Everyone in this thread is judging and forming opinions on what they see in the news and read, even you.Mcluhan said:
For whatever reason some get defensive when someone disagrees with them and they put people down, either directly or indirectly.
Charlie Sheen questions 9/11!!!!!
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For whatever reason some get defensive when someone disagrees with them and they put people down, either directly or indirectly.
Not at all, I stand by what I write, I am open minded and I do not mind admitting when I am wrongMcluhan said:I think you're being defensive over someone disagreeing with you.
In the story of the five Israelis I do not see how anyone could conclude that Israel knew of the attacks as a fact, they could believe it if they want, but there are many who are using that story as factual proof, which I think is a wrong thing to do.
Roman Law Verses Common Law
Sometimes life's impressions do not lend themselves to forensic analysis. It just is what it it is. In this case, the scene points my instincts to magnetic North. Where it points for you, is equally arguable. Its a case of judging perspectives in reality. We have judged differently.
It can also be noted that you, not I, started this dialogue with a put down, and then snivelled when I shot back. So let's just agree to disagree like men, shall we?
Thanks...
I agree with non 'factual proof' statement. I suppose the fact they were jumping up and down and filming from a vantage point is probably just display of supremely bad taste, and it could be just a coincidence their position was a matter of fortuitous right-place-right-time.dreamer said:
Sometimes life's impressions do not lend themselves to forensic analysis. It just is what it it is. In this case, the scene points my instincts to magnetic North. Where it points for you, is equally arguable. Its a case of judging perspectives in reality. We have judged differently.
It can also be noted that you, not I, started this dialogue with a put down, and then snivelled when I shot back. So let's just agree to disagree like men, shall we?
Thanks...
I never snivell but I did not want to go into a long analysis of your "cozy perspective" comment
I suppose the putdown you are referring to was when you posted
Originally Posted by Mcluhan
I believe the Israelis knew about the plan, probably down to the minutiae. Why I think so, is because they only lost 2 people in the episode, and these guys were on the planes, probably a result of ordinary misfortune. Look at the Nationalities that lost people
and posts like that do make me wonder
I suppose the putdown you are referring to was when you posted
Originally Posted by Mcluhan
I believe the Israelis knew about the plan, probably down to the minutiae. Why I think so, is because they only lost 2 people in the episode, and these guys were on the planes, probably a result of ordinary misfortune. Look at the Nationalities that lost people
and posts like that do make me wonder
Then do some research on how many Israeli nationals were typically working at the WTC... especially in the banking sector, verses say Mainland Chinese...use some common sense...dreamer said:
Actually I did, because of your post.Mcluhan said:
I went and found a list nationalities based on citizenship. That is where I found that only two Chinese nationals were killed, as well as two Israelies.
I could not find a list of religious affiliations and I can understand someone not posting it, however I did scan the lists of all those killed and many "jewish" names appeared.
I also read an article on one of the "conspiracy" sites that claimed that most jewish workers in the WTC were warned not to go to work that day, which is an outright fabrication if they just took the time to "research" as you put it.
Since you have obviously done the research how many Israeli nationals worked at the WTC, how many did not go to work that day and was it unusual, and how many escaped the towers that day. Many jewish people died in the WTC but they had American citizenship verses being listed as Israeli.
Ed Asner, James Woods, Dean Haglund and many other famous people come forward questioning the official story of 9/11.
Read the article here:
http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/asner_on_cnn.htm
And Sharon Stone defends Charlie Sheen's right on his position.
Video Here:
http://infowars.com/articles/sept11/sheen_showbiz_sharon_stone.htm
Read the article here:
http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/asner_on_cnn.htm
And Sharon Stone defends Charlie Sheen's right on his position.
Video Here:
http://infowars.com/articles/sept11/sheen_showbiz_sharon_stone.htm
There's a documentary on this topic that proves it without a doubht that the us goverment did it, i'll get you guys the name, see if you can get the video and watch it yourself and decide. Most people that i've showed it to couldn't believe it but some others said i already knew it.
infowars.com is a totally slanted website, however it is good that people question what happened, but in my opinion the real story is the coverup of why the US was not prepared and why they responded so poorlyRick123 said:
the question of how the intelligence failed so badly in the WTC attack and how they were so wrong about Iraq are valid questions and should be asked
I hate to blow away yet another well concieved conspiracy theory but...
The testimony of Zacarias Moussaoui seems to blow the shit out Charlie Sheen’s theory. I can’t imagine why. I’m sure Charlie knows what he’s talking about not!
http://sympaticomsn.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060327/moussaoui_defence_060327
The testimony of Zacarias Moussaoui seems to blow the shit out Charlie Sheen’s theory. I can’t imagine why. I’m sure Charlie knows what he’s talking about
not!http://sympaticomsn.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060327/moussaoui_defence_060327
Thank you for doing some home work. Respect.dreamer said:
This is not about being jewish. Nor am I anti-semitic. Israeli's are a group unto themselves. This is more about Israel's ability in the intel business...and their national requirments for their citizens. And the political goals of the Lukid for the region..the road map...etc.
