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Anbarandy

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apparently the private sector is able to afford 5.6% wage increases (passed onto the consumer via inflation)
the Ontario provincial government is not

do you want free health care or do you want wealthy school janitors ?
you cannot have both

Game over, case closed.
But of course!

Your post is quite simply the dumbest, worst reasoned and factually false statement i have had the misfortune to stumble across on this board.
 

JohnLarue

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But of course!

Your post is quite simply the dumbest, worst reasoned and factually false statement i have had the misfortune to stumble across on this board.

The $ 380 Billion in provincial debt says I am right

2019
Ontario, world's largest sub-sovereign debtor, to detail path to balance - BNN Bloomberg
It’s also the world’s largest sub-sovereign borrower, according to Moody’s Investors Service,
the debt bomb has not improved since 2019

ill-conceived loonie left rhetoric is no response to facts and the harsh reality of excessive debt

try using facts and logic
get someone to help you if facts and logic continues to confuse you
 
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danmand

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The $ 380 Billion in provincial debt says I am right

2019
Ontario, world's largest sub-sovereign debtor, to detail path to balance - BNN Bloomberg

the debt bomb has not improved since 2019

ill-conceived loonie left rhetoric is no response to facts and the harsh reality of excessive debt

try using facts and logic
get someone to help you if facts and logic continues to confuse you
Why are you worried about the debt of Ontario. All western governments are in huge debts, that will never be paid back.

Start with worrying about the debt of USA, because where the USA goes, we go also. USA borrows money to pay the interest on its debt. It will never be paid back.

Only hyper inflation will take care of the debt. Then you can sit and worry about Ontario's debt.
 

JohnLarue

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Why are you worried about the debt of Ontario. All western governments are in huge debts, that will never be paid back.
what part of rising interest rates do you not understand?

billions of incremental interest costs will have to be paid,,,,, every year,
that is money which will not be spent on health care , infrastructure or education

Start with worrying about the debt of USA, because where the USA goes, we go also. USA borrows money to pay the interest on its debt. It will never be paid back.
foolish thinking like yours is what has created this problem
lenders will stop lending to fools who have no intention of paying the loan back


Only hyper inflation will take care of the debt. Then you can sit and worry about Ontario's debt.
wrong
universal health care is not sustainable with massive irresponsible public debt
As a bonus for you, universal health care will fall apart just when you start to need it the most

btw irresponsible borrowing and the printing of money is what causes hyper-inflation

the mathematics of compound interest does not lie & severely punishes fools who ignore it
 
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Frankfooter

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But of course!

Your post is quite simply the dumbest, worst reasoned and factually false statement i have had the misfortune to stumble across on this board.
So about average for a larue post.

Ford can't say the province is poor when he sent $386 million back to parents with his $200 payment.
Not when the CUPE raise only costs $200 milliion.
 

danmand

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what part of rising interest rates do you not understand?

billions of incremental interest costs will have to be paid,,,,, every year,
that is money which will not be spent on health care , infrastructure or education



foolish thinking like yours is what has created this problem
lenders will stop lending to fools who have no intention of paying the loan back



wrong
universal health care is not sustainable with massive irresponsible public debt
As a bonus for you, universal health care will fall apart just when you start to need it the most

btw irresponsible borrowing and the printing of money is what causes hyper-inflation

the mathematics of compound interest does not lie & severely punishes fools who ignore it
No, you are wrong. Nobody will be able to pay the interest. You think Ontario will be fine if the $US become worthless?

I find it strange that you only worry about the Universal health care. Expenses to the military and tax breaks for the rich are OK in your books.

I actually believe the conservatives on Canada will succeed on canceling the Universal health care, so there will be more money for Ukraine, the military and tax relief for the rich. The deficit will increase, as it always does during conservative governments.
 

Anbarandy

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So about average for a larue post.

Ford can't say the province is poor when he sent $386 million back to parents with his $200 payment.
Not when the CUPE raise only costs $200 milliion.
And the $1billion yearly loss of revenue from the 'vehicle sticker' fee he axed to bribe the electorate just before the election.

And the $300-$400million of already signed green energy contracts he flushed down the toilet as soon as his fat ass squashed his Emperor's throne and the billions of $$$s that he will lavish upon the private sector to make up the shortfall that he created to meet the electrical demands of the province in the short term future.

And the billions in yearly corporate and super wealthy tax breaks that he is gleefully showering upon his true constitents.

Never mind, the billions that he is in the process of personally delivering to the property development industry by demolishing the legal, societal and civic safeguards that have been in place for decades to ensure sustainability of the public good and benefit, all NOT in the name of building one iota of affordable housing, but in a patently weak opaque policy of enriching his private sector developer bosses.

All in all, a pathetically "we see exactly what you're doing you pathetic piece of shit" attempt by his honorable shitness to degrade and demolish well over a century of the public and social compact and hand over the remaining entrails to the private sector.
 
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Ghbff

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Where’s the freedumb convoy now to stand up for the rights of Ontario union workers? Not a single peep from those fools.
 

