Darth Cheney Hospitalized

[WoodPeckr]

His 'bum ticker' is acting up!
Always predicted he would leave office for 'health reasons'.

So is this the right time to dump the DICK?
And who will replace the DICK?

This would explain why McCain has been sucking up to Team 'w' all along.
Maybe he was selected for this months ago and now the time is right for the swap of the DICK for the JOHN....

 

[WoodPeckr]

I'm not about to wish him ill-will. I am wishing him a
relaxing and therapeutic retirement. Go Dick, go.

And what a sight his retirement will be.
You can just picture it, DICK, Lynn and DICK's 'man-size safe'!....

 

[Gyaos]

4 weeks ago, Cheney didn't look good during a speech he was making. Now he's in again for health problems. A resignation, cometh!

 

[LancsLad]

Woody, I think that making fun and/or sport of the Vice Presidents medical condition would even be beneath you.

Lets try to be civil .

 

[katsrin]

Cheney has a heart? Who knew?

 

[LancsLad]

I wish Cheney is/was.

Nice segue with the word civil. Full marks for participation. Hopefully Woody will play nice.

 

[LancsLad]

Now you're pushing the envelope.

I must be an optimist , but I hope he can.

Courtesy goes both ways. Back when Edwards wife had the cancer diagnosis, I also suggested no political cracks over it even though I am NO fan of Edwards. A persons medical problems is not on, when it comes to humour.

Damn, at times I almost sound civilized.

 

[themexi]

I hope a doctor with Haliburton's ethics & track record for providing services as paid for is tending to the men old bastard.... he won't stop being a poison to this world until he leaves it. Even then his dubious legacy will linger like fould stench.

 

[katsrin]

Back when Edwards wife had the cancer diagnosis, I also suggested no political cracks over it even though I am NO fan of Edwards.

The difference is, Edwards' wife probably never did anything for you to have any legitimate cause to have anything but concern and respect for her.

 

[LancsLad]

I have a plethoria of issues with Cheney's strategies.

But he was elected, likely once, and he is our VP.
As in marriage vows, for better or worse.

So Lancs, you never answered my question about
a previous elected official. What's your issue with
JFK's decisions?

Sorry, I was going to and I got sidetracked.


My impression was that he was heavily in favour of Big government and its' "role" in solving things. Struck me as to much of a collectivist view. A major item for me is also the "sins of the father" syndrome. I can not get past Joes outright hostility and hatred of Blighty and how he was all for encouraging FDR to cut and run from Britain and Churchill and go with the germans as the eventual winners on the Continent.

None of that detracts in any way from his service to his Country which counts for a hell of a lot.

 

[lookingforitallthetime]

Sorry, I was going to and I got sidetracked.


My impression was that he was heavily in favour of Big government and its' "role" in solving things. Struck me as to much of a collectivist view. A major item for me is also the "sins of the father" syndrome. I can not get past Joes outright hostility and hatred of Blighty and how he was all for encouraging FDR to cut and run from Britain and Churchill and go with the germans as the eventual winners on the Continent.

None of that detracts in any way from his service to his Country which counts for a hell of a lot.

I think a lot of Joe's motivation for his isolationistic views was born from the fact he had 2 sons who were eligible to fight in the war.

While he did make it known he thought the Nazis couldn't be stopped, I don't believe he was necessarily "anti-British".

As for JFK, I think a lot of the belief he was for big government came from his battle with big steel. The thing about that battle was the steel companies double crossed him. They signed on to a wage and price control agreement to help curb inflation. Kennedy got the unions to agree to holding wages so the steel companies could keep prices in line.

The steel companies tried to pull a fast one thinking he was weak. They underestimated him and he handled the situation masterfully, IMO. He used the full power of the government, as he should, to beat the double crossers at their own game.

 

[lookingforitallthetime]

Joe cost JFK the Medal of Honor. Papa Kennedy
seemed to be an impediment to his sons, Jack & Bobby.

Back then there was no fear of big government.
JFK was very moderate and shied away from the
civil rights movement, but was dragged into the
frey.

JFK was moderate to the extreme on today's issues.

Back then government stood for defense and security
and economic growth and pushing back communism,
our real threat.

The economy had stagnated a bit and he pushed for
changes. His economic policies were copied by Reagan.

I suggest you take a rethink JFK. When was the last
time a leader asked you to dedicate yourself to the best
interests of our country, and not ask for benefits from
our government. JFK did not expand the role of government.

He was a product of his time and not likely to be repeated.

I think this is a fair assessment.

Like him or not, he was a motivational leader and knew how to inspire. In the 40 years since, none came close to his ability in this regard.

 

[WoodPeckr]

..... Struck me as to much of a collectivist view. A major item for me is also the "sins of the father" syndrome. I can not get past Joes outright hostility and hatred of Blighty and how he was all for encouraging FDR to cut and run from Britain and Churchill and go with the germans as the eventual winners on the Continent.

None of that detracts in any way from his service to his Country which counts for a hell of a lot.

Hold on there Laddie.
Yet you fail to hold Shrub to the same standard, 'the "sins of the father" syndrome'!!!!
Did you forget it was Prescott Bush who helped Hitler's rise to power, TRADED ARMS WITH HITLER prior and a bit into WWII!!! This puts the Bush family quite a bit lower than the Kenedy family by your very standards...no?....

 

[LancsLad]

A creditable source for the assertion that the Bush family helped Hitlers rise to power would be handy.

Don't forget that the kerry hairstyle iz been funded by za heinz family, ja?????

 

[Gyaos]

Cheney returns to work today. But the word is when they electric shocked his heart, his eyes changed colour.

Gyaos.

 

[LancsLad]

Interesting, I will check it out, but there was a VERY long list of US companies that continued to trade with Nazi germany up until early in the war. It was good for business and many Yanks picked germany to win. You have to give FDR credit for going against the tide on that one. If the Joe Kennedy's of the political power base had prevailed it could have been problematic.

 

[danmand]

Interesting, I will check it out, but there was a VERY long list of US companies that continued to trade with Nazi germany up until early in the war. It was good for business and many Yanks picked germany to win. You have to give FDR credit for going against the tide on that one. If the Joe Kennedy's of the political power base had prevailed it could have been problematic.

If you read the history of the Krupps, you will know that Krupp had its guns
manufactured in England and in the US on licence during the first world war,
and continued to receive royalty payments all during the war.

Krupp was the original multinational arms dealer.

 

[danmand]

If you're going to be fair and balanced about these historical facts you'll find generalizations between fathers and sons is a poor paradigm to base your decisions on.

George HW Bush and Jack Kennedy honorably served the US in WWII.

Their conduct should speak for themselves and their fathers actions
shouldn't be used to smear their accomplishments.

You are right. That kind of treatment is reserved for germans.

 

[phaedrus01]

Only the good die young.
That does not include Cheney by any stretch of imagination

 

[LancsLad]

If you're going to be fair and balanced about these historical facts you'll find generalizations between fathers and sons is a poor paradigm to base your decisions on.

George HW Bush and Jack Kennedy honorably served the US in WWII.

Their conduct should speak for themselves and their fathers actions
shouldn't be used to smear their accomplishments.

I'll concede on that point.