Rockslinger said:
Hmmmm ... does part of that service possibly include getting a very up close and personal look at the 'Felis Catus Hairless,' by any chance?
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Hmmmm ... does part of that service possibly include getting a very up close and personal look at the 'Felis Catus Hairless,' by any chance?
The "chatte nue" is a very shy elusive creature that usually hides in the dark. It takes a lot of money (a lot to me anyway) to coax it out of its favourite hiding place. Sometimes its owner and I just can't come to an agreement on what to do with that thing but as Shaun would say: "You win some, you lose some."snowleopard said:
If one goes to Vegas to hobby, prices will be high, whereas in Montreal they will be low. I doubt service levels will be all that different.
Price has little to do with service levels from my experience. IMHO in the GTA an SP charging $400 per hour is not usually 'better' than one charging $250. per hour. It really just boils down to A) do you as a hobbyist find the SP hot? & B) do you click with her after meeting? If you find her hot and the two of you click, you will have a great time whether she charges $125 or $400.
Finding an SP you think is hot is fairly easy in this day and age as pics are up online so you can look over the pics to find your type. So if not B&S, the hotness factor is solved for you before the meet. The clicking is the hard part - you can read reviews to help, but just because hobbyist A clicked with SP X and had a great session doesn't mean you will - the infamous YMMV. Also, you might have a great session with and SP and the nest guy might find she is a cold fish. Sex is about chemistry to a degree, even in the biz.
I have a certain hit/miss ratio with clicking with SP's. I've seen $400, $300, $250, $200 per hour SPs over the years. I have found no higher percentage of 'clicking' with $400 SP's over $250 SP's. Some SP's you get along like a house on fire with, and others times you feel like Bogart at a feminist authors convention lol.
I had a great outcall for $300 last night at my house with a regular of mine. She'd be the same girl if she charged $200 or $500. Market demand pricing doesn't make for more or less service. When you click with an SP, put her on your repeat list. I do.
As for porn vs SP pricing, I recall most porn is filmed in the LA area. It is not illegal in the U.S. to be a porn star and make porn movies. It is illegal to be an SP in the U.S. and see clients. A promoter can put up posters at UCLA requesting girls call him to audition for a role in a porn movie and work for him. If he put up a poster at UCLA asking for girls to call him to work for him as SP's seeing clients it would be LAPD calling him lol. Also, as said, it is less risky being in a movie as you are with a group of profressionals on a closed set. Therefore, I can see non-famous porn actresses getting paid less per hour than upscale SP's in LA.
Price has little to do with service levels from my experience. IMHO in the GTA an SP charging $400 per hour is not usually 'better' than one charging $250. per hour. It really just boils down to A) do you as a hobbyist find the SP hot? & B) do you click with her after meeting? If you find her hot and the two of you click, you will have a great time whether she charges $125 or $400.
Finding an SP you think is hot is fairly easy in this day and age as pics are up online so you can look over the pics to find your type. So if not B&S, the hotness factor is solved for you before the meet. The clicking is the hard part - you can read reviews to help, but just because hobbyist A clicked with SP X and had a great session doesn't mean you will - the infamous YMMV. Also, you might have a great session with and SP and the nest guy might find she is a cold fish. Sex is about chemistry to a degree, even in the biz.
I have a certain hit/miss ratio with clicking with SP's. I've seen $400, $300, $250, $200 per hour SPs over the years. I have found no higher percentage of 'clicking' with $400 SP's over $250 SP's. Some SP's you get along like a house on fire with, and others times you feel like Bogart at a feminist authors convention lol.
I had a great outcall for $300 last night at my house with a regular of mine. She'd be the same girl if she charged $200 or $500. Market demand pricing doesn't make for more or less service. When you click with an SP, put her on your repeat list. I do.
As for porn vs SP pricing, I recall most porn is filmed in the LA area. It is not illegal in the U.S. to be a porn star and make porn movies. It is illegal to be an SP in the U.S. and see clients. A promoter can put up posters at UCLA requesting girls call him to audition for a role in a porn movie and work for him. If he put up a poster at UCLA asking for girls to call him to work for him as SP's seeing clients it would be LAPD calling him lol. Also, as said, it is less risky being in a movie as you are with a group of profressionals on a closed set. Therefore, I can see non-famous porn actresses getting paid less per hour than upscale SP's in LA.
