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ig-88

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The door swings both ways, depending upon what you're in the mood for. This is why the Canadian border is the busiest for both countries.

For hobbying, sexual freedoms, alternative lifestyles, etc., it is pointless to draw a comparison. Canada wins hands down.

For gambling and cheap booze, nothing compares to Vegas, as the many Canadians who visit will attest.

For a cheap and safe beach vacation, go to Hawaii or Florida.

For skiing, Canada is becoming more popular than Colorado, with many Americans opting for Western Canada instead of Colorado. For example, Frontier Airlines, based in Denver, has started offering Canadian service with ski trips to Alberta.
 

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ig-88 said:
The door swings both ways, depending upon what you're in the mood for. This is why the Canadian border is the busiest for both countries.

For hobbying, sexual freedoms, alternative lifestyles, etc., it is pointless to draw a comparison. Canada wins hands down.

For gambling and cheap booze, nothing compares to Vegas, as the many Canadians who visit will attest.

For a cheap and safe beach vacation, go to Hawaii or Florida.

For skiing, Canada is becoming more popular than Colorado, with many Americans opting for Western Canada instead of Colorado. For example, Frontier Airlines, based in Denver, has started offering Canadian service with ski trips to Alberta.
I agree with all of the above except for Hawaii being a cheap beach vacation. I found Hawaii to be a very expensive city but you can't beat the beaches. Certain areas of Florida are expensive also but in comparison much cheaper than Hawaii. For the geographically illiterate, what popular Canadian beaches are there?
 

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ig-88 said:
Huh? Have had a US debit card since the late 90s. Many offer frequent flyer miles too.



http://www.ezpass.com/



The DC Metro is clean and modern, and does not allow food/drink or loud stereos playing. It also features a SmartCard RFID payment system, which I have not seen in Canada yet. Surveillance cameras will take care of turnstile jumpers, and panhandlers are abruptly dealt with.



Depends on which post office you go to. There is one in Long Island that is open 7 days/24 hours. In addition, the USPS website has many services available online.
Canada: We seem to produce delusional people like flies, people like Brotherman who either never travel, or when they do, do so with maple-leaf shaded glasses that don't permit them to see that other places can be better than Canada. Like the Washington Metro...far superior to the dingy, antiquated TTC.

USA: They don't give a toss about the rest of the world.
 

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NASA had many more Canadian and British engineers than Germans.

Many of the Canadian engineers came from the Avro Arrow program that, if left alone, would have put Canadians, not Russians, first in space.
While I agree that the number of people from Avro and Orenda that left for the US was huge and was a a big boost for the US space program, I disagree about Canada being the first to space. The first flight of the Avro Arrow RL 201 was the same date as Sputnik I. So, the Soviets were there while the Arrow was still in development.

Canada would have never created an independant space program. We could not fund the Arrow (although the conspirisy folks think it was the US telling Deif to cancel it).
 

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Lottery winnings in Canada are TAX FREE!

Not so in the U.S.
 

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GST and PST vs. State Sales Tax. I know as a US citizen I get back a portion of my GST (or maybe its PST) at the boarder. I have been told Canadian's who buy goods in the states don't get reimbursed for the state sales tax they paid. Is that true?
 

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There is milk in plastic bags in the states, just depends on which store your in.

21 thier drinking age 19 is ours, plus our acohol is WAY stronger.

I felt like I was drinking water down there. took me a 40 of smirnouf to get even a little tipsy.

lotto, gamling TAX free them as soon as you get it half is gone.

dollar bills ,,, coin dollar

1 dollar menus at mcdonalds.
1 dollar bill in strippers gstrings
 

raven@mirage

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From doing credit collection for american express and nextel you have to make sure your speaking to the proper person depending on the stae soms states wont let thier spose speak on the balf of the account holder.

it was a big pain in the ass sometimes.
 

ig-88

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petitelover said:
GST and PST vs. State Sales Tax. I know as a US citizen I get back a portion of my GST (or maybe its PST) at the boarder. I have been told Canadian's who buy goods in the states don't get reimbursed for the state sales tax they paid. Is that true?
Canada is eliminating the visitor tax rebate program. I think a lot of tourists never bothered to claim it anyway.

