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What all this exchange of replies regarding fighter pilots going on?

What's the point to be proven?
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William lacked self-esteem when it came to women."
says RCMP behavioural expert


http://www.montrealgazette.com/news...ys+RCMP+behavioural+expert/3714651/story.html

"It's kind of like some forms of mental illness or depression, it's lying dormant and either a physical or a psychologically traumatic event occurs that provokes someone who is predisposed to start acting out," says Woods

The plot was always the same. Absolute control. Sex was just the instrument to gain that power, not the motivation. Murder is not usually part of the fantasy.

"I can tell you that he didn't just start thinking about it when he was 44," says Woods. "Most, if not all these offenders, start fantasizing about this stuff the same time you and I start fantasizing about mainstream sexual thoughts."

Williams' actions beginning that fall and his statements to police suggest he was trying to settle on how to gratify the sinister urges and fantasies he'd kept under control for about 20 years.


What precipitated Williams' decision to finally act out remains a mystery.

Woods speculates the trigger could have been a combination of work, family and other issues. "He may have had those stresses before, but maybe not together."


Serial murderers frequently have unusual or unnatural relationships with their mothers and many suffered family abuse, neglect or rejection as children and adolescents.

Williams' parents divorced when he was seven. He remained with his younger brother, mother and her new husband, eventually settling in Toronto after his early upbringing in Deep River, Ont.

Little is known about the family's relationships and there is no evidence Williams was abused.

Williams' mother, Nonie Sovka, appears to have been a dominant personality. Former neighbours have said she, "made sure they (the boys) did all the right activities," including tennis and sailing. "She had them doing stuff all the time."




Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/news...oural+expert/3714651/story.html#ixzz13JbfwjIX
 

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like the article says, "Woods speculates" blahblah blah......... it really is entirely and totally speculation...the only thing that really matters is that the guy is behind bars. having detailed speculations and hypotheses and DSM labels will not help society prevent the next fuck up from, doing the same thing. Ndeither psychology, nor psychiatry have any foundation in genuine science......it's all speculative b.s. maybe tennis players and sailors are more prone to abusing others. after all, one does from time to time see rackets flying angrilly aroundthe tennis court:confused:
 

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like the article says, "Woods speculates" blahblah blah......... it really is entirely and totally speculation...the only thing that really matters is that the guy is behind bars. having detailed speculations and hypotheses and DSM labels will not help society prevent the next fuck up from, doing the same thing. Ndeither psychology, nor psychiatry have any foundation in genuine science......it's all speculative b.s. maybe tennis players and sailors are more prone to abusing others. after all, one does from time to time see rackets flying angrilly aroundthe tennis court:confused:
Okay.
 

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You have to love that OPP interviewer. The guy knew going in that they had their man, but he had to play it just right in order to extact a confession. He was perfect. He took the information he had and played it perfectly.


http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/2010-2011/theconfession/

No question the interviewer was absolutly superb and extremely skilled in his profession. There was a great deal of strategy and prep. Well done. Thankfully, Williams was an extremely incompetent killer. May he rot in jail...and then hell. BUT I am very curious about Mrs. Williams. Is she 100% clean? How about all the lingerie he had at his house...did it not raise an eyebrow? I think the police should release a statement if they have cleared her (have they?) has she released a statement at all? If she is innocent, it is a horrible situation, so I do sympathise...but I think the air needs to be cleared around this little shop of horrors.
 

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No question the interviewer was absolutly superb and extremely skilled in his profession. There was a great deal of strategy and prep. Well done. Thankfully, Williams was an extremely incompetent killer. May he rot in jail...and then hell. BUT I am very curious about Mrs. Williams. Is she 100% clean? How about all the lingerie he had at his house...did it not raise an eyebrow? I think the police should release a statement if they have cleared her (have they?) has she released a statement at all? If she is innocent, it is a horrible situation, so I do sympathise...but I think the air needs to be cleared around this little shop of horrors.
Any OPP detective could have done an equally competent job. The interviewer was certainly skilled however all Detectives are similarly trained, and tis particularly case would have been any interviewers dream.....essentially a cake-walk. After all, they had his tire tracks; they had pretty much figured from all of the B and E patterns that it was him; they had his boot imprints; they already had a warrant prepped to search his home; and they were threatening him with DNA samples...I mean really...they had him cornered before he even entered the room, and confession or no confession, he would have been arrested that day or within days, and DNA plus the search warrants would have pegged him. So the interview itself was almost a moot point other than to assist in expediting the location of jessica's body. To my mind it was an "OK" interview...nothing spectacular, and handed to the intervieweron a golden platter.
 

