north americans have been noted as being the fuel hogs of the world,think of the fuel prices being cheap for the last 40 years and move forward.The americans have lost their world domination in this area,and now we are like addicts,hooked beyond belief.As with any addiction there are only a few answers,suv's and hummers not being on the list.
Gas Prices
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Hmmm is this the Inferiority Complex we hear about us Canucks having? Don't jump to conclusions based on opinion my friend. While we are 5th in the world we are a far far cry from the US.lickrolaine said:
See this link:
http://www.energy.ca.gov/gasoline/statistics/gasoline_consumption_country.php
On the above this the WHOLE of Canada is below that of just the state of California.
I will now do a search based on per capita consumption as that is the true indicator of what type of consumers we are. Remember: in europe the distance between 2 major cities is about the same as toronto to windsor and the whole of germany can fit into Hudson's Bay so naturally, since they have to travel less distances, their fuel consumption will be lower.
Funny how you say YOU need a bigger vehicle and yet you insinuate that there are some that don't? Just for reference some of the bigger SUVs get better fuel economy that lots of regular passenger vehicles from the 70's and 80's. For eg: My F150 uses 3 times less fuel than my old 77 chev van.pussylicker said:
Unfortunately our society was built around the internal combustion engine and we're now stuck with it. Unless they totally reorganize our way of life, and increase the efficiency of public transit and pass laws about how far one can travel to and from work, then we've made our bed and have to sleep in it.
tboy said:
Nobody on this board seems to get it , gas was 94 c / litre sat this morning $ 1.05 , you can say what you want about exploration costs etc but this fluctuation shows it is greed . If you can make a profit at .94 C why raise it to $ 1.05 4 days . The greedy bastards on the cartel should all be jailed at best.
What's up with you? You keep slagging hobbyists in various threads.KWI said:No one likes the gas prices, but to bitch that companies are making money..............man I am so sick of the line here on TERB. No one in the free world is allowed to make any money according to the people here at TERB and if they do, let's boycott. You guys are a joke. Don't like the pricees, buy a bike, car pool, move closer to work, don't drive the SUV. I pay maybe 40-60/week in gas that is good. It works and I am happy. I truly feel sorry for you guys, life must just be unbareable at times. Gas prices, SP's prices...........How do you all live life every day?
KWI
Menopause? Unemployed boyfriend crashed your car? What?
Well said. BTW until gas prices are high there is no incentive for us to stop killing each other through greenhouse emissions. Blaming the government or expecting the government to do something is so low rent.CosaNostra said:
The only thing the government can do is increase subsidies for hybrids through direct levies on sport utilities.
Mao Tse Tongue said:
Not so, when a government subsidizes a product that leads to a strong disincentive for price reduction. Most of the subsidy goes to the retailers profit ( hearing aids, wheelchairs etc). the market will sort it out on its own.
Here you go:KWI said:
Personal attacks show poor taste. If you can`t carry on a discussion with valid arguments why be in the lounge?KWI said:
https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1256553&postcount=18KWI said:
and that`s just today
You make blanket statements about terb guys and in the other thread about terb hobbyists how we are a joke, have a sorry life, our money is not needed, etc...KWI said:
I don't see what's wrong with discussing oil prices and what can be done about it, because it does not only affect your little trips to the store, but also all transportation, cost of shipped products, plastics, pharmaceuticals, chemicals....
But, that's not something you have to worry about because after all you are still rolling in all that money the GSF gave you.
Sucks when it gets personal, doesn't it.
KWI said:No one likes the gas prices, but to bitch that companies are making money..............man I am so sick of the line here on TERB. No one in the free world is allowed to make any money according to the people here at TERB and if they do, let's boycott. You guys are a joke. Don't like the pricees, buy a bike, car pool, move closer to work, don't drive the SUV. I pay maybe 40-60/week in gas that is good. It works and I am happy. I truly feel sorry for you guys, life must just be unbareable at times. Gas prices, SP's prices...........How do you all live life every day?