Well I know it's already almost entirely been said but:
What does one get for that price, some barely legal run-away with psychological issues and an inability to properly speak any language, let alone English? For a number of us, particularly once one is past the "sexual superman" stage of life, an SP's ability hold a conversation, have a fair level of intelligence, and to at least give the appearance that your encounter has been something more than "slam bam, thank you ma’am" is of importance.Shaunhorny said:
Needless to say this is absolutely true.Shaunhorny said:
I very much disagree, see my first point. Yes it is amazing when the morons among us breed like rabbits that the world continues to produce intelligent people.Shaunhorny said:
See my second point above, obviously if you’ve made clear what you wanted and then it turns into "bait and switch" then you need to post that here and if an agency is involved complain!Shaunhorny said:
I guess a lay is a lay is a lay. Yes, YPWV (Your Price Will Vary) depending on location. If we use Toronto as the benchmark, Montreal is lower as is Hamilton, London, KW, Windsor. On the other hand, prices in Calgary and Vancouver are simply outrageous.alexmst said:
I see that Gen's French lessons are starting to sink in ... perhaps she should add Greek, French and Economics lessons to her menu ... no doubt she could get top dollar for that GFE plus service.Rockslinger said:
Seriously, this thread is starting to rival the 'bald pussy' thread. Shaun has unleashed yet another monster, to keep us awake deep into the night.
Love it or hate it, he keeps the discussion lively and is anything but dull. If this discussion proves anything, it is that there's no business like the sex-for-sale business. It is as varied, emotional, subjective, and fascinating as life itself ... and that, aside from the obvious, is what I love about this hobby.
Carry on ...
The "Big Guy" would occasionally tell us: "If it ain't worth talking about, it ain't worth doing." The quest for the elusive bald beaver continues.snowleopard said:
Correct. Escorting is illegal while having a camera and a contract makes porn legal.alexmst said:
I was quoting a porn content producer's shooting rates. For those rates, you get sofcore content of an average teenie bopper that you see on any number of porn sites. For hardcore you're looking at $500 - $1500. I'm not going to speculate on the talent's psychological issues, home life, or residential status hahaha.Aardvark154 said:
What do you talk about with SPs? Do you really care to go beyond the pale of small talk?
Ummm... yeah, that's it.Shaunhorny said:
Actually, I'll PM you the location of a public washroom and then you go there and wait for me, ok? Just make sure you wait, no matter how long it takes... Deal?
Sounds like a deal. I used to get offended when people referred to sewers as manholes. I always thought they should be called peopleholes because it's denigrating to men otherwise. Maybe I'm just being politically correct. But now with gay sex added to my conquests I don't take offense. Manholes are beautiful things. I can't wait to tap that hairy mangina of yours.Captain Fantastic said:Ummm... yeah, that's it.
Actually, I'll PM you the location of a public washroom and then you go there and wait for me, ok? Just make sure you wait, no matter how long it takes... Deal?
That is so not the same. There is a huge difference between a lay, and an amazing sensual sexual experience that is equally mutual.Rockslinger said:
In fact I'll bet you anything that not only do you get ripped off in Vegas, you also get sub par service to boot.
We live in a great city with some awesome SP's.
Actually, I'm shaved with a nicely sculpted and trimmed soul patch on top.Shaunhorny said:
BTW, how come you're still here? I gave explicit directions to you for that special public bathroom complete with built-in gloryholes and mirrored floor tiles. LOL!
I know, I know. I was just trying to avoid a long drawn out discussion on the different kinds of lays and jump straight to the money issue which is probably more germaine to this thread. What is the point of this thread again?The Houdini said:
It's already included in my "menu", for those so inclined. And for a small extra, you get the "PSE menu" with Contemporary French Philosophy and Introduction to Feminism.snowleopard said:
Note that I have a different pedagogical style to greek lessons than what is usually expected, as was discussed in another thread.
Hey Gen, didn't realize you were still in the room. SnowLeopard: Be careful what we say, Gen is still in the room. (Now I know why guys book 4 hour appointments. It's that exciting philosophy stuff.)genintoronto said:
You're laughing, but once, a client and I went from the usual chit chat to a very heated debate re: french philosophers, and next thing you know, the time was up. The client had me called my driver to extend for another hour, which I did. I thought we were going to leave the french philosophers aside to get into more naughty stuff, but no: he just wanted to carry on the argument we were having.Rockslinger said:
I left after two hours without even having taken my clothes off, and with a very generous tip for "one of the most challenging discussion I've had in a long time" (his words).
He called again two days later, and as soon as I arrived at his hotel room, he begged me to not open my mouth to talk because he really needed to get laid this time, and didn't want his big head to take over the small one. I laughed but didn't say a word.
When I left, he told me that I was almost as sexy silent as I am when I'm arguing. I took it as a compliment.