http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/visitors/
 

escortsxxx

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USA -clearly inferior medical system

petitelover said:
Being an American I would certainly be in trouble if I did not have private health insurance. VERY costly, but necessary. On the other hand, I have been told a lot of the top docs in Canada are leaving to come to the states to practice which is leaving Canada with a serious shortage of medical providers. My Canadian friends tell me it is hard, if not impossible, to book a time for a MRI that is less than 6 months away or a timely appointment with a specialist. If the brain drain continues, I fear my Canadian friends will be visiting me in the states and asking help for competent medical care. All things being equal, I think the edge goes to the states on this one if you can afford the medical insurance.
This is sort of a myth; similar to rebates from future shops, just

like if you try to get a money rebate from future shop less than 30%

are honoured ( a discussion in terb elsewhere and now on the news) if

you get seriously sick in the states chronically your fucked. As soon

as you can no longer work, your medical service is terminated, so any

stay over a few weeks means an end of employment and insurance. I know

close to a 100 family members in the states that have had there

medical insurance revoked for accidents, chronic illness, or more

importantly being fired as soon as there sick. A hospital stay per day

in the states starts at $1200 there per day and here its $400 (no

profit system so its at cost -doctors salaries, nurses, plus equipment)

. Job and insurance termination is common place for the middle class.

It cost to mush to give good care in general. Even the

federal gov with its deep pockets tries to end care quickly. USA vets are

a case in point, after WWII ended or the Vietnam most vets had there

medical benefits cancelled (a court case is still in the works to get

them paid) and now Bush is getting flack for shoving his vets into a

cess poll. For anyone of MMC or less its crap. And by the way, anyone

in Canada can use there system as will; and get the advantages of our

system. The reverse is not true.

The problem in Canada is ENRON type fraud. For example in 1995

Harris closed extra hospitals which where never extra in the first

places. Where did he sell or give away the billions of dollars in

medical equipment? Friendly USA medical corporations which bought at

fire sale prices or where given outright "surplus" medical equipment

that we are currently desperate for; since we needed it in the first

place. It allowed Harris to balance the books but at a huge cost; the

equivalent of selling the home you live and then paying rent to the

person your sold it too . . . a horrible left wing style decision.
 

escortsxxx

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escortsxxx said:
This is sort of a myth; similar to rebates from future shops, just

like if you try to get a money rebate from future shop less than 30%

are honoured ( a discussion in terb elsewhere and now on the news) if

you get seriously sick in the states chronically your fucked. As soon

as you can no longer work, your medical service is terminated, so any

stay over a few weeks means an end of employment and insurance. I know

close to a 100 family members in the states that have had there

medical insurance revoked for accidents, chronic illness, or more

importantly being fired as soon as there sick. A hospital stay per day

in the states starts at $1200 there per day and here its $400 (no

profit system so its at cost -doctors salaries, nurses, plus equipment)

. Job and insurance termination is common place for the middle class.

It cost to mush to give good care in general. Even the

federal gov with its deep pockets tries to end care quickly. USA vets are

a case in point, after WWII ended or the Vietnam most vets had there

medical benefits cancelled (a court case is still in the works to get

them paid) and now Bush is getting flack for shoving his vets into a

cess poll. For anyone of MMC or less its crap. And by the way, anyone

in Canada can use there system as will; and get the advantages of our

system. The reverse is not true.

The problem in Canada is ENRON type fraud. For example in 1995

Harris closed extra hospitals which where never extra in the first

places. Where did he sell or give away the billions of dollars in

medical equipment? Friendly USA medical corporations which bought at

fire sale prices or where given outright "surplus" medical equipment

that we are currently desperate for; since we needed it in the first

place. It allowed Harris to balance the books but at a huge cost; the

equivalent of selling the home you live and then paying rent to the

person your sold it too . . . a horrible left wing style decision.

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Angry Dubya's Gone AWOL AGAIN
Update on how Cheney/Dubya & Team 'w' continue to ignore growing VA health problems. This is a national DISGRACE. As VA problems mount, Dubya's solution is to cut funding vital to the VA to do their mission.
This is how Team 'w' treats those returning maimed Vets that believed their LIES and thought they were serving their country..........

America’s MIA President

Friday, February 23rd, 2007 | 5:19 am

By ANN McFEATTERS

A day at Walter Reed Army Medical Center is an eye-opener — about our soldiers, our government generally and the Bush administration.

I visited the renowned hospital complex after The Washington Post ran a series of articles exposing serious problems at the center, where as many as one-fourth of our injured soldiers from Iraq and Afghanistan are treated. The halls are swarming with the wounded and their families. Residential facilities for recuperating soldiers and their spouses have a long waiting list.

The Post reported that soldiers are housed in deteriorated conditions of mold, mice infestations, disrepair and inadequate facilities for amputees. Depression and post-traumatic stress syndrome are often overlooked. Nightmarish paperwork stymies even the most aggressive.

What I saw was not a lack of caring or quality medical care. But I found a soldier without his legs sent in four different directions for four forms over the course of a day. His exhausted wife, near tears, was pushing him in a wheelchair through ice.

