from Chinese Olympics to Chinese Cars

[superman]

What do you guys think of Chinese Cars? Does anyone in RFD have any experience with chinese cars? Some north American media seems to be covering Chinese cars a lot. Forbes recently did a major article on this...
http://www.forbesautos.com/advice/toptens/chinese-cars-on-sale-in-america-story.html

Here's a nice list of Chinese Cars Companies with links to the official sites
chinese car manufacturers list

 

[ig-88]

The Chery A3 reminds me of a SAAB from earlier years.

No problem with Chinese cars, as far as I'm concerned.

Whatever brings new car prices down, while preserving fuel efficiency and safety, is fine with me.

 

[tallmonster]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9YbDCvrBBk

china can never be safe because it only strives to be cheap.

The auto industry was born in North America during a time when we had a culture of quality and workmanship.

 

[jerbear]

Chinese cars made with poisonous materials
Should be 1 in every North American driveway.

 

[jerbear]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9YbDCvrBBk

china can never be safe because it only strives to be cheap.

The auto industry was born in North America during a time when we had a culture of quality and workmanship.

And that was only 5mph.

 

[RayFinkel]

A whole new slant on the car industry.

 

[dajodo2]

China is the world leader of low quality junk manufacturing.

It's what they do best, the only thing actually that sustains their economy.

Watch this crash test of a chinese made car. The name of it translated to Engwish is "shitty death box". Watch how the cabin collapses like an organ and makes chop suey of dummies that represent a mom and dad. The children may have survived but would have live the rest of their childhood as orphans if that was a real family.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amFJwdg7O1E

Disgusting.

 

[HAMSTER INSPECTOR]

Do you realy believe that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9YbDCvrBBk

china can never be safe because it only strives to be cheap.

The auto industry was born in North America during a time when we had a culture of quality and workmanship.

If you take three factories, one in Japan, one in Cambridge Ontario, and One in China, and you gave them the same design and asked them to source all their materials from their own country and make a car with the same specifications. Which factory do you think will produce the cheapest car? Just like Toyota Corollas and Honda Civics are built in Ontario and have not suffered damage to their good reputations. The Chinese can produce a quality product. It is not a matter of IF but When these cars will arrive.
As a business owner, if a car was availble to me for a lower price than what is availble now, and if the quality was as good as the cars now availble. Why would I want to buy a American or Japanese car for company use? Of course there are times when some key people have to drive luxury cars to keep the image of the business up. Then a lexus or Jaguar is in order, but for people that run around the city on company businees. Something like a Civic or equivilent will do just fine. Why not a Chinese car? The clarion call to buy these cars is when you hear on the cunsumer reports that these care are just as good, just as safe and at half the price. Quality and safety can be built into any product.

 

[mmouse]

China is the world leader of low quality junk manufacturing.

And North America is the world leader in low quality junk consumption.
Which means China is the world leader in taking your money.
So go ahead, don't buy any Chinese made junk (good luck with that).

 

[superman]

And that was only 5mph.

have u seen a ford at 4mph

 

[tboy]

have u seen a ford at 4mph

No, they don't drive that slow.....and unless you can provide proof that they don't pass our rigorous safety standards, I won't be taking your word for it.

As for the comparison about who could make the cheapest product of the same design, that's fine, but the design of the chinese cars is crap. It isn't just the manufacturing or assembly of the item, it is the design and engineering involved.

I highly doubt you will ever see any chinese cars sold in north america because of:
1) they have to pass our crash tests and if they fail? No entry. I mean hell, they ban some cars from coming into Canada because they don't have bilingual gauges.....
2) Copyright/patent infringements: no vehicle will be sold in Canada that violates any patent or copyright. There was a thread on here with a link that showed many chinese models that were shown side by side with the original mercedes, BMW etc. We're not talking similar, we're talking a direct copy right down to the badging.
3) Quality/warranty: if the vehicles are crap, even if they pass the tests, what good is a vehicle that is always in the shop for repairs?

I mean, some toys slipped by with lead in the paint etc and they were all pulled. The testing on vehicles is quite extensive and I can guarantee you, a vehicle that cannot pass the minimum safety requirements will NOT be allowed into the country.

