Gambling cheat...

[mrsix]

I wasn't sure if this should be posted in gaming or here, it's more of a morality question.

Recently I have discovered a way to increase my odds at a very popular casino game. The method is not illegal, but it is immoral, and would affect other players of the game (monetarily). Getting caught is a possibility, but for the purpose of this thread disregard the legal consequences.

If you had a surefire way to increase your odds at the casino, and other players would be affected negatively by it (not just the casino), would you do it? I want to try it and publish the method for others, but even with my moral flexibility, it doesn't quite sit right...yet.

Thoughts?

 

[69Shooter]

I wasn't sure if this should be posted in gaming or here, it's more of a morality question.

Recently I have discovered a way to increase my odds at a very popular casino game. The method is not illegal, but it is immoral, and would affect other players of the game (monetarily). Getting caught is a possibility, but for the purpose of this thread disregard the legal consequences.

If you had a surefire way to increase your odds at the casino, and other players would be affected negatively by it (not just the casino), would you do it? I want to try it and publish the method for others, but even with my moral flexibility, it doesn't quite sit right...yet.

Thoughts?

I am skeptical of your claim! Casinos have been around a long time. What are the chances that you've come up with a legal ​way to better your odds?

 

[Terminator2000]

I am skeptical of your claim! Casinos have been around a long time. What are the chances that you've come up with a legal ​way to better your odds?

she said legal consequences.

means that its not legal.

Never mind. she said its not illegal.

 

[mrsix]

To be honest, it may be illegal, I'm not entirely certain on that point, but assume that I am willing to take that risk. The question is, considering that it affects others playing would you still do it?

 

[sasemohan123]

... The method is not illegal, but it is immoral, and would affect other players of the game (monetarily).
Thoughts?

I do not gamble, but i do know that certain ways players have developed over the years to tip the odds in their favour are frown upon by the casino. The best example is counting cards, which is a mental skill not many can master and in theory is not cheating, but try it and you will see you are banned very quick. Moral question? Against the other players, not the house? I'm lost...

 

[vulcan99]

I wasn't sure if this should be posted in gaming or here, it's more of a morality question.

Recently I have discovered a way to increase my odds at a very popular casino game. The method is not illegal, but it is immoral, and would affect other players of the game (monetarily). Getting caught is a possibility, but for the purpose of this thread disregard the legal consequences.

If you had a surefire way to increase your odds at the casino, and other players would be affected negatively by it (not just the casino), would you do it? I want to try it and publish the method for others, but even with my moral flexibility, it doesn't quite sit right...yet.

Thoughts?

absolutely.

 

[69Shooter]

To be honest, it may be illegal, I'm not entirely certain on that point, but assume that I am willing to take that risk. The question is, considering that it affects others playing would you still do it?

Huge difference my friend!

But, assuming that it was not illegal then, yes, I would do it. But again, I question whether or not you have really discovered a way to shift the odds in your favor. Just for discussion purposes... what is the casino game you are talking about?

 

[Carling]

also the Choe Method....google Dave Choe gambling strategy...apparently he's made tonnes of money

 

[simon482]

yup as i am certain they would do it to me if given the chance.

 

[simon482]

Fuck yeah!

Gambling is a fucking fools game played by people why consent to having ALL their money disappear by their own sense of greed.

most people go to the casino with an acceptable amount they will lose, so they are prepared to lose that much. your really just taking what they have already considered a loss. better you have it than the casino.

 

[69Shooter]

also the Choe Method....google Dave Choe gambling strategy...apparently he's made tonnes of money

Okay, i did... here is what the first hit got me:

He uses what is called the "Martingale" system which dates back to the 1700s in France.

Simply put, you double and re-double your bet each time you lose. The theory is that you will win eventually and when you do, you will have erased all your previous loses.

Bet $5. If you lose bet $10 on your next hand. Then $20, then $40, then $80, then $160, then $320, then $640, then $1,280, etc.

Even though he said it worked for him, this system has proven to be a failure.

 

[Libra]

If not you taking the other players money away then it will be the house.

As for the Martingale system which I tried years ago. It works great until you come up against an 11x losing streak, then all your winnings are erased.

Best strategy in my opinion is a win limit of 20% and a loss limit of 10%. you'll win in the long run.

Some people gamble the odd time for fun.

 

[69Shooter]

Fuck yeah!

Gambling is a fucking fools game played by people why consent to having ALL their money disappear by their own sense of greed.

Yep! If there was a proven way to consistently put the odds in your favor casino's would have disappeared a long time age.

 

[MattRoxx]

I am dubious about this 'method'. At least tell us the game.
If other players don't like what you're doing they can move to a different table. But remember if you're doing something suspicious or people complain, the casino can kick you out for any reason (or none at all). So if you make your score, cash out and get out quick!

 

[simon482]

Yep! If there was a proven way to consistently put the odds in your favor casino's would have disappeared a long time age.

casino's figured out how to do it then write laws saying your not allowed to do it back.

 

[69Shooter]

casino's figured out how to do it then write laws saying your not allowed to do it back.

Not really. Payouts are all based on mathematical odds. Because of this the odds are always set in the casino's favor. They never deviate from what the odds dictate. That's how/why they always win and, thus, stay in business.

 

[simon482]

Not really. Payouts are all based on mathematical odds. Because of this the odds are always set in the casino's favor. They never deviate from what the odds dictate. That's how/why they always win and, thus, stay in business.

so they figured out a way to put the odds consistently in their favour. like you said in your first post.

 

[mrsix]

The game is poker, and without revealing too much, I'll just say that it puts your opponents at a disadvantage that amounts to approx. a 15 - 20% shift in my favour. The casino only gets a rake or session fee, so they are not really affected. The wins are on the backs of my opponents. If it were just me screwing the casino, I wouldn't have a problem with it, but I would essentially be cheating other players.

Hope that clarifies.

 

[simon482]

The game is poker, and without revealing too much, I'll just say that it puts your opponents at a disadvantage that amounts to approx. a 15 - 20% shift in my favour. The casino only gets a rake or session fee, so they are not really affected. The wins are on the backs of my opponents. If it were just me screwing the casino, I wouldn't have a problem with it, but I would essentially be cheating other players.

Hope that clarifies.

i am sure they would do it to you and without the moral dilemma.

 

[69Shooter]

The game is poker, and without revealing too much, I'll just say that it puts your opponents at a disadvantage that amounts to approx. a 15 - 20% shift in my favour. The casino only gets a rake or session fee, so they are not really affected. The wins are on the backs of my opponents. If it were just me screwing the casino, I wouldn't have a problem with it, but I would essentially be cheating other players.

Hope that clarifies.

Does it involve surreptitiously peeking at your opponents' cards?