Canadian man on vacation in Egypt killed by sniper.

[FAST]

To the point.

The issue is not about Morsi, its the wisdom of a Canadian man going to a war zone in a country in turmoil with a wife and a newborn and risking his life. I definitely blame him for putting himself at risk.

Exactly.

On a side note,...if you ask other "Canadians" who pull stunts like him, what they are doing there,...

I'm supporting MY country !!!

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[blackrock13]

its not democracy. Mobocracy more like it.

Violent protests rarely result in true democracy. Think French Revolution and Russian overthrow of Tzar, and Tiananmen square in 1996.

Democracy is a peaceful and lawful process achieved by a civilized public whose members are mostly well informed, reasonably educated, and especially NOT blindly driven by religious fundamentalism to hatreds of the disbelievers. Throwing stones, occupying public spaces, setting cars on fire are not symbols of democracy. I think people in that region all need anger management classes. Taking it to the streets shouting Ala's name, and throwing stones are not going to change a thing, only going to make your life more miserable. Regardless of the cause, joining such violence is both immoral to the region and to self.

Actually democracy in its most basic term is mobocrat. My gang is bigger than yours, so we win. As for being 'well informed' it's probably more like more informed. It's a well documented fact that barely half the population of canada and the US actually know how their perspective governments work.

The mob, hasn't got to the point of realizing that this kind of action keep the tourists away affecting Egypt's economy, excess of $14 billion. The service industry involves ~50% of the economy.

 

[gtamassage]

I know a lot of people from Egypt that come get citizenship and use it as crutch when live at native home. My gut say this guy not different. Maybe Cuba a better vacation. This guy sound like Darwin candidates.

 

[George The Curious]

Actually democracy in its most basic term is mobocrat. My gang is bigger than yours, so we win. As for being 'well informed' it's probably more like more informed. It's a well documented fact that barely half the population of canada and the US actually know how their perspective governments work.

The emphasis is on the "most basic". Modern democracy has long evolved from just the raw count. It also involves reasoning, public debate, in the interests of the whole community which includes both sides of opposing political camps. If some members of public is too ignorant to understand what's going on, they should let educated experts to represent them - ie. elected local MPs to parliament whom locals trust represents their interests.
What is happening in Egypt, much like the French revolution in late 18 century is not a political reform for the best of the country, it's just chaos and war, and nothing good will come out of it.

The mob, hasn't got to the point of realizing that this kind of action keep the tourists away affecting Egypt's economy, excess of $14 billion. The service industry involves ~50% of the economy.

This is a small compared to the human costs, but then again, the mob is just a mob, you can't expect them to understand it.

 

[Fromspace]

I'm very sorry about our Canadian friend who died but that was a very risky move if not pure stupidity on his part. He knew full well that there's no such thing as peaceful protest in Cairo, and I'm sure the Canadian government has a travel advisory but does a vacationer really need one FFS?

He defied government forces with b**********y if not impunity, but one trigger-happy soldier followed his dictator's orders and shot him in cold blood.

Wish we can condemn all such forces and their leader as war criminals.

I feel more sorry for his wife and child.

I have to side with GIPDEAL and others who believed that Mr Hussein did not do a smart thing by hitting the streets while visiting family in Egypt. I think he was both imprudent and naïve and he's paid a huge price by getting killed. Protesting in Toronto streets is a far cry from protesting in Egypt and Syria. It's night and day when you consider the risks involved.

I feel very badly for his wife and child.

 

[Butler1000]

I find it difficult to believe he was on Vacation. I find it much easier to believe he went over there to become politically active. And yes. Took his family with him.

The Canadian Govt, other than seeing to the safe return to canada if the family choses too, really doesn't need to comment on this.

 

[fuji]

LDemocracy is a peaceful and lawful process achieved by a civilized public whose members are mostly well informed, reasonably educated, and especially NOT blindly driven by religious fundamentalism to hatreds of the disbelievers. Throwing stones, occupying public spaces, setting cars on fire are not symbols of democracy.

Actually those things have been common sights in every democracy I know of. In Canada, in the US, in France, and Britain. The race riots in the US and Vietnam era anti war movement, the poll tax protests in the UK, the Occupy protests, in Canada the Ipperwash and Oka stand-offs, as well as the G20. I can go on and on and on.

Really what you are saying is that it is not democracy when you personally disagree with the beliefs of the majority. That is just wrong.

People are confusing two different and only indirectly related concepts here, democracy and civil rights. The MB was doing well on the democratic front, but poorly on civil rights. All Egyptian governments have done poorly on civil rights.

