Correct me if I'm wrong. You believe wherever his spirit may be he's saying, 'whoa, cool, this is exactly what I wanted'?
Charlie Kirk Shot in the Neck in Utah (Update: Shooter Alt-right links)
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Is this posted to a higher standard?
Seems like a good time to try to tone it all down a bit.
The guy got killed, I personally think he had shitty views but nobody should be killed just for being an asshole.
Hope they catch the person that did it and he is put on trial.
When I got home and heard the news, I was too curious to see what the thread on here would be like.
Honestly much less batshit than I expected.
Out in the wider world, we're already seeing the spin and conspiracy theorizing:
No one knows shit yet, of course.
We don't know if it was a political hit or just attention seeking.
There is a good chance it was political of course, he focused on youth politics and the youth have grown up under trump and so are far more likely to believe violence is an appropriate way to deal with political problems.
If it was political, we don't know what the politics of the shooter were and may never know if they aren't caught. (And even then.)
Kirk will be wildly sane-washed by the press, and the right-wing will go even further to sanitize him, they aren't going to waste a good martyr opportunity.
I expect this will get WAY more press and longer legs than any other political attacks so far this year.
While from everything I've seen of him, he seems like a pretty vile person, stochastic terrorism in general is bad for the country and plays more into the hands of extremists and authoritarians in general, no matter the target or the motivation of the shooter. Nothing good is likely to come of this, and much bad.
Honestly much less batshit than I expected.
Out in the wider world, we're already seeing the spin and conspiracy theorizing:
- It was someone who is trans
- They promised him they would fake an attempt like with Trump but then missed or double-crossed him
- Security was deliberately pulled
- The first guy was the shooter, but the evil Deep State forced the cops to cover it up
No one knows shit yet, of course.
We don't know if it was a political hit or just attention seeking.
There is a good chance it was political of course, he focused on youth politics and the youth have grown up under trump and so are far more likely to believe violence is an appropriate way to deal with political problems.
If it was political, we don't know what the politics of the shooter were and may never know if they aren't caught. (And even then.)
Kirk will be wildly sane-washed by the press, and the right-wing will go even further to sanitize him, they aren't going to waste a good martyr opportunity.
I expect this will get WAY more press and longer legs than any other political attacks so far this year.
While from everything I've seen of him, he seems like a pretty vile person, stochastic terrorism in general is bad for the country and plays more into the hands of extremists and authoritarians in general, no matter the target or the motivation of the shooter. Nothing good is likely to come of this, and much bad.
I'm not religious, so I don't believe any of it, but Kirk claimed to be; therefore, in his mind, early this morning, while still alive, he would be in a happy place in death. Tell me anything I've stated here is incorrect.Correct me if I'm wrong. You believe wherever his spirit may be he's saying, 'whoa, cool, this is exactly what I wanted'?
Jesus will give Charlie a super hot trad wife in heaven and she'll cook him turkey dinner every night.
The sane-washing is already going strong in this thread.
I think things are going to get worse and there will be lots of fresh tinder being added to the fire.
Charlie was also the primary organizing person. How that vacuum is filled will be far more important than memes in a year+.
"Protect Ya Neck"
This is exactly why he really needs all of our thoughts and prayers right now.
So his support of the 2nd amendment meant he wanted to be killed with a gun. On a stage. On a hot sunny day. In front of the world. Leaving his kids fatherless.
Seriously, this will be my last reply to you. Trying to make you see the error of your ways and your obtuse ignorance just lowers my value as a human being.
I've never said any of this. Please quote me in this thread stating any of this. At the very least, don't make shit up. I know it is the rightie thing to do but please be honest.
No.
But he was an unempathetic, cruel person himself.
As I said in a different post, he was vile, hateful and created endless rage against one minority population or another.
Which is why apart from saying that this killing is sad, no one is able to say anything actually good about him.
The shooting involving Charlie Kirk is exactly the type of flashpoint that Donald Trump thrives on. At a moment when he is buried under legal challenges, public scrutiny, and the weight of his own controversies, an incident like this offers him a stage to redirect the national conversation. Instead of urging calm or restraint, Trump is far more likely to seize on this tragedy as an opportunity, to inflame his most loyal followers, to rally the MAGA movement, and to encourage fringe groups such as the Proud Boys to see themselves as soldiers in a political war.
For Trump, unrest is not a risk to be avoided, it’s an asset to be exploited. His political career has been built on polarization and grievance, and he knows that nothing hardens loyalty like a sense of shared persecution. By framing this incident as evidence of a wider conspiracy or as proof that his movement is under attack, he can distract from his own failings while stoking a dangerous cycle of anger and retaliation.
The greater danger is that Trump doesn’t care where this leads. If his rhetoric contributes to riots, if it sparks violence, even if it edges the country closer to civil conflict, those are costs he is willing to impose on others for his own survival. In this way, the shooting is not just a tragedy in isolation, but a potential accelerant in America’s already volatile political climate.
This may simply be a mis guided individual acting alone and is not any anything to do with politics.
For Trump, unrest is not a risk to be avoided, it’s an asset to be exploited. His political career has been built on polarization and grievance, and he knows that nothing hardens loyalty like a sense of shared persecution. By framing this incident as evidence of a wider conspiracy or as proof that his movement is under attack, he can distract from his own failings while stoking a dangerous cycle of anger and retaliation.
The greater danger is that Trump doesn’t care where this leads. If his rhetoric contributes to riots, if it sparks violence, even if it edges the country closer to civil conflict, those are costs he is willing to impose on others for his own survival. In this way, the shooting is not just a tragedy in isolation, but a potential accelerant in America’s already volatile political climate.
This may simply be a mis guided individual acting alone and is not any anything to do with politics.
Maybe from a political perspective but I'm sure his loved ones had plenty of good to say about him.
