European Refugee Crisis
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Killed by whom... ISIS? Maybe you have a point.
Sunnis that make up 76% of the Army as former Assad killers? Retaliation from whom? 76% of Syrians who are their relatives?
Interesting that when the 'butcher' Assad's forces liberate Christian towns from ISIS, they are greeted like heros. Christian militias are trained, armed and funded by the Assad regime. The alternative is beheadings at the hands of ISIS, or ethnic cleansing of Christians and the other 24% of Syrians who are not Sunni.
Anyway, 76% of the Syrian Army is composed of Sunnis. It would be easy for them to switch sides en masse, leading to its collapse. But they keep on fighting for Assad. Why? because he's the only alternative to an ISIS led fundamentalist head chopping state. ISIS was originally funded and equiped by another fundamentalist head-chopping state: Saudi Arabia.
Don't believe the garbage you see on mainstream media. They just repeat the narrative the neo-cons and neo-liberals want you to believe.
The US created this massive refugee crisis by arming, transporting, training and funding foreign jihadists for the purpose of waging war in Syria and overthrowing the Assad regime. Major blowback affecting Europe, but nobody seems to care how this mess started.
Maybe it's about time they were branded as racists and bigots. But not by Harper because that could jeopardize the 15 billion dollar armoured vehicle deal Canada is selling Saudi Arabia.
For a) by their subservient and fearful fellow soldiers; for c) by anyone with a grudge including ISIS.
To switch sides would take a large number of them who can confidently discuss things free of threat from those who are strongly committed to Assad and there would be a great many who feel their somewhat comfortable existence is too much to risk with joining a revolt.
And IS isn't the only alternative. When the civil war started IS wasn't involved and the Sunni Islamists were on the fringes of things. IS may have become one of the better funded 'rebel' groups but they are far from the only ones.
There is no alternative to ISIS. The remaining groups are just as bad. What was the US funded 'Free Syrian Army' does not really exist anymore, as their members have either been wiped out, sold their weapons to ISIS and run, or reportedly most have joined ISIS. Maybe ISIS disn't exist when the US/Saudi funded insurgency started, but they do now and the original situation is gone forever. There are few so-called moderate rebels left; the most recently US trained ones were ambushed almost as soon as they set foot in Syria. The other ones, like the 'moderate' heart-eating Jabhat Al-Nusra Front are just as evil, although some US neo-cons and the Israelis were recently trying to make us believe that they are 'moderate' so as to be seen as still supporting an opposition to Assad for his overthrow. Israel is providing support to them, because the primary object is to overthrow Assad, and accept a territory next door where chaos reigns at the hand of terrorists.
The ones committed to Assad are members of his own group, the Alawites, who represent the majority of the officer corps, but only 14% of the population. However, the officer corps has a lot of Christians and Sunnis also, and 76% of the army is still Sunni, and it's very easy to drive your tank and your 2 other 'Sunni' crewmen (in a T-72) away towards enemy lines; the army is intermixed, and the sunnis are the majority in most units. You have no idea of the existential threat ISIS poses to secular Syria. The fact that nobody in the army wants to defect to ISIS is because of the consequences, and that ISIS is now squeezing Assad's Syria into a quarter of what it used to be, means that there is nowhere to go except fighting for your homeland or flee to refugee camps in neighbouring countries or Europe.
Politically, the 'Moderate Syrian Opposition" and Syrian government in exile was a greater joke. It was composed of US paid-off exiled Syrians, some of whom had been away living in the US for at least a couple of decades, and some of whom who were, curiously enough, living very near Langley VA (CIA HQ) or within spitting distance of Capitol Hill. Their coalition of dissidents was never able to achieve a consensus, and all cohesiveness fell apart in 2012.
There was a local Syrian Sunni opposition, and they had been working with Assad for better representation, but they got eclipsed by the US funded exiles, and then the civil war funded by the Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the US.