For another example of a nation that did well on democracy and poorly on civil rights, see the United States prior to the Emancipation Proclamation.

In modern western nations democracy and civil rights are ideologically linked these days, but it has not always been so, and there is no required link between them. Some nations do civil rights well without being democratic (Singapore) and here we had Egypt being pretty democratic but performing poorly on civil rights.

I personally believe that democratic nations improve their civil rights over time, abd that this would have happened in Egypt, slowly, had it remained democratic instead of having that coup.

 

[nobody123]

AAArrrgghhh! The stupid, it burns!

Hurrrr durrrr, teh Muslin terrist got what he deserved, hurrr durrr.

Have any of you even read the fucking news item? Dude was born and raised in fucking Toronto.

 

[destillat]

Have any of you even read the fucking news item? Dude was born and raised in fucking Toronto.

which automatically means that he is NOT a muslim... NOR an extremist

 

[fuji]

There are quite a few Egyptian Canadians who have gone back to Egypt on vacation (from their job) to support the democracy movement in Egypt. This guy also had family there and no doubt he was visiting them too.

Certainly he involved himself politically, and he got shot by a sniper for doing so.

 

[Aardvark154]

This is interrelated with being a dual national.

When you are in the state of your other nationality Canada has no say (even if we would very much like to) in how you are treated since the other state can say but they are a Ruritanian, Canada has no say in Ruritanian domestic affairs. Likewise in Canada you murder your neighbor because you say that they insulted you Ruritanian sense of honour. To bad, Canadian law applies, and the Consulate of Ruritania has no right to see you.

 

[fuji]

he deserved what he got. The sniper probably did us a favour. Wonder if his wife will go all-inclusive next time?

Troll.

 

[Curious36]

I read the title quickly and thought someone shot Canada Man. I know he has his enemies but this seemed a bit much.....

 

[canada-man]

I would never go to one of these hotspots for vacation with a nine month old baby and a wife. Wtf?

Amr Kassem, vacationing in Egypt with his wife and young daughter, was shot and killed while peacefully protesting in Alexandria.

Asmaa Hussein couldn’t stop calling her husband Amr Kassem to make sure he was safe.
The Toronto resident was in the streets of the Egyptian city of Alexandria Friday, protesting the killing of hundreds during a bloody military crackdown in Cairo earlier in the week. He had just attended the funeral of a protester shot in those clashes when he joined the crowd.

Don’t worry, Kassem reassured his wife over and over. It’s a peaceful protest. He would come home soon to her and their 9-month-old daughter Ruqaya.

The wife wants the Canadian government to strongly condemn what happened.

Photo
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013/08/16/toronto_man_killed_by_sniper_in_egyptian_clashes.html

Wife Of Canadian Resident Killed In Egypt Amr Kassem Helped Run Radical AlMaghrib Institute, AKA Jihad U, Toronto Branch

http://blazingcatfur.blogspot.ca/2013/08/wife-of-canadian-resident-killed-in.html

 

[fuji]

Wife Of Canadian Resident Killed In Egypt Amr Kassem Helped Run Radical AlMaghrib Institute, AKA Jihad U, Toronto Branch

http://blazingcatfur.blogspot.ca/2013/08/wife-of-canadian-resident-killed-in.html

It's an Islamic school. What on earth makes you think it is radical? I looked around their website and just saw a bunch of typical religious school stuff. No hint of violent jihadist stuff.

 

[canada-man]

Michael Coren investigates the Canadian man killed in Egypt and finds that he had links to radical Islamic groups who push Sharia law.

http://blazingcatfur.blogspot.ca/2013/08/canadian-killed-in-egypt-had-fanatical.html

at 7 minutes Tarek Fatah gives more information

 

[fuji]

Michael Coren investigates the Canadian man killed in Egypt and finds that he had links to radical Islamic groups who push Sharia law.

http://blazingcatfur.blogspot.ca/2013/08/canadian-killed-in-egypt-had-fanatical.html

at 7 minutes Tarek Fatah gives more information

Is pushing sharia law now punishable by death? I have no doubt that he was protesting in support of the MB because he believed in what they wanted to do.

How does that make it ok to shoot him?

Is it now open season in anyone who believes in sharia law?

 

[canada-man]

Is pushing sharia law now punishable by death? I have no doubt that he was protesting in support of the MB because he believed in what they wanted to do.

How does that make it ok to shoot him?

Is it now open season in anyone who believes in sharia law?

nobody said it is ok to shoot him.

 

[fuji]

nobody said it is ok to shoot him.

Then what was your point?

 

[SkyRider]

he had links to radical Islamic groups who push Sharia law.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia
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