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I went to the shop in Middleport today (just past Onondaga) where the US-Canadian tobacco Rollies cost $100 for 11 bags of 200 each. This and other stores there charge no sale tax for any items since it's considered to be part of Native Territory. If a particular map shows that Middleport is not within the area that enjoys special Native jurisdiction, it is innacurate.
 

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LateComer said:
Check out this map on the Six Nations Tourism web site. Highway 54 is shown going through the reserve and Middleport is not mentioned. Is another native land claim in the works?
http://www.sntourism.com/images/snmap-front.jpg
The Six Nations Reserve has always staddled the Grand River at that one point. Chiefswood, the home of the famous native poetess Pauline Johnson is over on that side of the river as well. In recent years the Six Nations has purchased more land adjacent to that part of the reserve and added it to the reserve. The village of Middleport was for years on the far side ( south/east) of Middleport Rd. and consisted of a general store and some houses. There were only a couple of cabins on the reserve side of the road and not considered part of Middleport. When the natives built the plaza there a few years ago they named it Middleport Plaza.
 

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LurkerDave said:
There are a few such items available in those shops. The "Rollies" in the bags are the cheapest at $8-$12/200... and there are different ones (I buy the supposedly one-third US/two--thirds Canadian tobacco cigs). They tend to burn fairly quickly. The more expensive "All Natural Native" come in regular cartons for around $22-$25 per. The All Natural Native are in either Canadian or US tobacco types and there are variations of each available (light, 100's, etc.). At times, there are price wars at the different shops so it pays to check around for the best buy.

Or you can buy underground DK's from the corner variety store if they are available.

If you have an "in" there is no turning back. You might be shocked to know the "in" is around more than one might think. ;)
 

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I think people who smoke are stupid. Like people who are fat, or people who play with loaded guns. You must be lacking in some intelligence if you're 400 pounds, or you smoke, etc.

I really think "stupid" is an accurate word, I don't mean the word as an insult per se, I literally mean, lacking in intelligence. I guess there's no way of saying someone lacks intelligence without it sounding like an insult.
 

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fuji said:
I think people who smoke are stupid. Like people who are fat, or people who play with loaded guns. You must be lacking in some intelligence if you're 400 pounds, or you smoke, etc.

I really think "stupid" is an accurate word, I don't mean the word as an insult per se, I literally mean, lacking in intelligence. I guess there's no way of saying someone lacks intelligence without it sounding like an insult.
You've obviously never smoked. Smoking is an incredibly pleasurable, fun and unique way to spend your time. Seriously, a good smoke is in the same league as a juicy steak when you're hungry. Steaks can kill you too, are you stupid because you eat them?

That said, I gave up smoking years ago. Giving up was incredibly difficult. But I am not fooling myself that smoking was a huge pleasure (with huge downsides of course). When the time comes that I truly no longer give a fuck I will start right up again.
 

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LurkerDave said:
I went to the shop in Middleport today (just past Onondaga) where the US-Canadian tobacco Rollies cost $100 for 11 bags of 200 each. .

Non smoker here with a stupid question. . . .unless you are a chain smoker. . doesn't buyiing this quantity result in the tobacco going 'stale' before you smoke 'em??!?!?
 

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elvis777 said:
Non smoker here with a stupid question. . . .unless you are a chain smoker. . doesn't buyiing this quantity result in the tobacco going 'stale' before you smoke 'em??!?!?
Good tobacco, when stored properly, gets better with age, like a fine wine. This is especially true of the Virginia grades which have a high natural sugar content and, coincidentally a low nicotine content.

That is for those who smoke and enjoy it, not for the addicted smokers. There IS a difference.

Thanks for asking the question!
 

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Good tobacco, when stored properly, gets better with age, like a fine wine. This is especially true of the Virginia grades which have a high natural sugar content and, coincidentally a low nicotine content.
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I'm assuming that this type of tabacco . . i.e. that you buy in bulk. . .is not of the finer grade of leaf as indicated. . . .Am I wrong?
 

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The quality of the native tobacco bought in 200 gram bags is not equal to that of Drum and most other retail types. If one buys too much, it can dry out or, in some cases, spoil depending on various factors including packaging, etc.
 

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fuji said:
I think people who smoke are stupid. Like people who are fat, or people who play with loaded guns. You must be lacking in some intelligence if you're 400 pounds, or you smoke, etc.

I really think "stupid" is an accurate word, I don't mean the word as an insult per se, I literally mean, lacking in intelligence. I guess there's no way of saying someone lacks intelligence without it sounding like an insult.
Would it be an insult to your intelligence to call you redundant?
 

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elvis777 said:
shakenbake said:
Good tobacco, when stored properly, gets better with age, like a fine wine. This is especially true of the Virginia grades which have a high natural sugar content and, coincidentally a low nicotine content.
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I'm assuming that this type of tabacco . . i.e. that you buy in bulk. . .is not of the finer grade of leaf as indicated. . . .Am I wrong?
It is of the finest grade, without artificial additives. Actually, I am thinking of pipe tobacco and cigars, which are not at all like most of the commercial cigarette tobaccos.

If one smokes, smoke in moderation and smoke a pure grade without adulterants, such as American Spirit, or rolled shag tobacco. One of the greater tobacconists once said that a person must be master of their 'vices'and not be a slave to them. Today's cigarettes are anything but tobacco. They are probably nicotine delivery devices. But, that is another story.

I will probably get flamed for this post, but who cares!
 

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LurkerDave said:
The quality of the native tobacco bought in 200 gram bags is not equal to that of Drum and most other retail types. If one buys too much, it can dry out or, in some cases, spoil depending on various factors including packaging, etc.
Maybe. Then again, maybe not. Drum is a great tobacco, and I have quite a bit that I bought about 7 years ago aging in mason jars at home.

LurkerDave, if you smoke, PM me and I can give you some aged Drum.
 

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fuji said:
I think people who smoke are stupid. Like people who are fat, or people who play with loaded guns. You must be lacking in some intelligence if you're 400 pounds, or you smoke, etc.

I really think "stupid" is an accurate word, I don't mean the word as an insult per se, I literally mean, lacking in intelligence. I guess there's no way of saying someone lacks intelligence without it sounding like an insult.
Then again, some can say that we on TERB are somewhat addicted to sex. Many can say that you and I are 'stupid' because we are obsessed with sex, spend money on it and risk our health and that of our loved ones (i.e. STD) for our obsession.


Kettle, pot, black.............

So, please think twice before you are so judgemental.
 

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fuji said:
I think people who smoke are stupid. Like people who are fat, or people who play with loaded guns. You must be lacking in some intelligence if you're 400 pounds, or you smoke, etc.

I really think "stupid" is an accurate word, I don't mean the word as an insult per se, I literally mean, lacking in intelligence. I guess there's no way of saying someone lacks intelligence without it sounding like an insult.
Agree completely.
 

drlove

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shakenbake said:
Then again, some can say that we on TERB are somewhat addicted to sex. Many can say that you and I are 'stupid' because we are obsessed with sex, spend money on it and risk our health and that of our loved ones (i.e. STD) for our obsession.


Kettle, pot, black.............

So, please think twice before you are so judgemental.
Well, that's not entirely true. My problem is, I can't even walk down the street anymore without encountering some moron puffing away on their cigarette, and then being forced to breathe in their second hand smoke.
 
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