KWI
Couldn't have said it better myself. Adapt to reality, don't waste your time on cheap gas fantasies and conspiracy theories.
BTW why don't some of you downtrodden start your own oil company and show the Exxons and Sunocos of the world how it's done.
For the record, I don't think ANYONE on terb has a problem with any company/person/group making money, the problem I have is when these groups/companies/persons gain a monopoly (and yes, there IS colusion among the major oil companies) and then hold us for ransom.
KWI: i surely hope that you never need any product of service because when you do, and the MINUTE you NEED that service, I don't want to hear you complaining when they double the price for no other reason than to increase profits....
BTW: the government regulates all kinds of different products and services yet they don't regulate the petroleum industry...why? BECAUSE THEY REAP AMAZING PROFITS THROUGH TAXATION BECAUSE OF IT.... For them to regulate the pricing and pricing practises would not only cut a major source of tax dollars but would also cut off a lot of their political contributions.....
I would like KWI to name a product or service that has doubled in price in the last 6 or even 12 months. Heck, the cars that USE the fuel haven't gone up that much in the last 4 years let alone 4 months.....
KWI: i surely hope that you never need any product of service because when you do, and the MINUTE you NEED that service, I don't want to hear you complaining when they double the price for no other reason than to increase profits....
BTW: the government regulates all kinds of different products and services yet they don't regulate the petroleum industry...why? BECAUSE THEY REAP AMAZING PROFITS THROUGH TAXATION BECAUSE OF IT.... For them to regulate the pricing and pricing practises would not only cut a major source of tax dollars but would also cut off a lot of their political contributions.....
I would like KWI to name a product or service that has doubled in price in the last 6 or even 12 months. Heck, the cars that USE the fuel haven't gone up that much in the last 4 years let alone 4 months.....
Studies have been done on price fixing and it has been found again and again that there is no funny business going on. The Canadian market is supposed to be highly competitive and the volatile prices are purely a function of supply and demand.
However I don't fully buy this. How can prices in EVERY station in the GTA bump up by nearly identical amounts within a few hours? How can a 15% increase be caused by a supply or demand? Did all the stations suddenly get short of gas, or did everyone suddenly start driving more?
However I don't fully buy this. How can prices in EVERY station in the GTA bump up by nearly identical amounts within a few hours? How can a 15% increase be caused by a supply or demand? Did all the stations suddenly get short of gas, or did everyone suddenly start driving more?
My point exactly, I used to be in the trade show biz and on numerous occasions I have been privy to the break out sessions. While I never attended a petro industry session I have heard from other industries where they skirt the issue of price fixing by saying things (to the whole group) like:mmouse said:
- As we all know, with the upcoming travel season there are additional profits to be made by raising the price during peak travel days. These typically fall on Fridays and especially those days prior to a long weekend. For those that sell to independant stations keep this in mind when filling orders the week prior to these high demand days.....
There are ways to monopolize a market without actually coming out and saying so...hence again, as an example, the supposed supply problems caused by Katrina....
BTW: this current crop of increases are directly related to the tensions with Iran and the US. This by no means has affected the current supply, the price increases are a result of many who think there MIGHT be a problem....
IMHO just another excuse to gouge us.......
Meister said:Ahh yes, loves to call terb guys losers without a life, but can't take what's coming back. If you are "so sick of the line here on TERB" maybe you should start your own board. But, wait a minute, that reminds me.... oh nevermind.
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I drove up to Muskoka tuesday, and Gravenhurst was $1.01.9 and jumped to $1.06.9. Bracebridge was $.96.9 and dropped to $.93.9 A gas station on the hwy about 5 miles from both towns, was $1.07.9. The Sunoco gas bar in both towns, is owned by the same guy, yet he had a 13 cent difference. Canadian Tire has gas bars in both towns, and a 13 cent difference.booboobear said:
