Charlie Sheen questions 9/11!!!!!

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dreamer said:
I am guessing here,
I said that you didnt know shit and you could not prove shit.

You called me an idiot.

I attepted to show you that i have reasons to believe differently and asked the most OBVIOUS question. Why lie about the exsistance of tapes and why not release them if nothing to hide. Why the 5 frame clip with the only pic of alleged flight 778 was a blurr behind communication a box. I also showed that others agree with my own analysis.

You said i have character issues?

I asked u again about the pics/evidence and provided information regarding my conclussions.

U said nothing relevant again.

Now that we have come full circle..... YOU STILL CANT PROVE SHIT and you are guessing at best. Just like the rest of us.

Can you finally admit it?
 

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slowandeasy said:
BTW... if it was not flight 77 that slammed into the Pentagon, where is flight 77?? Where are the passengers of flight 77???
Oh man im glad you brought that up, i was really hoping that dreamer was gonna walk into that one with his hard facts

Here is the thing, 99% of the plane allegedly "evaporated" (2nd time in history, flight 93 was first). The turbine engines... evaported. The tail section evaporated. The wings, evaported. The nose section, well after slamming through 4 rings of 20ft solid concrete and steel leaving a 16ft diameter hole, well u guessed it, it evaportaed too. But, 94% of all the victims were positively identified via DNA samples that you guessed it... were not evaporated.

Oh and the black boxes that were recovered, FBI Director Robert Mueller said that the voice data recorder contained nothing useful (can u fuckin believe this), it would imply that there are no words of the hijackers on the tape, which would once again reinforce our feeling that there is no evidence of hijackers. We'd like to have a independent and reputable expert look at the originals - perhaps what they do or do not contain is useful. Because, i am deeply suspicious of the FBI's withholding or burying all evidence related to Flight 77. Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld said the data on the cockpit voice data recorder was unrecoverable.

If the cockpit voice data recorder was unrecoverable, it would be the first time in aviation history a solid-state data recorder (the type used on Flight 77) was unrecoverable after a crash. From a Scientific American feature article lauding the "Better Black Box" in their September 2000 issue:

Nearly 100,000 flight recorders have been installed in commercial aircraft over the past four decades. The prices of the latest models generally range from $10,000 to $20,000. Their survival rate has greatly improved in recent years as the FAA has raised the certification requirements. Although older recorders using magnetic tape were susceptible to fire damage, no solid-state device has been destroyed in an accident to date.

Lawyers representing 9/11 victim families are attempting to use the Freedom of Information Act to obtain transcripts of the black-box data. See 9/11 Lawyers Seek Black-Box Data on Saudi Hijackers by Tom Flocco, which indicates the FBI are obstructing the NTSB review of the black box data.

Of course, if Flight 77 was not the plane involved in the Pentagon Attack, it's black boxes would presumably show that, and the government would be very reluctant to allow the data to be examined, or allow the NTSB to carry out the investigation of the crash that is required by law.

Too many historical firsts all on the Sept 11, 2001.
 

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anomandar said:
You called me an idiot
Yes I did, and I meant it :)

You said i have character issues?
You do, based on your rebuttal to me that was so eloquent

Here is the reason you are an idiot, because you do not even know that the so called "serious" conspiracists are moving away from the argument that flight 77 did not hit the pentagon. Why are they doing this, because of the mountain of evidence and that because by clinging to such rediculous beliefs they are hurting their other conspiracist's beliefs about the other events that day.
 

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Here is the reason you are an idiot, because you do not even know that the so called "serious" conspiracists are moving away from the argument that flight 77 did not hit the pentagon. Why are they doing this, because of the mountain of evidence and that because by clinging to such rediculous beliefs they are hurting their other conspiracist's beliefs about the other events that day.
Were talking about the Pentagon here, remember. This is suppose to be the Militarys HQ in the heart of Washington DC and I dont believe that the most powerful military, tech savy nation in the world was bested by a cave dwelling terrorist who employed the most under-skilled pilots that managed to pull off what FAA describes as "only maneauvers a military aircraft could make". The government will not release the evidence, it is blocking any and all investigations and will not allow a 3rd party to investigate and im the idiot?

I could care less what the conspiracist's beliefs are. I have my own. I do my own homework. I actully investigate this information.

