They didn't lose anything. It's a public service. That's like saying my local firehouse lost $1 million last month. No they didn't. That's the cost of operating a service that benefits everyone, whether they need it in the moment or not. You don't get to say, "well my house didn't burn down this month so it's not worth it. They need to cut costs and make those greedy firefighters give up some of their pay."
Canada Post on Strike
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Door to door can be discontinued completely and go to the super boxes. Every new development since the early 80s has them. Once a week is perfect for residential and twice a week for commercial.
No but losing $10,000,000.00 a day isn’t the answer either. The entire system needs to be fixed. There are hundreds of better ways to spend that kind of money.
I should've specify, I use my land line. I don't use my cell phone, most cellphones have been hacked you just don't know it. Here's a link from 60 minutes that shows how easy it is to hack a cell phone. I do nothing with my cell except talk an browse, I don't buy nothing and no banking. Guys should check out this video,
"60 Minutes" shows how easily your phone can be hacked
Personal information of millions of Americans are at risk, as attacks on smart phones grow. On this Sunday’s “60 Minutes,” Sharyn Alfonsi investigates why phones are so vulnerable, taking a look at the surprising role hackers play in protecting our data. Some of the world’s best hackers show...
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I don't disagree that there are efficiencies that can be found in any Crown corporation likely, but saying that workers should bear the brunt (or they shouldn't ask for more) isn't the answer. There's inefficiencies in any org but it's not usually coming from the bottom.
Canada Post is a service, not a business.
How much do cops lose every day?
Its a service, not a business.
How much do schools lose every year?
Well, the government finally tries to eliminate these inefficiencies that come from the "top": switch to community boxes, reduce delivery frequencies, switch to ground mail, and close some post offices. But guess what, higher efficiency means fewer postal workers are needed. Or did you mean some other efficiency where Canada Post can suddenly lose less money and keep all its employees? And yes, it is a service, but it is paid by all of us through taxes, and common sense says we do not need that much service for such a huge price: a lower-level but cheaper service would be better.
you really do not understand what is going to happen
Budget watchdog sounds alarm about Ottawa’s ‘unsustainable’ fiscal path
Stupefying," “shocking” and “unsustainable” -- those were just some of the words Ottawa’s fiscal watchdog used Thursday to describe his scathing forecast for federal finances ahead of a long-anticipated fall budget.
www.bnnbloomberg.ca
Budget watchdog sounds alarm about Ottawa’s ‘unsustainable’ fiscal path
your brand of ill-informed foolish thinking is precisely why our country's government is heading towards insolvency
Trudeau destroyed the Federal governments finances and the provinces are debt ridden
we can not continue to throw money at special interest groups
Canada Post was given a monopoly on letter delivery
this served the country reasonably well for decades (other than the entrenchment of greedy unions within a federally funded monoploy)
however the country has changed
the volume of address continues to grow
while the volume of letters per address (and total volume) continues to decline
delivering fewer letter to more places is a recipe for inefficiency and financial ruin
Canada post losses are staggering and unsustainable
If a company / sole proprietorship reports 7 years of running losses to CRA , they automatically determine the business is unsustainable and launch an audit
The status quo for Canada Post and their fool unions can not continue
Major changes are required
you need to starting thinking about the impact on other govt services of continued deficits and mismanaged govt finances
lenders will stop lending to countries who abandon fiscal restraint
decades down the road you may need a knee / hip replacement or heart surgery and you do not want to have to pay out of pocket for those
i.e universal health care is at risk (God damn stupid liberal govts)
Our governments are in deep financial trouble and a debt spiral is extremely difficult to stop
I don't expect any side will get what they want fully, and no one here knows the intricacies of where funds can be better allocated while maintaining employment and wages to match cost-of-living increases within CP. All I'm saying is that denigrating workers for standing up for themselves does everyone a disservice. The media and political forces that tell us to hate workers, esp union workers, do this with a very specific purpose.
We also treat CP differently than other services because they have a competition of sorts (they really don't, not for everything they do, but w/e) and because they generate revenue. Police don't generate revenue but wages go up every year, budgets increase almost every year, and recruitment increases almost every year, even as crime rates drop.
This isn't a private business, despite it's ability to generate income. CP is not the reason why provincially run health care will be harder to obtain or whatever you're implying about special interest groups. The privatization of our public services will, however. This has always lead to higher costs and further reduced access to those who need it most.
Well, due to changing circumstances, namely that parcels and letters are tanking..... we are over serviced and need to cut back. Once a week is fine. Yes, they'll always lose money , though in the past they have broke even or turned a modest profit, but the losses have to be minimalized. Times have changed.... blacksmiths are having a rough go too!
I agree which is why there will be a compromise, likely. I still think it's better than blindly accepting cutbacks or promised raises. If both sides end up unhappy, it's probably a reasonable amount of concessions for everyone.
you have completely missed the point and you have ignored what you do not want recognize
our irresponsible governments are driving down the path of a debt spiral and insolvency
the fed govt can no longer afford to have crown corporations such as CP to continue to burn through hundreds of millions of debt financed dollars
the CRA considers seven continuous losses as a non viable business
CP's business model is non viable due to technological change and thus needs to be completely restructured or completely shut down
you do not seem to grasp the reality of what is going to happen in Canada
it will not be pretty and the status quo including so called essential services will not survive
do you want to maintain education and universal health care or do you want to maintain money pit crown corporations like CP and the funneling of money to special interest groups ?
you can no longer have the status quo
Lost/cost - whatever. It is too much. Period. And anyone breaching on the side of keeping all the services is out of their mind.
Community mailbox and no door to door is just the first step. And going on strike because you don't like it is just making it worse. Employees need to focus individually on the change. If hours are being cut, look for a new job. It sucks but CP employees are not immune to economic downfalls. Union or not.
The writing is on the wall. Get with the program.
Community mailbox and no door to door is just the first step. And going on strike because you don't like it is just making it worse. Employees need to focus individually on the change. If hours are being cut, look for a new job. It sucks but CP employees are not immune to economic downfalls. Union or not.
The writing is on the wall. Get with the program.
you are dreaming
special interest groups include govt unions who think they are entitled to employment, where there will be no job losses and cost-of-living increases while funded by taxpayers the vast majority of which do not have employment or cost-of-living increases guaranteed
the vast majority of tax payers ensure job security and cost-of-living increases not by threats of strikes but rather via merit and on going contributions to ensure their organization remains profitable
the unions reap what they sow
screwing over the customers via strikes , strike threats is just extortion and does not endear them to the public
such threats/ actions defiantly does everyone a disservice.
mention CP is in the news again and everyone first thought is' 'What another strike/ threat? "
not enough to cover the costs of guaranteed employment and cost of living entitlements
and that has become an unsustainable problem that must be addressed
technology has not made crime obsolete or police services non-viable
it has however made CP non-viable
and you are dead wrong about crime rates dropping
what a ridiculous comparison
home delivery of letters vs. increased risk of being a victim of a violent crime
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How long have the police been losing money?
Year after year.
Its time to shut them down too.
Same logic, larue.
You are seriously measuring public safety against public mail service????? Come on. Fight your side but use logical arguments and compare accordingly.
I'm not saying they are the same, just that there are services that society thinks are necessary that we don't consider as businesses.You are seriously measuring public safety against public mail service????? Come on. Fight your side but use logical arguments and compare accordingly.
