Do agency's keep copies of our numbers. C36 issue
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lol, i hear the military is resorting back to the Draft to combat this evil deed. All hands on deck. Chill people, seriously.
Andy
Agency of 5 girls, average working 4 days per week, average clients of 5 per day (no repeat clients) = 4,160, better? So you would be in row 8,320 to 12,480.
So your speculation is more reasonable that they will select one guy that booked 2 to 3 years ago?
I said in an earlier post we DO delete records, why are you saying I don’t?
I only keep records of clients who are blacklisted to protect the girls we represent. Are you saying we should delete their records as well and allow them the opportunity to assault the service providers we represent and other service providers in the industry? You support assaulting service providers? Wow, you’re mean.
I am responsible for the conduct of other agencies? While I appreciate intellectual exploration, you're only making accusations and aggravating. If you're going to ask of me not to give excuses, I'm going to ask of you to make sense.
Don
TDL
https://www.straight.com/news/77740...law-wont-change-policing-priorities-vancouver,
Capital Hunter, i really dont think you should lose sleep over hobbying 2 or 3 years ago. lol . This article is pretty much inline with every law enforcement official my lawyers and i have spoken to here in Toronto, Ottawa and Montreal. Their priority is how the girls are treated. Not your blue balls lol
Andy
Capital Hunter, i really dont think you should lose sleep over hobbying 2 or 3 years ago. lol . This article is pretty much inline with every law enforcement official my lawyers and i have spoken to here in Toronto, Ottawa and Montreal. Their priority is how the girls are treated. Not your blue balls lol
Andy
They're giving giving Mel Lastman the honor to call the army in again. lmao
Who's hasn't been arrested? No-oooobody.
I can't believe the amount of paranoia displayed by someone who claimed to have last seen a sp over two years ago. For all I know you might just be saying that thinking it might be safer for you to post here.
Like you claimed you did, I retired from this hobby almost 3 years ago (seemed like my last life lol) but I absolutely have no worries about getting into legal troubles resulting from my past hobby. I'm only here because I'm interested in discussing the legality of C-36.
Like a few said on this board before, the chances you get arrested are almost 0 unless knowingly or unknowingly you had sex with an under aged sp. Even if you did, the worse case scenario IMHO would be LE wanting to interview you for info that would assist their investigation. Even that, chances are slim because the sp you saw two years ago is likely no longer in the business and would not be a subject of any investigation. Unless you had left incriminating evidence (like subsequent written correspondence admitting that you did have sex with the under aged sp) it would be next to impossible for them to mount enough evidence to justify laying charges against you.
You are an example of the short term influence of C-36. The bill has successfully created paranoia and fears among hobbyists and will no doubt kill the demand for a period of time. How long will this effect last remains to be seen.
I don't think no amount of assurance you get from this board will subside your fears, my only suggestion is you totally disconnect your association with this board, because there is probably 100 times more incriminating evidence of your past hobby than you've ever left elsewhere. Besides, if you keep reading opinions from guys like fugi, fear and anxiety will probably kill you before you ever get busted.
I have no idea but I do know some independent SPs do. If you're concerned I'd be concerned about this.
Because by constantly talking about this back and forth it is making it seem like you are freaking out. The others, I don't think they have made as many posts as you have in this, thus far, two page thread. We are telling you to keep calm and get a grip. You are safe unless you did something completely illegal. The law starts Dec 6th or 7th.
Heck, by constantly talking about it, you yourself are making yourself known again, hence they might just target you afterall. LMAO!!
Am I scaring you?Stay calm my fellow Ottawa citizen. If it still keeps you up at night, go to a law firm and talk to a lawyer for an hour or two.
Good luck and sleep well.
Let me expand. You make an appointment with a known SP for any reason. She puts your name and number in an appointment book which she keeps. If she is arrested by the police for whatever they have that book and your number. If they wish they can contact you as part of an on going investigation to ask you questions. FYI The arrest does not have to be sex related for this to happen.
I'm just throwing this out there as I know some SPs do keep those appointment books.
As long as the client didint write something stupid in the message as" Can you give me a bj for a hundred?" and she replied "Yes!" and it got into the hands of cops client and Sp will be fine. Even if that message got into the hands of cops they cant prove that it actually happen. In the text message always ask something like "how much to spend and hour with you?" and you will be fine
Thank you. It's become boring and tiresome to have so many irrational pusillanimous fearmongers among us remaining pussy-loving whoremongers.
It depends how much effort the police want to put into it. Again, as I mentioned in the other thread, they can simply issue a subpoena and require the SP to testify under oath, on pain of perjury. Since the SP has nothing to lose by telling the truth, and faces jail time if it's proved she lied under oath, my guess is that most SP's simply co-operate and testify that the money was for sex.
Issuing a subpoena and threatening the SP with perjury is a lot of work for the police/crown, but if they have some motivation to pursue charges, they can certainly do that.
Note that this is dramatically different than the situation in the US, where the SP would be confessing to a crime and therefore would have a self interest in denying prostitution as well as a right to refuse to incriminate herself. Under the Nordic model that we have since she isn't incriminating herself she can be forced to testify -- which makes the legal situation dramatically different than in the US where 5th amendment rights, etc., would make putting the SP on the stand as a witness for the prosecution pretty much impossible except in some rare situations.
Don't wait until Dec 6. Stop posting now, all you do is repeat yourself over and over and over and over again.
They cant threaten ladies with anything. They cant force them to testify in court for something they are allowed to do. They are allowed to work, have body guards, booker and legally operate out of incall or do outcalls. They are untouchable by the cops. Please read the law.
You don't get what a subpoena is. Google it.
If you are a material witness to a crime, any crime, you can be forced to appear in court and testify under oath as to what you saw and heard. If you lie under oath you can be charged with perjury. If you refuse to testify you can be hauled into jail for contempt of court. This is true whether you are a witness to a murder, a theft, or a sex crime. Witnesses who are not accused of any crime themselves can be forced to testify.
The SP is certainly a material witness to the purchase of sex by her customers, and she is also a material witness to the operation of the agency. She can testify whether the agency owner is really selling her an arms length service that is available to non prostitutes and she can testify that her clients knew they were purchasing sex.
Her testimony under oath on the stand will blow away many of your assumptions about what the police and crown can prove in court.
I know what it means and I have read the bill and didn't see it there. From what I understand that girls will not be forced to testify and if you see something different in the bill please show me. So basically until we see it in the bill that girls can be forced by the policy to testify, your argument makes no sense. From what I understand the girls are untouchable by the police. If you think I am wrong please find it in the bill C36 and show me. Thanks
Section 698 of the Criminal Code as quoted in the other thread.
The girls cannot be charged but your mistake is to think that somehow means they cannot be called as witnesses in a case against the customer or agency.
Being called as a witness is not being prosecuted or accused of anything. Anyone who has knowledge of a criminal act can be called as a witness, unless they would be testifying against themselves.
The girls cannot be charged but your mistake is to think that somehow means they cannot be called as witnesses in a case against the customer or agency.
Being called as a witness is not being prosecuted or accused of anything. Anyone who has knowledge of a criminal act can be called as a witness, unless they would be testifying against themselves.
That would put the girls in danger. Forcing them to testify against their clients is crazy.Cops or the judge will never have enough proof to force a girl to testify against her client.There must be a big reason for the judge to in force it and there is nothing like that in the new bill regarding prostitution laws
