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Civil War: MAGA in Turmoil

richaceg

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So let me see if I understand.
If someone breaks into an apartment, you think the United States should consider it an act of war by the country that person was born in and start murdering people from that country ?
which "act of war" are we talking about here? then I will answer your question.
 
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But the people who wanted stricter immigration mainly voted for Trump....
... So I dont see how this changes with the midterms coming up
...hence immigration was #1 for them.
However now, many seem to disapprove of ICE actions, even the ones for whom immigration was the #1 issue and that could impact the mid terms.
 

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which "act of war" are we talking about here? then I will answer your question.
I think his question was clear.
If someone breaks into your home, and if they were from another country, would you consider it an act of war by that person's country of origin that justifies state sponsored murder of citizens of that country?
 
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I disagree, I think it's mostly Democrats who disapprove of ICE actions
Yes, but the % of Republicans who disapprove of ICE actions has increased, which has led to a majority of Americans disapproving of ICE actions.
That will impact the mid terms. To what extent remains to be seen, but it will.
 

Valcazar

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Yes, but it was the #2 issue for people who voted FOR Trump, not for people who voted against him
You are going to have to explain that more.
How does that support Wyatt's contention that it wasn't important?

But the people who wanted stricter immigration mainly voted for Trump, and the people that didnt want it (or didnt care much about it) were always going to vote Democrat.
So I dont see how this changes with the midterms coming up

Ah, I think I see.
Nothing Trump has done is likely to change the voting blocks in question, so "immigration won't be a factor" because everyone who votes on the issue is already committed to one side or the other and therefore "baked in" as it were?
 

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So let me see if I understand.
If someone breaks into an apartment, you think the United States should consider it an act of war by the country that person was born in and start murdering people from that country ?
I don't think you got rich's message.

He appears to be claiming that immigrants are 'invading' america.
 

Valcazar

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which "act of war" are we talking about here? then I will answer your question.
You're the one who said Venezuela invaded first and pointed to the apartment issue.
Do you now say you don't consider it an act of war?
"They started it" was your whole defense of the murder a few posts back.
 
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richaceg

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I think his question was clear.
If someone breaks into your home, and if they were from another country, would you consider it an act of war by that person's country of origin that justifies state sponsored murder of citizens of that country?
Nice try throwing it out there....Venezuelan gangs taking over an apartment is invasion... lmao..and it was a response to frankys claim that US just "takes over everything"...isn't that similar to Venezuelan gang members taking over apartments...lmao
 

richaceg

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You're the one who said Venezuela invaded first and pointed to the apartment issue.
Do you now say you don't consider it an act of war?
"They started it" was your whole defense of the murder a few posts back.
It wasn an invasion...lmao...and what did the US do in response? did they invade Venezuela? they didn't...it's another lefty outcry about Trump fighting drug dealers that try to smuggle drugs to the US.
 

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You are going to have to explain that more.
How does that support Wyatt's contention that it wasn't important?

Ah, I think I see.
Nothing Trump has done is likely to change the voting blocks in question, so "immigration won't be a factor" because everyone who votes on the issue is already committed to one side or the other and therefore "baked in" as it were?
The MAGA crowd are getting exactly what they voted for when it comes to tighter immigration.
So they are unlikely to vote Democrat in the midterms.

The only people that might vote Democrat are the swing voters.
But they too voted for tighter immigration when they voted for Trump, so I don't see how it changes much
 

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Nice try throwing it out there....Venezuelan gangs taking over an apartment is invasion... lmao..and it was a response to frankys claim that US just "takes over everything"...isn't that similar to Venezuelan gang members taking over apartments...lmao
Wait, but you don't think that's an invasion when settlers take over homes in Palestine.
Did the Venezuelan's stay in the apartment? How were they invading america by taking over that apartment?

Are you invading Canada by renting an apartment here?
Do we get to kick you out since you're an immigrant too?
 
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richaceg

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Wait, but you don't think that's an invasion when settlers take over homes in Palestine.
Did the Venezuelan's stay in the apartment? How were they invading america by taking over that apartment?

Are you invading Canada by renting an apartment here?
Do we get to kick you out since you're an immigrant too?
should we change the title to the video to
2-3 heavily armed "tenants" knocking on "landlords" door forcing landlord to open so they can pay rent...
 

Frankfooter

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should we change the title to the video to
2-3 heavily armed "tenants" knocking on "landlords" door forcing landlord to open so they can pay rent...
Or change the thread title to america invades country to take oil, stop imaginary drugs stop one home invasion in Colorado?
 
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MAGA battle breaks out over Trump succession


An analyst Wednesday described the MAGA battle unfolding over President Donald Trump's succession as infighting has ensued within the Republican party.

The Guardian's Moira Donegan wrote in an opinion piece that cracks have emerged in the Trump administration and MAGA as the president's influence has begun to lessen.



"The sharks can smell blood in the water. After a decade in eerie command of the Republican party, with primary voters in his cult-like thrall and down-ballot elected officials feeling they have no choice – and often no inclination – to diverge from him, Donald Trump suddenly seems not quite in control of his own political machine," Donegan wrote.

Trump appears to show signs of his age, snoozing during a cabinet meeting and looking pale. His tariffs are unpopular and expected to be struck down by the Supreme Court. His past associations with late financier and convicted child sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, including details of their interactions and social connections during the early 2000s, have continued to plague him, reigniting scrutiny of Trump's relationship with Epstein. New questions have raised about the extent of their friendship during a period when Epstein was known to be engaging in inappropriate behavior with underage girls.

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Republicans have begun to look to the future without Trump at the helm.

"The old man won’t be around forever; Republicans are beginning to imagine what the country – and more importantly, their own careers – will look like without him," Donegan wrote.

Signs that the Trump era has neared its end have surfaced, including Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) and her public split with the president, according to the analyst. And she won't be the only Republican to break with him.

"As Republicans continue to face strong headwinds from anti-Trump sentiment going into 2026, and as Trump himself dwindles in popularity, accumulates liabilities, and proves unwilling to compromise on his demands or reward loyal Republicans, it is likely that more and more GOP representatives will be looking for the exits," Donegan explained.



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"Meanwhile, Maga has begun to eat its own, with infighting over Epstein, antisemitism and economics slowly beginning to turn Trump’s operatives against each other as they jockey for position. The Trump era is not over – far from it – but we may be seeing the beginning of its next phase: what is likely to be a bleak, bloody, and belligerent battle of succession," Donegan added.
 
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