I talked with a woman whose husband has been in and out of Walter Reed for nearly two years after losing his face in war. He sat calmly waiting for yet another surgery attempting to craft features such as a nose and a lip. His wife had nothing but praise for his plastic surgeons. But she said Walter Reed’s bureaucratic morass is unbelievable.

I saw the family of a soldier whose helicopter crashed in Afghanistan. He has badly broken legs, a cracked pelvis, a broken jaw, a collapsed lung and a punctured eardrum. Six of his teammates hovered near him, caring for his family, who had flown across the country, including his wheelchair-bound father.

His fellow soldiers said he described the pain as “intolerable” after his first surgery, but that he was more concerned about the fate of his friends. Eight did not survive. Eager to help, one of his comrades went looking for a video-game console to give him something to do. “At least his hands are OK,” he said.

There are many volunteers at Walter Reed. From Operation First Response to the Wounded Warrior Project, hundreds of people care. I saw one man wheeling a cart of new CD players and DVD players around the hospital. Volunteers say most soldiers and spouses are resilient, brave, cheerful, patriotic and optimistic.

In recent days, the commander at Walter Reed, Maj. Gen. George Weightman, and the Army’s surgeon general, Lt. Gen. Kevin Kiley, have been all over TV, saying the problems at the facility are being fixed and that they are “extremely proud” of the work their staffs are doing.

But the point is that crumbling infrastructure, inhumane bureaucracy and inadequate treatment for mental disorders have been known about for years and have been permitted to continue.

The month before The Post’s series ran, a conference on “quality of life” problems faced by soldiers, their families and civilian staff at Walter Reed found a long list of “issues.” They included: inadequate convalescent-leave paperwork, resulting in soldiers not getting benefits to travel as scheduled; lack of direction for emergency family care; unequal benefits based on the locale where a soldier is injured and not on the extent of injuries; and no overall plan to help wounded warriors through their convalescence.

Other problems involved the lack of childcare, uniforms, military housing, parking, laundry facilities, recreational activities and cleanliness.

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., defender of President Bush’s strategy in Iraq, nonetheless has called former defense chief Donald Rumsfeld “one of the worst secretaries of defense in history.” When Rumsfeld visited Walter Reed, did he never seek to find out what was really going on there? On Bush’s trips there to shake hands with a few soldiers, wasn’t he ever curious? When Rumsfeld and Bush were planning the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, did they never think to determine how the wounded would be helped?

Did they not know that today’s injured soldiers are dealing with far more horrific injuries than in the past because battlefield medicine keeps more of them alive?

Walter Reed is supposed to be shut down in 2011. But facilities to handle its patients have not been built, renovated or expanded. Funds may not be scarce for cool new weapons on the design board — even “Star Wars” missile-defense technology — but they are exceedingly scarce for real soldiers.

If the Army is broken, as many believe, Rumsfeld and Bush broke it. And fixing it is proving more difficult than fixing the courageous soldiers the administration sent to war and who returned home broken.

(Scripps Howard columnist Ann McFeatters has covered the White House and national politics since 1986. E-mail amcfeatters(at)hotmail.com. For more stories visit scrippsnews.co
 
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petitelover said:
Wow, what a disapointment to visitors. I am in Canada frequently and the amount of GST I get back on lodging alone amounts to a lot of money. I think the revocation might further hurt tourism.
They may be eliminating the rebate to assist with the augmented costs of Canadian Passport production. ;)
 

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escortsxxx said:
This is sort of a myth; similar to rebates from future shops, just

like if you try to get a money rebate from future shop less than 30%

are honoured ( a discussion in terb elsewhere and now on the news) if

you get seriously sick in the states chronically your fucked. As soon

as you can no longer work, your medical service is terminated, so any

stay over a few weeks means an end of employment and insurance. I know

close to a 100 family members in the states that have had there

medical insurance revoked for accidents, chronic illness, or more

importantly being fired as soon as there sick. A hospital stay per day

in the states starts at $1200 there per day and here its $400 (no

profit system so its at cost -doctors salaries, nurses, plus equipment)

. Job and insurance termination is common place for the middle class.

It cost to mush to give good care in general. Even the

federal gov with its deep pockets tries to end care quickly. USA vets are

a case in point, after WWII ended or the Vietnam most vets had there

medical benefits cancelled (a court case is still in the works to get

them paid) and now Bush is getting flack for shoving his vets into a

cess poll. For anyone of MMC or less its crap. And by the way, anyone

in Canada can use there system as will; and get the advantages of our

system. The reverse is not true.