An example of how little support the US funded Moderate Syrian Opposition had amongst Syrians, is when one of their representatives came to Ottawa to explain their position and try to whip up support. The meeting (I think it was in a Carleton University building) had barely started and there were maybe a couple of dozen people in attendance, when a group of middle-aged or older ladies with handbags started shouting 'Get him! the Judas! Kill him!' and this gaggle of old ladies chased him out of the building and onto the parking lot. There was also a pro-Assad march in Ottawa last year, from Elgin Ave to Sussex Drive in front of the US Embassy with about 200 Sysrians and Lebanese marching. A large portrait of Assad was carried foremost, and pro-Assad chants were quite evident. I had a dentist recently who is Syrian, tell me how wrong it was for Assad to be vilified; Assad is the only one who can get the various groups to live together in Syria, and who can guarantee religious rights to minorities, including the 10% Christina population and the Shiites. The Free Syrian Army had already been desecrating and looting churches and convents and monasteries, and they were US and Saudi funded. Imagine what ISIS is doing. Christian Syrians are openly fearing that their fate will be a repetition of the mass exile and elimination of Iraqi Christians from Iraq since 2003. There are only 10% left out of total Christian population of over 1.5 million.
This is the sort of brainwash commonly occurring in the US. And millions of viewers actually believe this garbage. That's why I post sometimes 'too much Fox News' to someone obviously repeating this sort of nonsense.
This is what is called Manufacturing Consent (for war). The US mainstream media (the worst being Fox) keeps on repeating this hysteria, especially simplifying complex issues into 'good guy/bad guy' or 'white hat/black hat' polarisation so that those who control the media get the general population to sway in the direction the power brokers want them to go.
That's what led to the US population going along with the destruction of the Libyan state, after they put a black hat on bad guy Qadaffi accusing his regime of the most horrifying acts 'against his own people'. Actually, there was an uprising in the East, a combination of monarchists and Al-Qaida offshoots, but the press in the US conveniently forgot to tell the viewers just who those protesters were.
The same process took place prior to the US invasion of Iraq, spreading the hysteria that Saddam was 45 minutes away from nuking the UK. Milocevich was demonized as a prelude to the NATO attack on Serbia, while they ignored the atrocities committed by the other groups.
Although the pretext is always saving the local population from their tyrant, the real goal is control and subservience of countries so as to allow 'freedom' for their trans-national corporations to strip those countries of their resourscs and wealth.
Notice how Putin has been the US MSM punching bag for the last few years. That's because Russia is following a foreign policy that is not subservient to US geopolitical goals. The ultimate goal of the US is to undermine Russia so that it breaks into little pieces that will be easier for the US to bring into their economic empire. Then they corrupting those leaders, especially if they are not elected.
It's colonialism as it was in the 18th and 19th centuries, except that the media now plays a greater role than before.
Wilbur, I study the JFK Assassination. A researcher, James DiEugenio, talks about JFK's foreign policy as a motive for his assassination, and cites, as one example, the assassination of Patrice Lumumba, to permit transnational corporations to install a friendly government to permit the exploitation of the Congo's resources to their benefit, instead of more wealth accruing to that country's native population - something that upset JFK when it happened.
http://www.orwelltoday.com/jfkcongophone.jpg
They were also upset at the assassination of President Diem of Viet-Nam in 1962. The only wanted him removed; they didn't actually want him killed. The CIA misunderstood their instructions and things went too far.
Reminds me of one of Joseph Stalin's ministers. He wanted him eliminated but he got sick in the meantime. So they postponed the assassination. Stalin sent him a get well card. As soon as he was recovered, the NKVD bumped him off.... Nothing personal.
Cia factbook estimates that by 2030 muslims will be 10 percent of population of france
Will never happen. Our local Muslims love the West.http://news.sky.com/story/1551760/al-qaeda-calls-for-lone-wolf-attacks-on-west
“They’re not refugees. This is an invasion,” said Bishop Laszlo Kiss-Rigo, whose dominion stretches across the southern reaches of this predominantly Catholic nation. “They come here with cries of ‘Allahu Akbar.’ They want to take over.”
https://creepingsharia.wordpress.co...wrong-on-refugees-actually-a-muslim-invasion/
https://creepingsharia.wordpress.co...wrong-on-refugees-actually-a-muslim-invasion/
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The scary thing to me about yelling out "Allahu Akbar" which means "God is Great" is that some of them scream the same things just before they behead an innocent victim or set them ablaze.
No. I call horseshit.
I have read everything there is to read on Russia in the last 2 years and put it in a thread of about 800 posts further down this page. Most of those posts link an article from a reputable news source.
No reputable expert or objective source supports your view. And I am not quoting Fox News or CNN here.
So you can cite your neo Chomskian theories all you want. They are simply not credible in the Russian context.