Here:

"The Motor Vehicle Safety Act and Regulations require that all vehicles imported into Canada comply, at the time of importation, with the Canada Motor Vehicle Safety Standards in effect on the date the vehicle was manufactured. Vehicles manufactured for sale in countries other than Canada and the United States do not comply with the requirements of the Canada Motor Vehicle Safety Act, CANNOT be altered to comply and CANNOT be imported into Canada."

 

[anon1]

Why am I reminded of the Yugo and Lada.

Also Skoda and Dacia.
All available in Canada for a short time.

 

[oldjones]

China is the world leader of low quality junk manufacturing.

It's what they do best, the only thing actually that sustains their economy.

Watch this crash test of a chinese made car. The name of it translated to Engwish is "shitty death box". Watch how the cabin collapses like an organ and makes chop suey of dummies that represent a mom and dad. The children may have survived but would have live the rest of their childhood as orphans if that was a real family.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amFJwdg7O1E

Disgusting.

Replace "chinese" w/ "japanese" and date this post in the sixties. Wrong then, wrong now. It's only a matter of time, bro', the future comes to us all.

 

[anonemouse]

I highly doubt you will ever see any chinese cars sold in north america because of:

1) they have to pass our crash tests and if they fail? No entry. I mean hell, they ban some cars from coming into Canada because they don't have bilingual gauges.....

Seconding this.

China has become a world leader in churning out high volumes of low quality products. The safety standards in North America are pretty high. I can't see them upping the quality to produce cars for a crowded North American market. They would be smart to focus their efforts in Asia and India both of which are growing markets.

Why go to the time, trouble, and effort of adapting their cars to North America when they can use that time, trouble and effort to produce cars and have them on the market in a matter of months?

(Sorry to edit your post, TBoy)

 

[tboy]

Seconding this.

.......

(Sorry to edit your post, TBoy)

Hey no problem and you make a good point. Since China is supposedly the next economic giant/superpower, what do they care about the lowly North Americans?

As for the Japanese/Chinese analogy, that's pretty good. Honda's rep when they first starting selling in Canada was "good cheap reliable". I think it was the early 80's when they started producing higher end vehicles and their prices reflected this.

 

[tallmonster]

If you take three factories, one in Japan, one in Cambridge Ontario, and One in China, and you gave them the same design and asked them to source all their materials from their own country and make a car with the same specifications. Which factory do you think will produce the cheapest car? Just like Toyota Corollas and Honda Civics are built in Ontario and have not suffered damage to their good reputations. The Chinese can produce a quality product. It is not a matter of IF but When these cars will arrive.
As a business owner, if a car was availble to me for a lower price than what is availble now, and if the quality was as good as the cars now availble. Why would I want to buy a American or Japanese car for company use? Of course there are times when some key people have to drive luxury cars to keep the image of the business up. Then a lexus or Jaguar is in order, but for people that run around the city on company businees. Something like a Civic or equivilent will do just fine. Why not a Chinese car? The clarion call to buy these cars is when you hear on the cunsumer reports that these care are just as good, just as safe and at half the price. Quality and safety can be built into any product.

lol what kind of business rational is that, I don't think you have any grounding in global economics. Importing slave made goods is not a sustainable model in society based on consuming manufactured goods.. The only ones that justify it are the company spin doctors. that is why you are trained to think linearly about business and not care about the future of North American manufacturing or North America as a whole

this is china
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxT-f-hb8Sg

this canada
http://www.labour.gov.on.ca/english/news/court_news.html

this is the result buying an alternative "just as good " cheaper import.
http://www.maynards.com/EN/industrial_equipment/industrial_auctions/

people are programed not to believe in their countries anymore.
manufacturing was born here. The US was the leader in technology and imports in the world, back in the day. Now it is nothing but Walmart jobs

 

[dajodo2]

They would be smart to focus their efforts in Asia and India both of which are growing markets.

(Sorry to edit your post, TBoy)

Where human life is cheap.

 

[jerbear]

have u seen a ford at 4mph

Good point , not all North American cars are good.

 

[dajodo2]

Good point , not all North American cars are good.

Not one North American designed and built car would behave so poorly as that made in china piece o' shit.

Not one.

I thought chinese people has a reputation of being smart. Whomever designed and built that car weren't.

 

[superman]

Not worried, they have small Chinese penis, not big like American penis, so smaw. What can they do against us and our large American [and Canadian] penis.

chinese men must feel inferior at times, most of their women go for white males