The theory that the U.S. government did this is absolutely and completely absurd IMO.
Just as there's no such thing as a perfect murder, there's also no perfect conspiracy plot.
Someone would've talked by now and offered solid evidence.
This hasnt happened and people like Sheen are just offering flimsy evidence such as the building collapsed too perfectly
Does Charlie have a degree in engineering??? Does he have any experience in demolition of buildings (large buildings like the WTC)????
I suspect he doesnt, so his paranoid little mind starts to take over and things become foggy.
Just as there's no such thing as a perfect murder, there's also no perfect conspiracy plot.
Someone would've talked by now and offered solid evidence.
This hasnt happened and people like Sheen are just offering flimsy evidence such as the building collapsed too perfectly
Does Charlie have a degree in engineering??? Does he have any experience in demolition of buildings (large buildings like the WTC)????
I suspect he doesnt, so his paranoid little mind starts to take over and things become foggy.
Esco! said:The theory that the U.S. government did this is absolutely and completely absurd IMO.
Just as there's no such thing as a perfect murder, there's also no perfect conspiracy plot.
Someone would've talked by now and offered solid evidence.
This hasnt happened and people like Sheen are just offering flimsy evidence such as the building collapsed too perfectly
Does Charlie have a degree in engineering??? Does he have any experience in demolition of buildings (large buildings like the WTC)????
I suspect he doesnt, so his paranoid little mind starts to take over and things become foggy.
Wake up and smell the coffe, you don't know half the story.
And I listened to the radio that day, and heard reports about armed militants roaming manhattan, shooting people.WoodPeckr said:
They were wrong, perhaps?
NEWSFLASH! There was a lot of shit happening, and announcers knew squat! They latch on to whatever crap they hear, and report it.
During the blackout, there were reports of terrorist attacks on various generating plants. Same deal.
Sheen's Conspiracy Theory
Actor Charlie Sheen isn't quite satisfied with the official explanation for the fall of the World Trade Center towers and thinks that the U.S. government covered up what really happened. In a recent interview on The Alex Jones Show on the GGN network, Sheen said he doesn't totally believe that terrorists were solely responsible for the attacks on the U.S. back on September 11, 2001, and that he believes the Twin Towers fell as a result of "controlled demolition."
On the program, Sheen was quoted as saying, "It seems to me like 19 amateurs with box-cutters taking over four commercial airliners and hitting 75 percent of their targets, that feels like a conspiracy theory. It raises a lot of questions. A couple of years ago, it was severely unpopular to talk about any of this. It feels like from the people I talk to, and the research I've done and around my circles, it feels like the worm is turning."
In addition to questioning the attacks on New York City, Sheen would like to cast doubt over the facts behind the plane that crashed into the side of the Pentagon in Washington DC. He continued on the show, "Just show us how this particular plane pulled off these maneuvers... It is up to us to reveal the truth. It is up to us because we owe it to the families, we owe it to the victims, we owe it to everyone's life who was drastically altered, horrifically, that day and forever. We owe it to them to uncover what happened."
http://www.filmstew.com/Content/Article.asp?ContentID=13645&Pg=1
Actor Charlie Sheen isn't quite satisfied with the official explanation for the fall of the World Trade Center towers and thinks that the U.S. government covered up what really happened. In a recent interview on The Alex Jones Show on the GGN network, Sheen said he doesn't totally believe that terrorists were solely responsible for the attacks on the U.S. back on September 11, 2001, and that he believes the Twin Towers fell as a result of "controlled demolition."
On the program, Sheen was quoted as saying, "It seems to me like 19 amateurs with box-cutters taking over four commercial airliners and hitting 75 percent of their targets, that feels like a conspiracy theory. It raises a lot of questions. A couple of years ago, it was severely unpopular to talk about any of this. It feels like from the people I talk to, and the research I've done and around my circles, it feels like the worm is turning."
In addition to questioning the attacks on New York City, Sheen would like to cast doubt over the facts behind the plane that crashed into the side of the Pentagon in Washington DC. He continued on the show, "Just show us how this particular plane pulled off these maneuvers... It is up to us to reveal the truth. It is up to us because we owe it to the families, we owe it to the victims, we owe it to everyone's life who was drastically altered, horrifically, that day and forever. We owe it to them to uncover what happened."
http://www.filmstew.com/Content/Article.asp?ContentID=13645&Pg=1
And if you don't think so, then it MUST be true.Esco! said:Well if Charlie Sheen thinks so then there must be more to it then
And it's not just Charlie Sheen, he's just the most recent celebrity. There are dozens if not hundreds that have bravely come forward in the government, engineering field, University Profs, military etc. etc.
There are many links provided in this thread and many more if you would like to make a request.
