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Canadiens fire martin; cunneyworth named interim head coach

Relic

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Montreal could have a coach that spoke French plus 5 other languages and the team would still suck!
 

Ironhead

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Boston wins 3-2 in regulation.
 

shack

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I understand the significance of having a French speaking coach to speak with the media, thereby relaying their thoughts to the general population.

But is there zero tolerance to English coaches? If they hire 6 or 7 consecutive French coaches, how heretical is it to throw in an Anglo once in a while. As Doug MacLean pointed out, it is impossible for the team to claim they are going to hire the best coach available because they are so severely limiting themselves.

How many experienced French speaking coaches are available? Probably a Francophone will have very limited pro experience. Is honour more important than wins?

May Oracle or maurice or the Nose guy can give us a fan's perspective.
 

The Oracle

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I'm surprised they didn't bring back Michel Therrien.

But obviously Patrick Roy is the heir to the throne in Hab land.

Tonight they came up short but actually played very well and gave the Bruins all that they could handle in the 3rd period.

Thomas is on quite a run and could make any team a Stanley Cup favourite at this juncture.
 

Doot

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Patrick Roy is rumoured to be the next Montreal Canadiens coach. Prerequisite: French
 

kirmit129

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I understand the significance of having a French speaking coach to speak with the media, thereby relaying their thoughts to the general population.

But is there zero tolerance to English coaches? If they hire 6 or 7 consecutive French coaches, how heretical is it to throw in an Anglo once in a while. As Doug MacLean pointed out, it is impossible for the team to claim they are going to hire the best coach available because they are so severely limiting themselves.

How many experienced French speaking coaches are available? Probably a Francophone will have very limited pro experience. Is honour more important than wins?

May Oracle or maurice or the Nose guy can give us a fan's perspective.
Most fans actually don't care if the coach does not speak French. If the Habs win, the coach can speak Klingon for all we care. That's also true for the players. I think this French requirement thing is from barking groups that are twisting the facts. They claim fans have issues with a none French speaking coach yet posts on the internet seem to suggest otherwise. Most fans just want their team to win.
 

Ironhead

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The coach has to speak french in Montreal.
That is what all the fans, media and politicos want. He has to speak french.
Heard one of the owners, plain as day, throw the current coach under the bus. Said something to the effect of 'we will find a french speaking coach, this guy will not be here long'.
 

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I didn't say he had value, I said he would be gone soon. The team will buy him out, he's not playing now and he is not missed. They should have got Turris but that made too much sense I guess. Oh yes the leafs rule still only 3-4 points ahead of the Habs who have been horrible all year.

He doesn't have any value with a huge contact. The Habs are doomed until next season.........

LEAFS RULE !!!!;)
 

Doot

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Okay..they can put him on waivers. If you can speak french then you can coach the team.
 

maurice93

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Okay..they can put him on waivers. If you can speak french then you can coach the team.
Yes let's look at all those horrible French coaches they were forced to hire. Look at the garbage over the last 30 years. The only reason they got a job was because they were French, and would never have success anywhere.

Jacques Lemaire
Jean Perron (won cup)
Pat Burns
Jacques Demers
Mario Tremblay
Alain Vigneault
Michel Therrien
Claude Julien
Guy Carbonneau
Jacques Martin


Compare that to the Leafs and their policy of hiring great ENGLISH coaches who are not stupid poutine eating pepsi drinkers.

Dan Maloney
John Brophy
Doug Carpenter
Tom Watt
Pat Burns
Mike Murphy
Pat Quinn
Paul Maurice
Ron Wilson

Other then Pat Burns, who was given a chance by Montreal in the first place, what Leaf coach has ever had success elsewhere after leaving the Leafs.... like a Lemaire, Burns, Vigneault, Julien or Therrien. Or won a cup like a Demers or a Perron. Or won first in the conference like Carbonneau.
 

maurice93

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I understand the significance of having a French speaking coach to speak with the media, thereby relaying their thoughts to the general population.

But is there zero tolerance to English coaches? If they hire 6 or 7 consecutive French coaches, how heretical is it to throw in an Anglo once in a while. As Doug MacLean pointed out, it is impossible for the team to claim they are going to hire the best coach available because they are so severely limiting themselves.

How many experienced French speaking coaches are available? Probably a Francophone will have very limited pro experience. Is honour more important than wins?

May Oracle or maurice or the Nose guy can give us a fan's perspective.
I don't really like being lumped in with Nose Guy but anyway.

As a fan, I wish the Habs would just get the best coach available. Who cares what they speak.

I will say this the inexperiences coaches they have hired over the past 30 years have been incredibly successful (but not always In Montreal). Guys like Lemaire, Perron, Burns, Vigneault, Julien, Therrien -- they really had the ability to identify great coaches. Even Carbo had great success in his second year with a young team (that quickly fell apart afterwards). Of course they are inexperienced when they start.

Not sure where the next French coach is, but if they go with a newbie, history dictates they will get a good coach. Maybe its a good thing, that there are no French speaking retreads out there right now. God knows there are plenty of English retreads that seemed to get passed around over and over.
 

maurice93

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The list of Montreal vs Toronto coaches, brings up the debate -- is it better to hire inexperienced but good prospect coaches or experienced unemployed coaches?

Another thing the list indicates is that the real problem in Montreal may not be the need to hire French coaches, but that the media pressure runs good coaches out of town way too early.
 

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Hire a winning coach and nobody is going to care what he looks like or what language he speaks.

Maybe a Russian coach?
 

Ironhead

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In Montreal, if the coach was Russian that might be OK, but not english.
If the coach can only speak english then he will get thrown under the bus by the owner. Media and fans will whine forever. They cannot handle an english coach in Montreal.
 

Ironhead

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maurice93

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In Montreal, if the coach was Russian that might be OK, but not english.
If the coach can only speak english then he will get thrown under the bus by the owner. Media and fans will whine forever. They cannot handle an english coach in Montreal.
How do you know that.... my impression is that media and fans can't really handle any coach after three years because of too high expectations.
 

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True fact, the biggest asshole named Mario Tremblay got Patrick Roy outta Montreal packing after embarrassing him on national television. An English speaking coach would get fired and Patrick Roy would've finished his career in Montreal. Colorado wouldn't have a cup.
 

Ironhead

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True fact, the biggest asshole named Mario Tremblay got Patrick Roy outta Montreal packing after embarrassing him on national television. An English speaking coach would get fired and Patrick Roy would've finished his career in Montreal. Colorado wouldn't have a cup.
I remember that night. Roy with his arms up in the air in a sarcastic answer to the idiot Montreal fans and their mock cheer. Shuffling past Tremblay to get to Corey to deliver his famous message. 'I have played my last game for this team' and several days later he was traded to Colorado and they went on to win the Cup.
Montreal has yet to recover from that night. What have they done since ? Besides one fluky run a year or two ago.

Pat Roy coach of Montreal. I do want to see that.
 
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