It defiantly contributed to halting the spreadGlad to see you've dropped your moronic argument that the embargo is what stopped the spread of communism..
Even a fool like you should recognize this
It defiantly contributed to halting the spreadGlad to see you've dropped your moronic argument that the embargo is what stopped the spread of communism..
That's what they said about Soviet Russia and then, one day, poof and it was gone. And the same will be in Cuba. Communism needs no embargo, arms race or sanctions. It only needs enough time to demonstrate to its victims how idiotic and vile it really is. It takes some peoples a bit longer, that's all.
Actually I was referring to the years the USA spent propping up a murderous thug (Batista), simply because that thug allowed American corporations to rape Cuba for all it was worth.. Only to then turn around and scream "NO FAIR" when the people took up arms and rebelled against him (and then took back what they rightfully felt was theirs)..
No it was not him fooling anyone. He took control with Machine guns , rocket launchers and grenadesFidel Castro isn't a saint by any stretch.. But the revolution wasn't a result of him "fooling" the majority of Cubans..
... Because the Cuban Revolution wasn't against a Spanish backed dictator... The revolution was against a U.S. backed dictator...As long as you are in need of someone to blame and criticize (a trait common amongst the loonie left) why no go back to the Spanish rule of Cuba
They burned Indigenous Cuban resistance leaders at the stake
They imported slavery & generally raped the Island for all its worth
You do understand that the Cuban revolution wasn't just a one man show, do you not? That they required an army of (volunteer) revolutionaries to fight an actual army of the (corrupt) government of the day? You're a bit of a moron, but you're not that stupid..He took control with Machine guns , rocket launchers and grenades... While the people of Cuba were not "fooled" they did not have any choice in the matter
...How do you know how many Spanish were backing Batista?Because the Cuban Revolution wasn't against a Spanish backed dictator... The revolution was against a U.S. backed dictator...
While we all know the US backed Batista the blame for the 60 years of commie rule in Cuba does not fall completely at their feet
Just as long as you get to blame someone, I guess you are good
What a stupid question?You do understand that the Cuban revolution wasn't just a one man show, do you not?
Why not ask if ISIS or Al Qaeda is a one man show
The similarities between all three is they convince young uneducated fools to do their dirty work
ISIS & Al Qaeda are fighting what they believe is the army of the supposed corrupt govt of the day . Or so they have been told (Brain washed)That they required an army of (volunteer) revolutionaries to fight an actual army of the (corrupt) government of the day?
You areYou're a bit of a moron, but you're not that stupid..
Nice tryI'm certain there are many Cubans who do not like living under the rule of Fidel (just as there are many who do not like living under the rule of Stephen Harper).
Comparing life under the rule of Communist Fidel vs. life with our PM
For starters you get to bad mouth Harper to your heats content with no repercussions
Speaking out against Fidel puts you in jail or you just disappeared
Then you always get a chance to change our PM once every 4 years via free elections
No choice in Cuba
Pure conjecture on your part, only time will tellI am also certain that there were many more who did not like living under the rule of Batista (as evidenced by a successful guerrilla led revolution against an American backed government)
Until then you are moron
Because of High School level History.. Batista (during WW2) had proposed a joint U.S. - Latin American assault on Spain to overthrow the Franco regime (Franco was the dictator of Spain from 1939 to 1975).. IdiotHow do you know how many Spanish were backing Batista?
The question was rhetorical.. Please use the world wide web to look up "rhetorical"..What a stupid question?
Not to get too far off topic with this nonsensical "point" of yours, but it actually can be argued that the government in Iraq is quite corrupt.. ISIS is pure evil, but it's not like their primary enemy (the current government in Iraq) are without their considerable sins..ISIS & Al Qaeda are fighting what they believe is the army of the supposed corrupt govt of the day .
You know you're insane right? To anybody with half a brain it's perfectly clear that I wasn't comparing life under one to life under the other.. I was simply stating the obvious.. That there will be always be opposition to any government of the day.Comparing life under the rule of Communist Fidel vs. life with our PM
So you can count one Spaniard who was not backing BatistaBecause of High School level History.. Batista (during WW2) had proposed a joint U.S. - Latin American assault on Spain to overthrow the Franco regime (Franco was the dictator of Spain from 1939 to 1975).. Idiot
Please use the www to look up moronThe question was rhetorical.. Please use the world wide web to look up "rhetorical"..
Just so long as you can justify the evils of Castro, ISIS & Al QaedaNot to get too far off topic with this nonsensical "point" of yours, but it actually can be argued that the government in Iraq is quite corrupt.. ISIS is pure evil, but it's not like their primary enemy (the current government in Iraq) are without their considerable sins..
I do not think so, you made the initial comparisonYou know you're insane right?
Really?To anybody with half a brain it's perfectly clear that I wasn't comparing life under one to life under the other..