You claim that there is a "mountain of evidence" but all i have seen is a computer generated simulation. Where is your mountain of evidence? I have been reviewing what the government claims as evidence and it does not hold water.
 

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anomandar said:
managed to pull off what FAA describes as "only maneauvers a military aircraft could make"
another reason why you are an idiot, you do not even know what the real quote is and how it was truncated to fit your biased world

You claim that there is a "mountain of evidence" but all i have seen is a computer generated simulation. Where is your mountain of evidence? I have been reviewing what the government claims as evidence and it does not hold water.
whoops, another reason you are an idiot

I do not mean to insult scroll99 by posting a link of a conspiracy site, but here you go

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/noplane/slides.html
 

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scroll99 said:
lol , so the only hard evidence you have is a conspiracy theory ???
An engineering reconstruction using solid modeling and physical evidence to determine the flight path is a "conspiracy theory" in your opinion? That explains a lot about you.

It is unfortunate that you are falling into the last refuge of someone who can not convince the opposition; trying to apply the weakness of your arguement to others. Too bad that it does not apply here. Can any of your crackpot theories explain how a missle took out so many street lights without destroying itself or acting like a "magic" missle? Excuse me if I believe in science.

Besides you are the one who first posted that vid!!! (obviously without watching it)
 

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anomandar said:
.... YOU STILL CANT PROVE SHIT and you are guessing at best. Just like the rest of us...
The best quote of the thread. The people trying to prove a conspiracy say that we can't prove what happened. The problem is, the simplified version of their arguement is that since officials can not answer every question conspiracy theorists have, all conspiracy theories must be true.

If it was really a movement for "truth" they would confine themselves to seeking the answers to questions, not proposing alternate ideas that are themselves unprovable. That in itself shows that the "truth" movement has decided beforehand what constitutes "truth" and will not consider contrary evidence in their quest.

Yes, there are a number of questions. Just don't waste our time with made up answers.
 

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another reason why you are an idiot, you do not even know what the real quote is and how it was truncated to fit your biased world
Im done trying to make a point with you. You offer nothing but bullshit remarks and insults to try and validate yourself. As much as i would like to continue this, I know to never argue with a moron, they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
 

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basketcase said:
The best quote of the thread. The people trying to prove a conspiracy say that we can't prove what happened.
Wtf do u think im trying to do?

Do u think im promoting the conspiracist's theories? I am not.

Im not saying it was a missle, nor am i trying to say it was a drone plane. ALL im saying is that it was NOT what the Government is telling us. The official version does not hold water. I never said i could prove what happened. I also asked to be proved wrong. Show me/us the video or pic of flight 77 hitting or even approaching the Pentagon. Do this and its case closed. I also said..

anomandar said:
I could care less what the conspiracist's beliefs are. I have my own. I do my own homework. I actully investigate this information.
So im not pushing and/or promoting any agenda except my own. My own personnal opinion is that in no way shape or form did Flight 77 hit the Pentagon. This is all i am sure of and i have come to this conclusion based on my OWN research.
 

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anomandar said:
Im done trying to make a point with you. You offer nothing but bullshit remarks and insults to try and validate yourself. As much as i would like to continue this, I know to never argue with a moron, they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
No, I just started calling you an idiot on this subject because you are.

But I give you credit, you are like the captain going down with the ship :)

You keep stating that there is no evidence of flight 77 hitting the pentagon when it is all around you.

However, just because conspiracists were wrong about what hit the pentagon does not mean their other questions are not valid.
 

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I dont believe that the most powerful military, tech savy nation in the world was bested by a cave dwelling terrorist who employed the most under-skilled pilots that managed to pull off what FAA describes as "only maneauvers a military aircraft could make". .
I guess that you do not believe that Jesus parted the red sea or anything else in the bible...
 

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slowandeasy said:
I guess that you do not believe that Jesus parted the red sea
No i do not, what u nut i must be.
 
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Jesus, Moses, no big difference?


ps. anomandar, when you take a part of a quote, it is standard form to indicate that it isn't a complete quote. (of course if you want to take the quote out of context, go ahead)
 

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An engineering reconstruction using solid modeling and physical evidence to determine the flight path is a "conspiracy theory" in your opinion? That explains a lot about you.