The problem in Canada is ENRON type fraud. For example in 1995

Harris closed extra hospitals which where never extra in the first

places. Where did he sell or give away the billions of dollars in

medical equipment? Friendly USA medical corporations which bought at

fire sale prices or where given outright "surplus" medical equipment

that we are currently desperate for; since we needed it in the first

place. It allowed Harris to balance the books but at a huge cost; the

equivalent of selling the home you live and then paying rent to the

person your sold it too . . . a horrible left wing style decision.
I agree and disagree. First, your comment that medical insurance automatically terminates upon termination or leaving a job is not correct. In the US, under health benefits of COBRA an employee who is terminated or leaves employment can opt to pay for health insurance coverage so no lapse occurs. It is also a falsehood that the insurance company can cancel you once you are sick - at least for the "blues" in the states (Blue Cross Blue Shield) I am not sure about the private insurance carriers such as Allstate or others. I agree health care could and should be improved for all the men and women who have fought to protect our great nation.

I see advantages to both Canadian and US medical systems. The clincher that the system might be a tad better in the states was when a Canadian friend of mine told me she had to wait 6 months to get a MRI. 6 MONTHS - are you kidding me? In the states they should be able to get you in within a week or so. When you are unsure what the problem is or even if there is a problem, waiting for 6 months to find out will play with your mind.
 

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That's because Canada enjoys never having to really get involved in a meaningful way in world politics. The USA has that expectation and although we make mistakes sometimes . . . at least we're in the game. It comes with the territory as being the only SuperPower on the planet. Canada is neutral to the point of being almost insignificant in the eyes of the rest of the world. Why would anyone in another country feel anything toward visitors from Canada? Just remember that the emotions toward visiting Americans run strong both ways. We are disliked by some for our countries poilitcs. But we are also loved by just as many who remember when America bailed them out. You don't get any of that emotion as a citizen of Canada. In the US, we're used to it - we accept it. It's part of being an American. I doubt there is anyone outside of North America who wakes up and says "I wonder what those Canadians are doing today?" I like Canada . . . but you really can't compare Canada with the US. They are very different due to their influence.
 

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I notice the following reactions to Canada by mainstream Americans, from most common to least common:

1. The Assumers - Canada might as well be part of the US. Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal are uttered with the same regard as New York, L.A., and Chicago. Americans who travel abroad often ignore Canada because it's not exotic enough for them.

2. The Clueless - Canada? Where's that? Do they speak English? Do they eat with forks and knives? Do they have indoor plumbing? Is it hotter or colder there?

3. The Ignorant - Canada? That vast wasteland to the North? Been there ... found it boring, nothing to do. Laughs at jokes like Blame Canada on South Park, or the movie Canadian Bacon.
 
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bradwest said:
That's because Canada enjoys never having to really get involved in a meaningful way in world politics. The USA has that expectation and although we make mistakes sometimes . . . at least we're in the game. It comes with the territory as being the only SuperPower on the planet. Canada is neutral to the point of being almost insignificant in the eyes of the rest of the world. Why would anyone in another country feel anything toward visitors from Canada? Just remember that the emotions toward visiting Americans run strong both ways. We are disliked by some for our countries poilitcs. But we are also loved by just as many who remember when America bailed them out. You don't get any of that emotion as a citizen of Canada. In the US, we're used to it - we accept it. It's part of being an American. I doubt there is anyone outside of North America who wakes up and says "I wonder what those Canadians are doing today?" I like Canada . . . but you really can't compare Canada with the US. They are very different due to their influence.
You've obviously never been to Holland.
 

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bradwest said:
That's because Canada enjoys never having to really get involved in a meaningful way in world politics. The USA has that expectation and although we make mistakes sometimes . . . at least we're in the game. It comes with the territory as being the only SuperPower on the planet. Canada is neutral to the point of being almost insignificant in the eyes of the rest of the world. Why would anyone in another country feel anything toward visitors from Canada? Just remember that the emotions toward visiting Americans run strong both ways. We are disliked by some for our countries poilitcs. But we are also loved by just as many who remember when America bailed them out. You don't get any of that emotion as a citizen of Canada. In the US, we're used to it - we accept it. It's part of being an American. I doubt there is anyone outside of North America who wakes up and says "I wonder what those Canadians are doing today?" I like Canada . . . but you really can't compare Canada with the US. They are very different due to their influence.
Today's Globe and Mail reports a BBC poll of 18,000 adults in 18 countries: "Only 29% said they saw the influence of the US as 'positive'—down from 40% two years ago—52% saw American influence as 'mainly negative'".

Your thinking about what "comes w/ the territory as the only superpower" doesn't travel well beyond your borders. For most people, a self-appointed cop, whose principal qualification is only that he's the biggest guy around, is just another bully. If he's self-righteous, it just makes him harder to take.
 
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