That appears very much to be a one to one comparisonI'm certain there are many Cubans who do not like living under the rule of Fidel (just as there are many who do not like living under the rule of Stephen Harper).
No actually you statedI was simply stating the obvious..
Which is not obvious at allI'm certain there are many Cubans who do not like living under the rule of Fidel (just as there are many who do not like living under the rule of Stephen Harper).
In Canada , the U.S. & other democracies the opposition gets to participate in law making, publicly criticise the current government and gets to campaign for the right to form a governmentThat there will be always be opposition to any government of the day.
Probably,...but communism doesn't breed performance,...!!!any chance we get more Cuban sps outta this deal?
Spaniard? We were talking about which government propped up Batista, resulting in the Cuban revolution, you absolute dipstick.. You bizarrely felt that the Spanish rule over Cuba might have had something to do with the revolution.. I (accurately) pointed out that the revolution wasn't about anything that happened during Spanish rule (which ended in 1898... more than 50 years prior) but specifically against Batista (who was backed by the U.S. government).. You then demanded to know how I knew who was backing Batista (insinuating that the Spanish might still have had something to do with it along with the Yanks).. This was beyond pathetic as it's widely known (by anybody with half a brain) that Batista tried to wage war against the Spanish during WW2.. FAIL! You're just so pathetic.So you can count one Spaniard who was not backing Batista
Grow a brain and realize that there isn't a "side" in every fight worth joining.. Some fights are just stupid and should be left to the morons fighting them...Grow some balls and pick a side
I realize that your laughably pathetic mind needed me to make this argument so that you could "amaze" the terb world with your "wisdom".. But I didn't.. Too bad so sad.. Try using your brain next time..I do not think so, you made the initial comparison
Which is nothing like the free and democratic world of the U.S. backed Batista governed Cuba? Get a brain you loser.. These arguments would be a lot more fun if you had just a basic understanding of world history (instead of a sack of nonsensical right wing rhetoric, conjured up to amaze and confuse the small brains of the world like yourself.).In Fidel's commie Cuba the opposition gets put in prison or just disappears.
Keep patting yourself on the back you self righteous knobSpaniard? We were talking about which government propped up Batista, resulting in the Cuban revolution, you absolute dipstick.. You bizarrely felt that the Spanish rule over Cuba might have had something to do with the revolution.. I (accurately) pointed out that the revolution wasn't about anything that happened during Spanish rule (which ended in 1898... more than 50 years prior) but specifically against Batista (who was backed by the U.S. government).. You then demanded to know how I knew who was backing Batista (insinuating that the Spanish might still have had something to do with it along with the Yanks).. This was beyond pathetic as it's widely known (by anybody with half a brain) that Batista tried to wage war against the Spanish during WW2.. FAIL! You're just so pathetic.
So is pointing out faults to paint the bad guys in a better lightGrow a brain and realize that there isn't a "side" in every fight worth joining.. Some fights are just stupid and should be left to the morons fighting them...
Its black & whiteI realize that your laughably pathetic mind needed me to make this argument so that you could "amaze" the terb world with your "wisdom".. But I didn't.. Too bad so sad.. Try using your brain next time..
Cuban life under Batista vs. Cuban life under commie FidelWhich is nothing like the free and democratic world of the U.S. backed Batista governed Cuba? Get a brain you loser.. These arguments would be a lot more fun if you had just a basic understanding of world history (instead of a sack of nonsensical right wing rhetoric, conjured up to amaze and confuse the small brains of the world like yourself.).
You brought up ISIS, not me. You brought them up in an effort to lump the Castro regime in with one of the worst terrorist organizations this world has ever known. You then made the easily disputable claim that the soldiers of this terrorist organization were "fooled" into believing they were fighting against a corrupt government.. I was simply pointing out that the government that they are currently fighting against IS corrupt.. You pathetic boob.So is pointing out faults to paint the bad guys in a better light
That you read my explanation that there are always people who despise thier governments and (like the complete fucking moron you are) decided it would be easier to argue my point if my point had actually been that there are legitimate comparisons between Harper and Castro??? Yeah, you're right.. It is black and white.. You're a moron and there's no disputing it.. Black and White...Its black & white
Actually I'm assuming it was worse under Batista because (again) of world history.. I used the revolution as a simplified explanation that might appeal to your tiny brain.. Batista seized power when he realized he was running in an election which polls indicated he would lose (ousting a democratically elected president). He did this with the blessing of the United States government. He then developed heavy (and well documented) ties with Organized Crime (and often used these connections to repress the opposition). Under him crime exploded. Unemployment was rampant. It's estimated that by the time he was ousted as dictator as many as 92% of Cubans were illiterate.. Contrast that to Cubans today who have Universal Health Care.. A U.S. Congressional report admitted that health care is “superior in Cuba and rivals that of numerous developed countries”. They sport a literacy rate of 99.8 percent.. By 1990, unemployment had been virtually wiped out.. 80% of Cubans own their own homes...You are assuming it was worse under Batista just because they had a revolution
I don't disagree with this statement.A third alternative is needed. The US interests that lost assets in Cuba that they originally got through graft and extortion do not deserve to get them back, and the Cuban people deserve better than Castro.
