Ironic thing is, I'm half-drunk as I'm posting this![]()
Doesn't surprise me. You've been lapping at that beer for weeks!
Ironic thing is, I'm half-drunk as I'm posting this![]()
Not me, just my little doggieDoesn't surprise me. You've been lapping at that beer for weeks!
Lapping what beer up for weeks??Doesn't surprise me. You've been lapping at that beer for weeks!
Somewhere in your post you're being a bully toward short obese kids.I would go further than that as I think that, just like American gun nuts, he was just waiting for the slightest justification for a chance to shoot someone and be a hero.
He was an outrageous bully towards a kid who was clearly not right mentally and emotionally. Screaming and swearing at him within seconds of arriving and not even getting a feel for the situation.. Taunting him and daring him to step one foot forward and he;''l shoot him etc. He was perceived as so little of a threat, that his female partner put her gun away!
Forcillo has a record of drawing his gun on many occasions such that it was something that was notable on his record.
Seems to me like some short ass fat kid who was bullied as a kid and decided to be a cop to be a bully himself.
Never should have made it through to be a police officer in the first place and gives good coppers a bad name.
Good riddance!
Too bad the case of poor Tamir Rice didn't have players with the same eyes and thought process. Glad to see shit like this not go unpunished in Canada.Not only that, but they receive specific training on how to deal with this stuff. He disregarded that training and instead was more concerned about his safety and felt murdering this kid was the safest course of action to protect his yellow bellied ass.
I think if anything good will come of all this, is that police will be much better trained in dealing with psychos or drug addicts.Not only that, but they receive specific training on how to deal with this stuff. He disregarded that training and instead was more concerned about his safety and felt murdering this kid was the safest course of action to protect his yellow bellied ass
In the Forcillo case most people would have done a better job, they would not have tried to escalate the situation by being a bully and they would not have shot first without reason. My bet is someone else would have simply locked the doors and waited to talk it out. Remember the other officers there did not feel the need to draw their weapons or be an abusive bullyI think if anything good will come of all this, is that police will be much better trained in dealing with psychos or drug addicts.
I also think that the public needs to be a bit more sympathetic when it comes to cops and the difficult job that they have. Its all too easy for us to say how we all could've handled a situation like this much better, but the truth is none of us know how we deal with a crisis situation until we're actually dealt with it head-on!!!!
Anywho, thats just my 2 cents worth
A very erudite analysis of a complex topic. Impressive.Somewhere in your post you're being a bully toward short obese kids.
In the Forcillo case most people would have done a better job, they would not have tried to escalate the situation by being a bully and they would not have shot first without reason. My bet is someone else would have simply locked the doors and waited to talk it out. Remember the other officers there did not feel the need to draw their weapons or be an abusive bully
the union definitely has a defence fund for their members, and it's something they actively fundraise for. I wouldn't be surprised if this case is or will be used in planned fundraising appeals.
Exactly. He acted like Dirty Harry.exactly. Even if Officer "Lethal" Force-illo didn't know how to lock the doors etc...could have baked off a bit without challenging Yatim to "Make my Day"
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True although I wonder if Forcillo showed the effects of having taken roids.This is ridiculous logic. Forcillo showed much more intent than a drunk driver ever would.
Drunk drivers are stupid and make stupid mistakes.
Cops are not stupid. Plus they are sober, which means they must be held to a much higher regard
I am sorry that is just NOT GOOD ENOUGH. There were already indicators in Forcillos behavior on previous arrests that he was too lose with drawing his firearm. Deploying your firearm as an officer is viewed as a VERY SERIOUS THING. Many go an entire career without doing so. These are the types of cops we need. Officers that DO hesitate and are willing to risk injury to protect civilian life. We hope all officers do go home safe at the end of the day, but the job does have dangers and should only be staffed with courageous and service minded individuals that can deal with it. Others bring the force into disrepute.I think if anything good will come of all this, is that police will be much better trained in dealing with psychos or drug addicts.
I also think that the public needs to be a bit more sympathetic when it comes to cops and the difficult job that they have. Its all too easy for us to say how we all could've handled a situation like this much better, but the truth is none of us know how we deal with a crisis situation until we're actually dealt with it head-on!!!!
Anywho, thats just my 2 cents worth
Yeah and the fucking PUSSY ETF cops wasted 5 hours talking with him and taking him peacefully to get some mental health help.Man holding a knife on a TTC bus earlier to-day.
The jury found Forcillo not guilty of anything regarding the first 3 shots. If he'd stopped there, Forcillo would now be back out on the streets, with his badge and his gun. The jury's verdict effectively grants Canadian police a licence to kill.A great break through in holding police accountable in Toronto. . . the jury I think made it very difficult to appeal. They did an OUTSTANDING job, with very clear and sophisticated reasoning. Quite amazed actually that a jury of this quality can be randomly assembled.
No -- the lesson they will learn is that it's entirely ok to arrive on the scene and shout 'stop or I'll shoot', and when the guy doesn't, you shoot him. Doesn't matter if the threat is large or small -- it's ok to go ahead and shoot him. They've learned that it's (still) ok, in Canada, to apply fatal violence -- not as a last resort -- but as a first resort.I personally am very happy because this guy killed someone in cold blood, showed no remorse, felt he should not pay ANY price. Now an example has been set that will make all cops think twice before they kill someone. Forcillo was not suitable to be a cop. Any cops out there, that have the same thoughts going through their mind when they go into a dangerous situation, SHOULD QUIT TODAY!!!!
No. The lesson here is that it's ok for police to immediately shoot people they see as a danger to themselves. No need to try pansy things like de-escalation first.I am happy because finally a cop has had to pay for the cruel disregard for human life for which we have until now seen slaps on the wrist. Thanks to cell phone video and hopefully better training, this shit will be reduced.
Has anyone (cop or non-cop) ever succeeded in having a murder written off, by having it put down to an adrenalin rush? But you're right that the second volley sealed his fate. He was not convicted of anything at all in respect of the first three shots.I wouldve had some sympathy for the guy after his first couple of shots. You couldve written that off to an adrenalin rush, or a spur of the moment thing. But the second 8-bullet volley is what sealed his fate. Clear execution. Doesnt matter if he regrets it or not.
Don't look at the Yatim murder then. The first 3 shots -- which killed the kid -- were deemed justified by the jury, and were entirely unpunished.Glad to see shit like this not go unpunished in Canada.