for his sake.
Maybe it isn't too late?
 

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I know all the Favre fans will disagree with me on this but with the way Chad Pennington is playing this season, he is easily the 2nd best off-season acquistion , a close 2nd to Favre. If Pennington was still with the NYJ I'm not so sure that they wouldnt have a similar record. The Jets made A LOT of offseason additions even BEFORE getting Bret Favre. I am just saying that if Pennington was still with the Jets and he was playing the way he is playing now with the Fish the Jets would have a similar record IMHO.
 

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Both Favre and Pennington seem to have found new life on their new clubs. I am pleasantly surprised and happy for both of them.

maurice93 said:
Maybe it isn't too late?
Maybe you should stop being an idiot. WTF. Thanks for pointing that out.

I will be the first to admit that I was wrong.

The season is not over yet so we shall see what happens.

Didn't the Jets lose to Oakland a few weeks ago?

You never know what will happen in this league from week to week. That's what make things so interesting.
 
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The Jets will go as far in the playoffs as Favre can go without the untimely interception. I am not happy he's seeing success, for all the jerking around he did I was hoping he'd suck.
 

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slurp said:
The Jets will go as far in the playoffs as Favre can go without the untimely interception. I am not happy he's seeing success, for all the jerking around he did I was hoping he'd suck.
I was hoping he would suck too... but he is physically able to play great football. So far his motivation to prove himself has not been overcome by his desire to be the hero and make stupid plays.... well, a few bonehead plays ended up being spectacular plays, but so far he has stayed in the playbook.
 
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