Cuba may fall

Butler1000

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No real reporting on MSM. But 15 days in out of fuel. Which means no electricity, no clean water, no sewage control. No cooking no means to store food. Blockage so limited food.

This could get ugly. End up as Gaza 2.0.
 
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Will Russia or China move to help them?
There's very little the Russians or Chinese are able to do to help Cuba at the moment. Neither are going to risk the ire of Washington by sending an armada to break the siege Cuba is under at the moment, especially considering that both Russia and China have bigger fish to fry in their own backyards at the moment
 
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Insidious Von

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Cuba was once a Mafia playground, they wont submit to the Americans again easily. Ironic, today is the day that Fidel Castro overthrew the Mafia State and took power.

 
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Sad.

My xgf is Cuban and actually talked to her last week.
Her cousin lives there with her family and they said it is bad and the panic has set in.
Her cousin's friend who owns a family restaurant through 3 generations is already talking about unaliving himself. That business is everything to him, it's all he knows and put everything he had into it, financially and his blood sweat and tears.
Costs are through the roof, business is non existent. He's quite literally going mad.
 

xix

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La la land
 

fall

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I am glad the U.S. finally has a president who can do something about Cuba. It is easier to prevent another 1962 instead of reacting to it. Prevention is better than treatment: it is true for cars, health, and global threats. If only politicians were willing to spend their political capital on fixing things that are not broken yet but are about to be, we would not have had North Korea, Iran, and the current state of Russia threats.
 

Butler1000

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I am glad the U.S. finally has a president who can do something about Cuba. It is easier to prevent another 1962 instead of reacting to it. Prevention is better than treatment: it is true for cars, health, and global threats. If only politicians were willing to spend their political capital on fixing things that are not broken yet but are about to be, we would not have had North Korea, Iran, and the current state of Russia threats.
How many thousands of deaths ate acceptable losses?

And are you really going to compare Cuba to those larger nations? They have no real resources to exploit, an island, and poor as shit.
 

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I am glad the U.S. finally has a president who can do something about Cuba. It is easier to prevent another 1962 instead of reacting to it. Prevention is better than treatment: it is true for cars, health, and global threats. If only politicians were willing to spend their political capital on fixing things that are not broken yet but are about to be, we would not have had North Korea, Iran, and the current state of Russia threats.
Yes of course, police the world. While your border is wide open, your people cant afford homes or groceries, and you bankrupt your own country in the process.
 
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fall

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How many thousands of deaths ate acceptable losses?

And are you really going to compare Cuba to those larger nations? They have no real resources to exploit, an island, and poor as shit.
1962 was not about Cuba threatening the USA, it was about the USSR using Cuba to do that. Having such a country in a close proximity is a threat.
 

fall

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Yes of course, police the world. While your border is wide open, your people cant afford homes or groceries, and you bankrupt your own country in the process.
Short term vs long-term costs. If you do not have money, is it OK not to change the oil in your car? Was it wise not to respond to Russia harshly after the Crimea annexation in 2014? Or even earlier when Putin started the selective prosecution of the opposition? Was it wise not to spend money to integrate Russia into the Western economy after the early 1990s in a way Germany was helped after WW2? Was it wise to let Hamas strive so many years untill Israel finally got tired of it? Was it wise not to strike Iran now and help the protesters? If you do not want to spend $$$ now, you will end up spending $$$$$ later. And, sometimes, it is not just money
 

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Short term vs long-term costs ... If you do not want to spend $$$ now, you will end up spending $$$$$ later. And, sometimes, it is not just money
Using your logic, was it wise to support the Zionists for the last 80 years? I understand it got the Zionists their own state, but what did the west get? Other than a whole bunch of enemies.
 
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