Ghbff

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Ghbff

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what part of rising interest rates do you not understand?

billions of incremental interest costs will have to be paid,,,,, every year,
that is money which will not be spent on health care , infrastructure or education



foolish thinking like yours is what has created this problem
lenders will stop lending to fools who have no intention of paying the loan back



wrong
universal health care is not sustainable with massive irresponsible public debt
As a bonus for you, universal health care will fall apart just when you start to need it the most

btw irresponsible borrowing and the printing of money is what causes hyper-inflation

the mathematics of compound interest does not lie & severely punishes fools who ignore it
Buddy I don’t know why you’re commenting on economic policies when you’ve clearly demonstrated on your posts on here that you don’t quite understand how the economy works.
 

JohnLarue

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Buddy I don’t know why you’re commenting on economic policies when you’ve clearly demonstrated on your posts on here that you don’t quite understand how the economy works.
# 1. You are not my buddy
#2 If you do not understand how compound interest works then you do not understand how the economy works.
The economy grinds to a halt without credit
credit dries up when it is abused
 

JohnLarue

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Where’s the freedumb convoy now to stand up for the rights of Ontario union workers? Not a single peep from those fools.
rights do not include demanding double digit pay increases for non-skill employment

the freedom convoy folks have the right to stand up for what they feel is important and just
apparently they do not feel enriching public sector unions is important or just
They do not like their hard earned tax dollars being abused by unions
 

Ghbff

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rights do not include demanding double digit pay increases for non-skill employment

the freedom convoy folks have the right to stand up for what they feel is important and just
apparently they do not feel enriching public sector unions is important or just
They do not like their hard earned tax dollars being abused by unions
So what you’re saying is that you don’t believe in investing in education and healthcare? Got it buddy.
 

Ghbff

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# 1. You are not my buddy
#2 If you do not understand how compound interest works then you do not understand how the economy works.
The economy grinds to a halt without credit
credit dries up when it is abused
Buddy, just stop. It’s you who doesn’t understand how the economy works. You’re just repeating republican talking points blaming inflation on Liberals when the fed had the money printer going at 100% while trump was in office.
 

Frankfooter

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No, you are wrong. Nobody will be able to pay the interest. You think Ontario will be fine if the $US become worthless?

I find it strange that you only worry about the Universal health care. Expenses to the military and tax breaks for the rich are OK in your books.

I actually believe the conservatives on Canada will succeed on canceling the Universal health care, so there will be more money for Ukraine, the military and tax relief for the rich. The deficit will increase, as it always does during conservative governments.
Modern monetary theory, debts aren't bad any more.
 

JohnLarue

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No, you are wrong. Nobody will be able to pay the interest. You think Ontario will be fine if the $US become worthless?
wrong again, Ontario will go into default long before the $US becomes worthless


I find it strange that you only worry about the Universal health care. Expenses to the military and tax breaks for the rich are OK in your books.
our military has already been gutted to the point it is a danger to the few troops serving
The top 20% pay 61% of the taxes in Canada -they pay their fair share and then some

I actually believe the conservatives on Canada will succeed on canceling the Universal health care, so there will be more money for Ukraine, the military and tax relief for the rich.
Universal health care is doomed independent of who is governing in the future due to
1. The debt burden- Justin has borrowed more than all previous PMs combined (dating back to Sir John A MacDonald)
2, Demographics & utilization rates
3. Health Care inflation

You want what you want, you want it now and you want someone else to pay for it.
That is a selfish child's mentality


The deficit will increase, as it always does during conservative governments
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Justin has borrowed more than all previous PMs combined (dating back to Sir John A MacDonald)
He has created a mess that will be next to impossible to fix-
That sad fact will not make the resulting pain , suffering and misery go away

A conservative government will put a stop to the cause- irresponsible excessive govt spending
And offer some hope that future generations will not be burden with paying for your foolish idealism

Your approach is unbelievably irresponsible
 

JohnLarue

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So what you’re saying is that you don’t believe in investing in education and healthcare? Got it buddy.

no you do not get it
you cannot invest in anything when burdened with unsustainable debt and rising interest rates

besides granting double digit raises for four years running to non-skilled union employees is not an investment
it's called a shake-down

BTW- Do not try to misrepresent me
You lack the intelligence to understand the simple fundamentals of debt and borrowing
So you are not equipped to tell me what I am saying
 

Ghbff

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no you do not get it
you cannot invest in anything when burdened with unsustainable debt and rising interest rates

besides granting double digit raises for four years running to non-skilled union employees is not an investment
it's called a shake-down

BTW- Do not try to misrepresent me
You lack the intelligence to understand the simple fundamentals of debt and borrowing
So you are not equipped to tell me what I am saying
Bro they’re asking for a $3 raise. Doug Ford is ruining health care and education in this province and you’re vilifying the educational workers who are asking for a living wage? Get your head out of your ass
 
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Ghbff

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no you do not get it
you cannot invest in anything when burdened with unsustainable debt and rising interest rates

besides granting double digit raises for four years running to non-skilled union employees is not an investment
it's called a shake-down

BTW- Do not try to misrepresent me
You lack the intelligence to understand the simple fundamentals of debt and borrowing
So you are not equipped to tell me what I am saying
The funny thing is that CUPE members constitutional rights are being revoked but your freedumb buddies aren’t making a peep. You really continue to sip the Conservative kool aid and it shows buddy
 
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