It is unfortunate that you are falling into the last refuge of someone who can not convince the opposition; trying to apply the weakness of your arguement to others. Too bad that it does not apply here. Can any of your crackpot theories explain how a missle took out so many street lights without destroying itself or acting like a "magic" missle? Excuse me if I believe in science.

Besides you are the one who first posted that vid!!! (obviously without watching it)
LOL ...LOL....

am i getting on your nerves ????, listen you joined the thread too late , to me its a dead thread now as the world is already convinced the truth is not yet out ... I have seen all the polls in the mainstream media .... but sometimes I will just peek in just for fun...or if some new info. comes out or may be I want to see basketcase's hairpulling ... LOL
 

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basketcase said:
ps. anomandar, when you take a part of a quote, it is standard form to indicate that it isn't a complete quote.

Or what?

Do i lose Terb points?

Lmfao
 

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slowandeasy said:
BTW... if it was not flight 77 that slammed into the Pentagon, where is flight 77?? Where are the passengers of flight 77???
Area 51? C'mon anomander, give us your best guess where they're hiding the plane...and all the people...and all the people who were in on it. Or maybe they just shot it down somewhere and nobody noticed. Surely you have some intriguing explanation for all this.
 

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Area 51? C'mon anomander, give us your best guess where they're hiding the plane...and all the people...and all the people who were in on it. Or maybe they just shot it down somewhere and nobody noticed. Surely you have some intriguing explanation for all this.

Who fucking knows man. Honestly! In operation NW's the strat was to have 2 planes meet then unload passengers and swap planes. (Cleaveland Hijack Incident) At one point i was thinking that the 2 planes that hit the WTC are the only 2 planes (Voice recorded cell phone call "omg i see water n buildings) that were in reality involved. Flight 77 and 93 were the WTC weapons and the whatever hit the Pentagon were fabrication planes and in actuality cruise missles or modified drone plane of some sort. Of course the FAA records and recordings would explain everything and prove that im nut bar but hey we mere civialins are not allowed such information. Nor can we see for ourselves any recordings, video/audiouble/computerized data regarding these 2 flights. Everything at WTC np except the actaul debris and rubble, that had to be buried and recycled asap.

Im conclusion..... i dont really know, with out all the actual information, records and video, we will never know. The 911 Commision was a joke +10 and untill a 3rd party, non-government inquiry is establisehed and allowed to actually investiagte we will never know. Check out my other posts in this thread, the Gov is hiding shit and cockblocking on a massive scale. There is no reason right? Nothing to hide so wtf is going on then. Can u sopport this idea, care to help me rant about a real investigation and the release of information?
 

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anomandar said:
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Do u think im promoting the conspiracist's theories? I am not.
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anomandar said:
... At one point i was thinking that the 2 planes that hit the WTC are the only 2 planes (Voice recorded cell phone call "omg i see water n buildings) that were in reality involved. ...

Don't worry, you are not the first poster to contadict yourself in this thread.
 

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Who fucking knows man. Honestly! In operation NW's the strat was to have 2 planes meet then unload passengers and swap planes. (Cleaveland Hijack Incident) At one point i was thinking that the 2 planes that hit the WTC are the only 2 planes (Voice recorded cell phone call "omg i see water n buildings) that were in reality involved. Flight 77 and 93 were the WTC weapons and the whatever hit the Pentagon were fabrication planes and in actuality cruise missles or modified drone plane of some sort. Of course the FAA records and recordings would explain everything and prove that im nut bar but hey we mere civialins are not allowed such information. Nor can we see for ourselves any recordings, video/audiouble/computerized data regarding these 2 flights. Everything at WTC np except the actaul debris and rubble, that had to be buried and recycled asap.

Im conclusion..... i dont really know, with out all the actual information, records and video, we will never know. The 911 Commision was a joke +10 and untill a 3rd party, non-government inquiry is establisehed and allowed to actually investiagte we will never know. Check out my other posts in this thread, the Gov is hiding shit and cockblocking on a massive scale. There is no reason right? Nothing to hide so wtf is going on then. Can u sopport this idea, care to help me rant about a real investigation and the release of information?
Thanks, I'll pass. I was just toying with your paranoia. Not very much of a challenge as it turns out.

Fred, isn't it possible to enable an age check to keep all of the kids off of this board?
 
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