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Any OPP detective could have done an equally competent job. The interviewer was certainly skilled however all Detectives are similarly trained, and tis particularly case would have been any interviewers dream.....essentially a cake-walk. After all, they had his tire tracks; they had pretty much figured from all of the B and E patterns that it was him; they had his boot imprints; they already had a warrant prepped to search his home; and they were threatening him with DNA samples...I mean really...they had him cornered before he even entered the room, and confession or no confession, he would have been arrested that day or within days, and DNA plus the search warrants would have pegged him. So the interview itself was almost a moot point other than to assist in expediting the location of jessica's body. To my mind it was an "OK" interview...nothing spectacular, and handed to the intervieweron a golden platter.
All that is true, but to be able to stretch out the interview, get him to agree to hand over his shoes and DNA, and the confess, took a great deal of skill. I doubt more then a handful of OPP could have done it....but who knows.
 

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I think his was extremely good at what he does, but what a SHITTY JOB!!! Having to obsessively study sick scumbags for hours and be exposed to the most depraved details of their crimes. If I had to do a job like that I would probably kill myself. I am glad there are people who can deal with it to protect us.
 

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Any OPP detective could have done an equally competent job. The interviewer was certainly skilled however all Detectives are similarly trained, and tis particularly case would have been any interviewers dream.....essentially a cake-walk.
I'm not sure that I agree.

As one of his colleagues said "There's not a lot of us who can go into an interview room and operate at that level."

And according the the RCMP there are only a half-dozen certified criminal profilers in Canada of which he is one.


http://www.nationalpost.com/news/ca...+trained+interrogate+likes/3715864/story.html
 

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I think his was extremely good at what he does, but what a SHITTY JOB!!! Having to obsessively study sick scumbags for hours and be exposed to the most depraved details of their crimes. If I had to do a job like that I would probably kill myself. I am glad there are people who can deal with it to protect us.
Obviously the officer has a skill, a calling, and/or gets a rush out of getting sick f**ks like Williams off the road.
 

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Obviously the officer has a skill, a calling, and/or gets a rush out of getting sick f**ks like Williams off the road.
I still find it hard to believe it does not have a major psychological toll on you....in either case I am thankful for the service of this officer and I hope he is able to deal with all the sickness he is immersed in as part of his job. Frankly... I would have a hard time not pulling out my service revolver and shooting him to pieces one limb at a time. Just watching that scumbag talk made me both sicked and angry...and that was the EDITED video...
 

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like i said, they woulda had williams even without an interview....dna; search warrant would have found all the undies and photographs; tire tracks. Williams was toast before he walked in the room. Deputy Dawg could have got him to confess
 

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like i said, they woulda had williams even without an interview....dna; search warrant would have found all the undies and photographs; tire tracks. Williams was toast before he walked in the room. Deputy Dawg could have got him to confess
I don't know what if any exposure you have to this area. But I rather doubt that just any old person could have obtained a full confession.
 

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I don't know what if any exposure you have to this area. But I rather doubt that just any old person could have obtained a full confession.
i have seen quite a few detectgives do equally if not better interviews, however it only makes sense that the media needs to hype this interview to counter the forces of evil..they are staging a "forces of good vs. evil" deal here and will make a bit of a hero out of the OPP fella..which is ok..my point however, is that they caught williams with his pants down and he would have beenarrested same day,even without that interview, as they alreaedy had search warants issues and ready to go, so they would have had his boots,and all the foto evidence one way or the other that weekend. the interview was sorta the icing on the cake and should not overshadow all of the other hardwork put into this case by a whole bunchof other police officers
 

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I still find it hard to believe it does not have a major psychological toll on you....in either case I am thankful for the service of this officer and I hope he is able to deal with all the sickness he is immersed in as part of his job. Frankly... I would have a hard time not pulling out my service revolver and shooting him to pieces one limb at a time. Just watching that scumbag talk made me both sicked and angry...and that was the EDITED video...
and that's why you're not a cop.
 
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