I'm not sure why you continue to think China is interested in supporting Canadian manufacturing.
You might be dreaming of BRICCS.
Carney casts doubt on Canada securing a tariff-free deal with Trump
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You might be dreaming of BRICCS.
Mark Carney reminds me of a company call with the CEO discussing the goals and future of the organization. And everyone is half asleep like "Yeah yeah, Hurry up with your BS."
squeeze, you don't want to be the guy who brags about the $10 stuffed animal he spent $20 to win.
At least, you got to know the Carney running the game.
If Carney is another four years of Trudeau, it's Trudeau 2.0h fuck, that hurts.
Because all of those become harder with Trump in office.
You insisted he was harmless. (When you weren't arguing he was better.)
So yeah, I wanted to advance on this hard work.
You said "fuck it, let's make it worse".
They are.
I kept telling you that.
You insisted that making it worse and harder would be a good idea.
You're right,.
So why make things worse instead of going in for the long haul that this requires?
I don't know.
But you seemed committed to it.
What test has AOC failed?
(I don't follow the social media fever swamps that you swim in.)
Do you even know who Huey Long was?
Nope, I said lets do the hard work before the election so there is a real choice or a candidate that was electable. You said it was pragmatic to just vote for the establishment cuz otherwise trump would get elected. That didn't work out so well.
And yet your plan got trump elected.
Here you are still arguing that was a good idea.
Here in Canada our best option is a lib/ndp minority but even the ndp has been drifting to the right. Its still possible here to pressure them and work within them to moderate and with Carney moving towards austerity that becomes a reasonable path.
In the states the biggest chance was when there were mass protests against Harris and the genocide. Now the dems are messed up and seem more serious about shutting down the progressives. If the Pelosi side maintains control then change becomes near impossible.
She is getting flack for voting against MTG's bill to cut a tiny bit of funding for Israeli genocide.
Mandami seems more the litmus test now, he pushes more progressive views. I know, its just NY but he has become the face of progressive dems now.
Of course, wrote the 'heart of rock and roll'.
Really, you ask some dumb questions sometimes.
That’s not true, GM absorbed much of the tariffs on Trucks, $1b worth. US has collected $100b in tariff revenue and the forecast for 2025 is now $300b
Yes, because it was pragmatic.
This is hard work.
It's funny how you admit NOW that it is too hard to do and how could anyone accomplish anything we should just give up, but then you thought if everyo0ne just wished really hard, magically things would be fixed.
I know you seem to think "if you do this thing, it all works out" is how the world works, but some of us aren't so silly.
My plan didn't get Trump elected.
I know you have trouble understanding how the world works, but some day you will need to abandon your magical thinking.
The biggest chance to stop rich people having power was protests against Harris?
Amazing.
Got it.
So you are in the "it must get worse before it gets better" camp, now?
There's no way to exert pressure?
I mean.
You did declare that the Democrats losing would make them learn their lesson and become what you want.
Now you are saying that didn't work out for you?
I see.
She's not siding with Marjorie Taylor Green, so she's failing.
Gotcha.
Which is, of course, risky.
This is what they did with AOC as well - turn her into "the face of the movement".
It elevates their profile, but also puts the target on their back.
One of the reasons AOC became so big was that the right wing hyper her so hard.
They're doing the same with Mandami, although this time the NY Dem old school machine has a lot more of the blame, since they are being complete idiots in how they are reacting to this primary.
The real danger looks like Adams dropping out. If he does, would that be enough to nudge Cuomo back over the top?
I feel that if Cuomo drops out, Mandami takes it in a cakewalk.
I see.
Avoiding the question.
So let's try an easier one for you.
By " Will all reform suffer a Huey Long end now " are you saying reform will be assassinated?
The dream that was Huey Long being killed is a thing to be mourned, I suppose?
So then GM shareholders, who are US consumers, will bear that cost. And probably workers, also US consumers, when contract negotiations come up.
As for the other 99 billion. It will be passed along. Walmart already has been raising prices. Then the small e-commerce retailers via Amazon and the like have done so, eaten some cost(and as they are also consumers, that money won't circulate), others are suspending, or closing up shop. Reducing or eliminating their consumers footprint.
It's all as you say, going into the US treasury. Right? You know, that place of waste and fraud and corruption.
Btw, the US tourism industry is expected to take a 90 billion hit, only about 12ish billion is international. Which means about 80 billion in lost domestic revenue circulation. Vegas in reporting a huge downturn. Florida is under an exodus.
Wait until the poor spending numbers by Christmas. The hurt hasn't really begun.
I find it sad that you think the hard work should start now and that you won't admit that it should have been done during the first year of the genocide and the election.
We had this discussion through 2024 and not once did you think there should be any pressure to change the dems.
This is a change in direction from you.
trump was elected.
Denying that what you backed failed to win the election and that the largest protests since Floyd George might have impacted the election is magical thinking.
Straw man argument, your specialty.
How can people have honest discussions with you when constantly use this tactic?
The biggest chance for change over the last few years was riding the very massive and public protests against Biden's policy during 2024.
You could argue that the dems have fallen apart and now would be a good time to rebuild them, if you were more interested in discussion than scoring points, but where is that pressure coming from now?
Different issues.
Reform in the dems to back the more progressive policies that their voters back is possible, and now would be the time for the push for that to happen.
Reform from the Citizens United/plutocracy is less likely. But you might get someone who will push to replace some medicaid funding or another tax break on mortgages.
I know your focus is on the best way to count the votes, but not on the systemic issues that are the real major problems.
Even now you appear to be arguing for the status quo and not change.
As in:
Of course you think this is about siding with MTG and not support of the genocide.
That's your own bias and a prime example of you backing partisanship over policy. You say you back reform then try to declare its not right to vote based on issues, just party.
Interesting isn't it that its the right wing who elevated AOC and now Mandami? It shows how messed up the dems are that they are afraid of being identified with someone who backs policies the people back.
More the fact that Huey Long is a sidenote to history, to the point where you felt you had to even ask if I knew who he was.
There are no left wing heroes in the US, are there? There would never be a Robin Hood type, give it to the poor, type hero. Just more and more 'eat the rich', Bonny and Clyde antiheroes.
If this is the chance for reform, who will lead the dems and push for what voters want?
Not sure if you don't realize this is one huge photo op for Carney?You really think he has been seeking out photo ops? Stunt photos? I really only ever see him, briefcase in hand, acting like a normal business dude.
Post a Trudeauish idiotic photo op. Sure he did say the usual Calgary Stampede rounds that they all do. But he isn't a narcissist.
Dude, that's about as stard as it gets. On a factory floor, suit, hard hat and safety gear? What politicians haven't taken that one?Carney is well on his way of being the Photo Op King.
Give him time.
Where are the costumes?
Cripes I didn't see that one. I suppose I will give him a 25% pass being an obvious Oiler fan due to his upbringing.Remember when Carney scored 50 goals in 39 games?
But not looking good there.
At least it isn't culturally insulting to another nation. Just a bit of a facepalm for a goofy dad moment.
