George Watts Jr., age 24, has died from myocarditis from the Pfizer injection

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Myocarditis deaths are extremely rare from a vaccine for a virus where death is also extremely rare. Young people don't need the vaccine yet they die from myocarditis that is caused by the vaccine.
then explain why several European countries banned or limit the use moderna covid vaccines??
 
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So then why do people who've had covid with mild or no symptoms need the vaccine if they had no severe reaction to covid.
The general overall reduction in risk.
Should a confirmed case of covid be considered the equivalent of a shot? Probably. In Canada, where we actually have centralized databases of such things due to universal health care, they could have implemented it without it being THAT much of a burden. I think it was a missed opportunity.
 
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then explain why several European countries banned or limit the use moderna covid vaccines??
Because if you have another shot that has even less risk in that age group, you may as well use it instead.
 
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You realize you just said it was extremely rare for death from vaccine and then said young people die from the vaccine. You have me confused.
I was replying to someone who was arguing that the myocarditis is more rare from the vaccine than it is covid.
 
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The problem is people debating through anecdotes. You can find anything with an anecdote. Societies public health advanced with the advent of the scientific method.

Thus...how many myocarditis cases from vaccinated individuals v. a matched sample of unvaccinated individuals?

Only with this info we move forward in any debate.
 

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The problem is people debating through anecdotes. You can find anything with an anecdote. Societies public health advanced with the advent of the scientific method.

Thus...how many myocarditis cases from vaccinated individuals v. a matched sample of unvaccinated individuals?

Only with this info we move forward in any debate.
Don't worry, they can misunderstand and misrepresent stats, too.
 

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I can think of nothing worse than watching your child die.......Especially as in this case unnecessarily.
agree. So when parents of children with immune deficiencies express the necessity to wear masks to protect their kids from Covid or anything else for that matter, I trust you will respect the seriousness of their request
 

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agree. So when parents of children with immune deficiencies express the necessity to wear masks to protect their kids from Covid or anything else for that matter, I trust you will respect the seriousness of their request
nobody else is responsible for thier kids. asking others to wear mask because you or your kids have weaker immune systems is imposing your fear on other people. you and those kids should stay home
 
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nobody else is responsible for thier kids. asking others to wear mask because you or your kids have weaker immune systems is imposing your fear on other people. you and those kids should stay home
I see. So empathy for dead children ends when it becomes a minor inconvenience for you. Noted.
 
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I see. So empathy for dead children ends when it becomes a minor inconvenience for you. Noted.


why do you insist on repeating propaganda lines you saw on tv?

healthy kids are not at risk.

we never wore masks during past flu seasons when hospitals were flooded with flu cases

the flu is more deadly to children.
 
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why do you insist on repeating propaganda lines you saw on tv?

healthy kids are not at risk.

we never wore masks during past flu seasons when hospitals were flooded with flu cases

the flu is more deadly to children.
as I posted in my message, I am not asking this exclusive to Covid. Would you put on a mask in hospital if asked to protect burn victims? Or any other reason, forget Covid, you are simply asked to wear a mask to protect someone else……. Would you, or is that an “infringement of your rights”?
 
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why do you insist on repeating propaganda lines you saw on tv?

healthy kids are not at risk.
my question wasn’t about healthy children, just the opposite it was about children with immune deficiencies.
Your “healthy kids are not at risk” is the repeated propaganda you object to. Unless you are suggesting Kids aren’t at risk of immune deficiencies?
 
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as I posted in my message, I am not asking this exclusive to Covid. Would you put on a mask in hospital if asked to protect burn victims? Or any other reason, forget Covid, you are simply asked to wear a mask to protect someone else……. Would you, or is that an “infringement of your rights”?



masks does not prevent the spread of covid or flu like viruses outside of hospital settings so yes it is an infringement of my rights especially after 2 years of none stop covid hysteria. it takes away my right to breath oxygen.

if you are so fearfull stay home by yourself
 
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masks does not prevent the spread of covid or flu like viruses outside of hospital settings so yes it is an infringement of my rights especially after 2 years of none stop covid hysteria. it takes away my right to breath oxygen.

if you are so fearfull stay home by yourself
you keep ducking the question. Remove Covid from the equation.
 

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my question wasn’t about healthy children, just the opposite it was about children with immune deficiencies.
Your “healthy kids are not at risk” is the repeated propaganda you object to. Unless you are suggesting Kids aren’t at risk of immune deficiencies?

this is from NPR



Children's Risk Of Serious Illness From COVID-19 Is As Low As It Is For The Flu
 
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you keep ducking the question. Remove Covid from the equation.

I am not ducking anything you first brought up children with immune deficiency
 
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I am not ducking anything you first brought up children with immune deficiency
don’t worry, you’ve already answered the question with what I posted earlier that your empathy for dead children ends when it becomes a minor inconvenience for you.
 
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