Also what piece of trashy garbage dump you are. I bet a lot of people genuinely love you.
Germany needs AfD. Period.
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Why would such frustrations be used to blame them for economic hardship that everyone is facing these days?
They are unrelated.
My comment was to specifically point out that minor frustrations being blown out of proportion, to blame immigrants for all the ills in the country is nothing new.
Recent rise in immigration did not cause that.
It has always been that way for decades now.
I never said they were lethal, I said 14,000 stabbings in just one city is insane
Its not?? What percentage are actual stabbings then??
You're right, they actually had more in 2023/2024.
Over 15,000 knife or sharp instrument offences recorded by the police in that year
Again, I never said anything about homicides.
I merely said London has an insane amount of stabbings every year.
You're the one who then brought homicides by stabbings into the debate.
You have a history of moving the goalposts though, so I guess I shouldnt be surprised
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Here's an article from last month
www.standard.co.uk
London crime statistics: Is knife crime worsening?
The capital has witnessed several alarming knife crime incidents since the start of the New Year
www.standard.co.uk
Is it stabbing or crime?
Robbing someone at knife point is a knife crime.
Stabbing is also a knife crime.
So is 14000 referring to stabbing or crime? (I haven't looked into it but just basing it off of Valcazar's comment).
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From ChatGPT:
In 2023, the Metropolitan Police recorded 14,577 knife-related offenses in London, marking a 20% increase from the previous year. Of these, 72 were homicides involving a knife.
While the total number of knife offenses provides insight into the prevalence of knife-related crimes, specific data on the exact number of stabbing incidents within this total is not readily available. The term "knife offenses" encompasses a range of crimes, including possession of a knife, threats involving a knife, and actual stabbing incidents. Therefore, without detailed breakdowns from law enforcement agencies, it's challenging to determine the precise number of stabbings.
Are you describing the temporary foreign workers program?
The one being cut way back?
To get votes perhaps?
So the situation is thus as I see it. I am not arguing that immigrants are the problem for economic woes.
The problem is crappy not thought through policies for ECONOMIC immigrants in Canada the place we live in (I am not talking about asylum seekers/refugees) is creating situations where these frustrations bubble up and politicians use it to their advantage.
It is nothing new, none of this is is new.
I am not sure what I'm arguing about you can't dismiss that many people do feel these frustration. Like it's not racist to point out these things happen and to alienate those who do want to talk through it.
But I get that most vocal pppl bout it are most likely coming from that racial bias lens.
No idea, but to me there's not a whole lot of difference because if someone tries to rob you with a knife and you resist, you're probably getting stabbed
Any immigrant program that is not thought out.
Like foreign students programs...what we got: scams from India scamming indians out of their money, land. Tricking poor families to give up their life saving, money hungry colleges in Canada. It's bad all around.
Then when there's a push back it just gets abruptly halted and then bam more trouble for colleges here, and domestic students worried about their programs being cut.
People like Doug Ford abused the foreign student program, he refused to fund universities and told them instead to take on more foreign students. Now that they are gone multiple universities and schools are financially fucked over.
Votes certainly.
Rage farming is an effective tactic.
By the way, economic immigrants is a confusing term.
Anyone who comes to Canada comes here to live a better life.
They all qualify as economic immigrants.
Even our ancestors were economic immigrants.
Some of the frustration, that you yourself highlighted earlier is due to racism or xenophobia.
Some of it is justified.
But all these issues always existed.
My point here is that the blame game starts only when the economy is not doing well.
Then it is suddenly the immigrants that are the cause for all ills.
The TFW program was abused by businesses as well.
Both the student program and TFW program need to be reigned in.
We should encourage more permanent residents to come here.
That program is good from what I have seen.
I agree.
Economic immigrant is anyone.who is not claiming asylum/not here because they are forced to be here due to war/disasters etc..
They are here alreast in part by choice (I get it's not always 100pecent your choice even if you are migrating solely for economic reasons) as I used the term.
Economic : choice to leave home country more than fifty percent due to wanting to make money.
Asylum seeker for safety.."No-one puts their child in a boat unless the water is safer than the land.”
Good thing it didn't happen.
Don't know.
It's hard to find the break down and I don't feel like actually opening all the raw data files myself.
Which, it seems, includes "possession".
Only it doesn't seem to.
I went to homicides because it was a verifiable number.
You did a google search and didn't bother to even look at what the numbers actually said.
I'm sorry facts annoy you so much.
You realize 15,000 people charged with knife offences is a crazy high amount, right??
The only people walking around with knives are criminals and trades people.
And it doesnt matter if criminals are just carrying a knife, or using it. Its the intent that matters.
Also 15,000 are only the ones who got caught. Real number is probably a lot higher.
My $0.02
What are the numbers in Tokyo??
What are the numbers in Timbuktu??
WTF does that have to do with anything??!!
Read OP about knife attacks in Berlin: https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/germany-needs-afd-period.878453/post-8852845
I merely added that knife attacks in London are also out of control.
You're the one who then added homicides per knife attack (for reasons unbeknownst to me), and if thats not good enough now you're going on about Toronto and NYC stats.
Have you thought about giving Terb a break for a while??
