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Mikehorn

Govt Designated Pervert
I just called my MP and then wrote to him:


I first would like to apologize for this short and somewhat messy email, I didn't realize until moments ago that there is a debate in the house this afternoon, and I wish I'd had time to sort through my thoughts and write them in a more clear, concise and coherent manner. I will write again when I've had a chance to sort through all that I'd like to say, (this is the just the tip of the iceberg!) so having said that, please take the time to read these few points:

I'm not sure if you're aware, but despite our constituency riding being a small and rural one, this bill affects some of your residents.

I am an independent sex worker, I've been working in the industry for six years and I am very happy. I am not exploited, abused, marginalized, trafficked, or underage. I am a mature, independent, free thinking woman, who enjoys the company of a man very much, but chooses not to maintain a conventional relationship.

I am educated formally in Legal Office Administration, and I've studies other fields since, but I've worked in many varied industries, from food & beverage service, to disaster restoration and everything in between.... and now to sex work.

I can truthfully say that I have been treated very badly by some employers and managers in many positions, more in food & beverage service than in any other. Long hours, no breaks, pretentious customers, late nights, early mornings, poor working conditions, negligent safety standards, and the kicker ... all that for minimum wage.

I've never felt LESS exploited than I do right now, as an independent sex professional.

Am I 'trapped' in sex work? Would I exit sex work if I had options? Good question. I have bills to pay, like most. I have a future to plan, like most. I have a retirement to save for, like most. Are you trapped in your job? Would you exit if you had options? Wouldn't we all just leave our job if we didn't have to stay?

Enough about me, now lets talk about my clients. The gentlemen who visit me are not perverts. They are our brothers, fathers, sons and friends. They are often so lonely, it brings a tear to my eye. They are in need of compassion, closeness, a feeling of intimacy, They aren't abusive to me, they are kind and gentle, and they are so grateful for what I am providing. It's not all about sex.

Please take these thoughts with you today as you debate on my future. Thank you for taking the time to read my email.

Please don't make myself and the men I adore criminals.

Miss Jessica Lee
www.MissJessicaLee.com
705-795-3730
Beautiful and well written Jess.
 

Mikehorn

Govt Designated Pervert
that really is the tip of the iceberg...I've started a long and serious letter but it's no where near done so I will wait til it's perfect before I send, and I will post a copy on terb. It includes some background, like how for example I like working out, spend hours at the gym, got interested in anatomy and the science behind fitness, so I studied it and left my admin position for a job in fitness and nutrition ... and how that's very similar to my start in sex work ... I was involved in the swinging community, enjoyed it, had encounters with people, attended parties, and like it so much I did some investigating and educated myself ... realized I could very possibly make this hobby into a career too ... and started garnering an income from it. How, pray tell, is that a description of someone being forced into the sex trade?

I get that not everyone has a 'happy hooker' story. I get that not everyone in the biz wants to or should remain in it. I spoke at length with someone yesterday who's a great example of that. Those are where the focus should be, those who are feeling trapped by poverty, addiction and mental health issues. Let's get them help to get out.

I get that not everyone is as sexually liberated as some of us, nor do they want to be. I get there are people out there who turn off the lights before getting undressed, that close the bathroom door so their spouse doesn't hear or see them pee, that don't share bedrooms. I don't have a problem with that at all, that's their comfort level and nothing should be done to take someone out of their comfort level unwillingly. I would never suggest they change a thing. The problem is that they don't get me. They want to change me, they don't feel it's "right" or "morally just" .. so they think I should just be different.

What hurts the most is that people like that refuse to see my point of view, and when they do listen they pat my arm and "there, there, dear" me because they think there's something fundamentally wrong with me. There must be, because how would someone in their "right mind" possibly enjoy sex work. They refuse to acknowledge that I might be ok, even loving life. When someone tell you that you're just not possibly able to make good decisions for yourself because you're a sex worker, and, well.... sex workers just don't know any better, that's what really stings.
Amazing how our society has come so far in some areas (gay rights, bullying, etc) and is still so backward in others.
 

MPAsquared

www.musemassagespa.com
Hmmm. I noticed his wording was massively softer this round. Instead of disgust in his voice, he had some phoney compassion when uttering the word "prostitute". Oh and this time he didn't call anyone perverts. Politicians make me ill. I'm quite pleased with the pressure for SCC-review. But for fuck sakes will he just answer the sexual services question already!!!! (this break-time music reminds me of walking thru Canada's Wonderland. Lol)
 

Yoga Face

New member
Jun 30, 2009
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in 29 minutes a motion that this house do now adjourn

what's that about?
looks like it takes 30 minutes to decide whether to adjourn because by voice the nays said do not adjourn i guess

but for how long?? just the rest of today??
 