To those Castro screwed over it isYou brought up ISIS, not me. You brought them up in an effort to lump the Castro regime in with one of the worst terrorist organizations this world has ever known.
If I mentioned ISIS so what, you started making excuses for them, justifying their actions
ISIS is pure evil, but it's not like their primary enemy (the current government in Iraq) are without their considerable sins..
So you believe all the nutjobs killing in the name of Allah, like the two in France or the nutjob in Ottawa and a whole army in Iraq are rational well educated people who chose this path without any coercing or influence from their spiritual leaders?You then made the easily disputable claim that the soldiers of this terrorist organization were "fooled" into believing they were fighting against a corrupt government..
Come on AdamH !
Stupid and Naïve is no way to go through life. Its time you smartened up
Surely you do not advocate armed rebellion against if one feels it is corrupt, do you?I was simply pointing out that the government that they are currently fighting against IS corrupt.. You pathetic boob.
Some would call the parliamentary system in Canada corrupt regardless of who is in power. There are a lot of backroom deals we do not hear about
And down in the states it is the lobby groups and the money they throw around Washington that really makes the laws . Some might call that corrupt
Again you made a one to one comparisonThat you read my explanation that there are always people who despise thier governments and (like the complete fucking moron you are) decided it would be easier to argue my point if my point had actually been that there are legitimate comparisons between Harper and Castro??? Yeah, you're right.. It is black and white.. You're a moron and there's no disputing it.. Black and White...
I'm certain there are many Cubans who do not like living under the rule of Fidel (just as there are many who do not like living under the rule of Stephen Harper).And that is you mistakeActually I'm assuming it was worse under Batista because (again) of world history..
You assume
Cuban life under Bastia was no picnic, he was crook a dictator and likely a mass murder.
Fidel instituted communism, deprived the Cuban people of human rights and economic opportunities for 50 years, made thousands disappear & prevented them from leaving.
Who was worse ?
That is for the Cubans to determine, A right they have not had under either
Yet your self righteous know it all attitude lets you decide Fidel was the less of two evils
Like I said it was no picnicI used the revolution as a simplified explanation that might appeal to your tiny brain.. Batista seized power when he realized he was running in an election which polls indicated he would lose (ousting a democratically elected president). He did this with the blessing of the United States government. He then developed heavy (and well documented) ties with Organized Crime (and often used these connections to repress the opposition). Under him crime exploded. Unemployment was rampant. It's estimated that by the time he was ousted as dictator as many as 92% of Cubans were illiterate..
Granted Cubans are well educated and their Health Care system is very good given the resources they have to work withContrast that to Cubans today who have Universal Health Care.. A U.S. Congressional report admitted that health care is “superior in Cuba and rivals that of numerous developed countries”. They sport a literacy rate of 99.8 percent..
But do not kid yourself. They lack pencils, paper and the basic educational tools. Do not expect any innovation from the Cuban education system
Health Care? a doctor makes the roughly same as an average worker maybe a little more, so those that chose medicine do so out of interest, No incentive for the best & the brightest
Imagine what they could have accomplished with the shackles of communism?
not so fastBy 1990, unemployment had been virtually wiped out.. 80% of Cubans own their own homes...
Zero unemployment means jack shit if your country creates no economic value
They work , not because they have an economic incentive to work, rather they are told they must work (that is evil)
Similarly owning a house means shit if its a dump and you can not sell it for more than five pigs and a donkey
I never said thatThe difference between you and I (besides the fact that you are clearly brainwashed by right-wing rhetoric) is that you feel that the revolution happened for no reason whatsoever..
Please state the post number
.You seem to think that every thing was hunky dory under Batista
I never said that
Please state the post number
Not for you to declare from your high horseI'm more than prepared to acknowledge that Castro's time as leader has been littered with human rights abuses, and negative impacts to Cubans in general.. But to sit on your high horse and declare that the revolution had no basis for taking place is beyond asinine.. Batista was corrupt, and life under him was awful. Maybe it isn't much better now (though there are some well-informed people who might disagree), but it sure as fuck wasn't better then..
What's the matter ?Bottom line.. You're an idiot without a clue as to what you're talking about.
Cant take the heat when you are called out for defending a commie?
Who would decide what is graft & extortion ?US policy was effectively terrorist policy in Cuba both before and after Castro. So saying he stole property or that his regime committed atrocity kind of misses the point.
Neither side had ever had any interest in benefiting the Cuban people. A third alternative is needed.
The US interests that lost assets in Cuba that they originally got through graft and extortion do not deserve to get them back, and the Cuban people deserve better than Castro.






