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There is an easy solution. Don’t think it works? Don’t fucking take it. Easy.

If I want to try it, I should have that right.

The risk is all mine.
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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Although early on there were small studies that showed hope for Hydroxychloroquine there were subesequent large scale studies and randomized studies that disproved those earlier ones.

There was an 11,000 people case trial which was conducted by Oxford on patients in hospitals with COVID-19 that found the drug had no beneficial effect on those hospitalized with COVID-19.

As well there was a randomized clinical trial which tested Hydroxychloroquine's effectiveness on mild COVID-19 cases very early on in contracting the virus that found the drug was no better than a placebo in patients who were not hospitalized.
And here are 10 pages of studies that show it does work: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w6p_HqRXCrW0_wYNK7m_zpQLbBVYcvVU/view

So how do you know who is right??
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Do you really believe she cured 350 patients?
I cant say for sure because I wasnt there (and neither were you).

But how do you know she didnt cure 350 patients??
What would be her motivation to drive or fly all the way from Texas to DC to testify that it works??
 

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ffs don't get medical advices here. this is terb. go read and pose your questions from real medical website. check with your dr
 
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I cant say for sure because I wasnt there (and neither were you).

But how do you know she didnt cure 350 patients??
What would be her motivation to drive or fly all the way from Texas to DC to testify that it works??

What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof.

As to her motivation.... who knows. Maybe the Devil's Seed? Or seeking fame? Or she believes it works?
 

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The article you link is from July the study they refer to is from May and there is no link to the actual study
For example the above is one of those earlier studies that was disproved Hydroxychloroquine's effectivenes in the subsequent larger scale study and randomized study for it's effectiveness in mild cases or hospitalized patients with COVID-19 which is what the studies major claims are.

And here are 10 pages of studies that show it does work: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w6p_HqRXCrW0_wYNK7m_zpQLbBVYcvVU/view

So how do you know who is right??
Phil I am not even arguing with you or denying the fact that there were studies early on that showed it worked. Again read what I posted.

"Although early on there were small studies that showed hope for Hydroxychloroquine there were subesequent large scale studies and randomized studies that disproved those earlier ones.
There was an 11,000 people case trial which was conducted by Oxford on patients in hospitals with COVID-19 that found the drug had no beneficial effect on those hospitalized with COVID-19.
As well there was a randomized clinical trial which tested Hydroxychloroquine's effectiveness on mild COVID-19 cases very early on in contracting the virus that found the drug was no better than a placebo in patients who were not hospitalized."


If you ask scientists which study weighted more on the result of the drug a study that had 100 subjects VS a study that had 11,000 subjects.
They 99.99% would choose the larger scale study

Again what I am telling you is subsequent larger scale and randomized trial studies disproved those earlier ones and Hydroxychloroquine's efficacy in hospital patients with COVID-19 or those in early stages of COVID-19 with mild cases.
It's a lot easier to get skewed results from smaller or non randomized studies.
 
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I cant say for sure because I wasnt there (and neither were you).

But how do you know she didnt cure 350 patients??
What would be her motivation to drive or fly all the way from Texas to DC to testify that it works??
Yes of course if she flew all the way to Texas to testify it must work not that she is batshit crazy or anything. Dude, give you head a shake and focus on reality instead of conspiracies and nonsense stupid want to be professionals spew out.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Yes of course if she flew all the way to Texas to testify it must work not that she is batshit crazy or anything. Dude, give you head a shake and focus on reality instead of conspiracies and nonsense stupid want to be professionals spew out.
Except its not just her who's vouching for HCL, many other doctors are as well (and they're not all religious kooks like her)
 

Phil C. McNasty

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The article you link is from July the study they refer to is from May and there is no link to the actual study
For example the above is one of those earlier studies that was disproved Hydroxychloroquine's effectivenes in the subsequent larger scale study and randomized study for it's effectiveness in mild cases or hospitalized patients with COVID-19 which is what the studies major claims are.



Phil I am not even arguing with you or denying the fact that there were studies early on that showed it worked. Again read what I posted.

"Although early on there were small studies that showed hope for Hydroxychloroquine there were subesequent large scale studies and randomized studies that disproved those earlier ones.
There was an 11,000 people case trial which was conducted by Oxford on patients in hospitals with COVID-19 that found the drug had no beneficial effect on those hospitalized with COVID-19.
As well there was a randomized clinical trial which tested Hydroxychloroquine's effectiveness on mild COVID-19 cases very early on in contracting the virus that found the drug was no better than a placebo in patients who were not hospitalized."


If you ask scientists which study weighted more on the result of the drug a study that had 100 subjects VS a study that had 11,000 subjects.
They 99.99% would choose the larger scale study

Again what I am telling you is subsequent larger scale and randomized trial studies disproved those earlier ones and Hydroxychloroquine's efficacy in hospital patients with COVID-19 or those in early stages of COVID-19 with mild cases.
It's a lot easier to get skewed results from smaller or non randomized studies.
Like jcpro said though, if you're lying on your deathbed and there's no other medicine that works, why not try the HCL?? You're gonna die anyways
 

Phil C. McNasty

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This is true freedom, let the patient and the doctor decide what treatment is best:

 

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Like jcpro said though, if you're lying on your deathbed and there's no other medicine that works, why not try the HCL?? You're gonna die anyways
It has absolutely no effect on hospitalized COVID-19 patients
Let me be clear The studies have decisively confirmed there is no benefit from Hydroxychloroquine in cases of hospitalized COVID-19 patients. Those that state otherwise are very misinformed and those studies that they refer which concluded otherwise were extremely skewed. This is not even a legitimate discussion.

Where Hydroxychloroquine showed some possible effectiveness was in very early stages of contracting COVID-19 in very mild cases but unfortunately the randomized trial found that the drug was no better than a placebo in patients who were not hospitalized.
 

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There have been plenty of doctors come forward over the past few months that said the treatment works.

But no, computer nerds, media and bureaucrats know better.

It’s laughable.
 

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There have been plenty of doctors come forward over the past few months that said the treatment works.

But no, computer nerds, media and bureaucrats know better.

It’s laughable.
There has been subsequent larger scale trials that proved it to be ineffective from the early results those doctors are reffering to as evidence. The larger scale tests results weigh more on the efficacy of drugs.
But no Stable genius member, covidiot and Humpty Dumpty Trumpty fanboys know any better.

It's truly remarkable the number of stable genius's we are dealing with.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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It has absolutely no effect on hospitalized COVID-19 patients
Let me be clear The studies have decisively confirmed there is no benefit from Hydroxychloroquine in cases of hospitalized COVID-19 patients. Those that state otherwise are very misinformed and those studies that they refer which concluded otherwise were extremely skewed. This is not even a legitimate discussion.

Where Hydroxychloroquine showed some possible effectiveness was in very early stages of contracting COVID-19 in very mild cases but unfortunately the randomized trial found that the drug was no better than a placebo in patients who were not hospitalized.
Let me be clear. Anyone who's lying on their deathbed and doesnt try HCL is a dumbass.
 

doggystyle99

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Let me be clear. Anyone who's lying on their deathbed and doesnt try HCL is a dumbass.
Clearly they should be listening to your brilliant opinion rather than what the very high majority of doctors and scientists from around the globe have concluded to from what the larger scale and randomized trials have shown :ROFLMAO:
 
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