Yoga Face

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Jun 30, 2009
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nice little bit of ass kissing at the end there ... MP Joy Smith wants to hear about the compassionate side of the bill. Good grief.
yes that was set up

which is why Mackay had a written answer

Mackay said the politician who questioned him "was obviously not einstein" to his face

could not the said politician demanded an apology?


Mckay lumped Johns and traffickers of underage girls in the same dung pile!!!!!

I wonder how many times he wanted a nude reverse ??????? Maybe he just prays for forgiveness when overcome with natural desires

this is gonna be a one sided debate with the rights of sex workers and of johns never part of the debate
 

canada-man

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Pope Shakey @PopeShakey · 6m
@AfterBedford If the house adjourns it means the remainder of today's business (other matters) will resume tomorrow.


Pope Shakey @PopeShakey · 5m
@AfterBedford It's a delay tactic to keep this bill from passing 2nd reading before the summer recess which begins next Friday.
 

justfor

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Mar 11, 2012
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I just called my MP and then wrote to him:


I first would like to apologize for this short and somewhat messy email, I didn't realize until moments ago that there is a debate in the house this afternoon, and I wish I'd had time to sort through my thoughts and write them in a more clear, concise and coherent manner. I will write again when I've had a chance to sort through all that I'd like to say, (this is the just the tip of the iceberg!) so having said that, please take the time to read these few points:

I'm not sure if you're aware, but despite our constituency riding being a small and rural one, this bill affects some of your residents.

I am an independent sex worker, I've been working in the industry for six years and I am very happy. I am not exploited, abused, marginalized, trafficked, or underage. I am a mature, independent, free thinking woman, who enjoys the company of a man very much, but chooses not to maintain a conventional relationship.

I am educated formally in Legal Office Administration, and I've studies other fields since, but I've worked in many varied industries, from food & beverage service, to disaster restoration and everything in between.... and now to sex work.

I can truthfully say that I have been treated very badly by some employers and managers in many positions, more in food & beverage service than in any other. Long hours, no breaks, pretentious customers, late nights, early mornings, poor working conditions, negligent safety standards, and the kicker ... all that for minimum wage.

I've never felt LESS exploited than I do right now, as an independent sex professional.

Am I 'trapped' in sex work? Would I exit sex work if I had options? Good question. I have bills to pay, like most. I have a future to plan, like most. I have a retirement to save for, like most. Are you trapped in your job? Would you exit if you had options? Wouldn't we all just leave our job if we didn't have to stay?

Enough about me, now lets talk about my clients. The gentlemen who visit me are not perverts. They are our brothers, fathers, sons and friends. They are often so lonely, it brings a tear to my eye. They are in need of compassion, closeness, a feeling of intimacy, They aren't abusive to me, they are kind and gentle, and they are so grateful for what I am providing. It's not all about sex.

Please take these thoughts with you today as you debate on my future. Thank you for taking the time to read my email.

Please don't make myself and the men I adore criminals.

Miss Jessica Lee
www.MissJessicaLee.com
705-795-3730
Very well-written, Miss Jessica Lee.

Thank you for your effort.
 

TeasePlease

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Aug 3, 2010
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It is a bill PROPOSED
It is NOT current law
I've been saying that prohibiting purchasing is tantamount to prohibiting prostitution since last December

Never mind, I should just save my breath for those who can keep up with the discussion.

motion defeated they moved on to other bills
so that's it for first reading?
 

DigitallyYours

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Oct 31, 2010
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How do these clowns get anything done?

They do not respond to each other's points. They just talk past each other. No requirement to offer evidence to back up anything they're saying.

At least in court, the judge will consider all arguments and submitted evidence.

Parliament is such a joke.
 

TeasePlease

Cockasian Brother
Aug 3, 2010
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it was second reading... and that appears to be it for today. It's good they delayed... we don't want them voting yet and it passing through to committee too quickly. I'd like them to push for the results of the 'research' before they vote. Seems logical...no?
Holy crap! When was the first reading? It sounded like a first read today with Mackay's preface.

if that was second reading, that does not bode well for constructive and meaningful debate of opposition
 

d_jedi

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LOL I was thinking this exactly.. how many of those conservative bastards see SPs... probably most of them!
Well, my position is we need to fight dirty to win this war.
As far as I'm concerned, ladies.. name and shame these Conservative bastards.
 
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