I'm not sure those are facts that have been established, but am willing to look at evidence.
Gizzlaine Maxwell to be pardoned.
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Among other things.
No. She was specifically charged and convicted for acts with Epstein.
What has happened to your reading skills?
I was pointing out that nottyboi's argument about age of consent didn't hold up since the island wasn' t the location.
Indeed, Maxwell's convictions involve Florida, New York, and New Mexico.
Even if we did say only the island matters, the girls involved were younger than the age of consent there, too.
I mentioned it in my response to nottyboi.
Well, it must be true because Tucker Carlson says so. LMAO
IT'S NONSENSE AND BULLSHIT but hey, everyone loves a Tucker story.
Jeffrey Epstein rumored Mossad connection explained
"There's a vicious wave of slander and lies against my country and my people," former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett said about Tucker Carlson's claims.
www.newsweek.com
Former Israeli Leader Denies Epstein Worked for Mossad
Former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett dismissed the allegations as part of "a vicious wave of slander."
time.com
And you believe Bennett?Well, it must be true because Tucker Carlson says so. LMAO
IT'S NONSENSE AND BULLSHIT but hey, everyone loves a Tucker story.
Jeffrey Epstein rumored Mossad connection explained
"There's a vicious wave of slander and lies against my country and my people," former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett said about Tucker Carlson's claims.
Former Israeli Leader Denies Epstein Worked for Mossad
Former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett dismissed the allegations as part of "a vicious wave of slander."
I have lived in residences where paid-for debauchery took place.
I still wouldn't say every single person who visited more than once should be suspected of engaging in that debauchery.
Tucker Carlson is an abomination and not a credible source on many issues.Well, it must be true because Tucker Carlson says so. LMAO
IT'S NONSENSE AND BULLSHIT but hey, everyone loves a Tucker story.
Jeffrey Epstein rumored Mossad connection explained
"There's a vicious wave of slander and lies against my country and my people," former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett said about Tucker Carlson's claims.
Former Israeli Leader Denies Epstein Worked for Mossad
Former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett dismissed the allegations as part of "a vicious wave of slander."
Lol... public trust on Trump is on a record high..... your PTDS is slipping out...
That's a fun data set they grabbed.Perhaps its time for some research.
(they say that of the 200 phones they tracked trump didn't visit after 2008 and Epstein's first trial)
We Tracked Every Visitor to Epstein Island
Even in death, the secrets of disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein and his infamous private island remain tightly guarded. But in 2024 WIRED conducted an investigation uncovering the data of mobile devices belonging to almost 200 of his visitors. How strong was the data? So precise that we...www.wired.com
They don't really have evidence Trump didn't visit after 2008 from that phone data, though, since it only seems to start in 2016.
The phone traffic also doesn't seem to really settle the question of whether or not the island's primary role is as a bawdy house.
From what I recall, it was still considered Epstein's primary residence.
Evidence, please.
Also, do you mean a record high for Trump?
Or a record high for Presidents?
Something else?
My bad...for Trump. he's beating his approval rating from his first term by double...according to CNN.
That doesn't seem to be what CNN is reporting at all.
Not in their most recent poll.
Not at 100 days in.
Does anyone really believe anything will come of this other than more innuendo?
We all know important and powerful men visited the island and were friendly with Epstein. I don't think we will ever find any conclusive evidence that any of these men Trump, Clinton, etc. slept with underage girls. Do you think Epstein had a list of powerful men, their sex acts and the age of the women in a drawer?
The clamoring for more and more information from the DOJ likely conflicts with accusations lacking real evidence.
We all know important and powerful men visited the island and were friendly with Epstein. I don't think we will ever find any conclusive evidence that any of these men Trump, Clinton, etc. slept with underage girls. Do you think Epstein had a list of powerful men, their sex acts and the age of the women in a drawer?
The clamoring for more and more information from the DOJ likely conflicts with accusations lacking real evidence.
For those who think they are closing in on Trump with the Epstein files, I'm going with the theory that Merrick Garland would not have sat on evidence that implicates Trump for four years.
Now if you think that Garland sat on this because it would drag down too many important men without regard for their politics, why do you think they will release information that will truly implicate Trump beyond innuendo at this point? I think too much of this is wishful thinking on all sides.
Now if you think that Garland sat on this because it would drag down too many important men without regard for their politics, why do you think they will release information that will truly implicate Trump beyond innuendo at this point? I think too much of this is wishful thinking on all sides.
Thinking back... I don't believe I lived anywhere with paid-for debauchery before I was 18, no.
Yes.
That's been the point from the beginning.
Trump and the MAGA crowd hyped the fuck out of this because "the evil Dems are covering up for the pedophiles" was catnip to the frothy base.
They're the ones who insisted there was a list kept by Epstein, that there were videotapes of specific men, etc.
(Obviously not everyone and some people meant a list of people that investigators had put together, which would be a much more reasonable thing to exist.)
They pushed it constantly and then promised to deliver it when in power.
And, at a certain point, said "Nope, there is no there there."
And said they wouldn't release anything.
And it blew up in their face.
I've seen more than one Dem politician frame this as a dilemma - either release the files and maybe incriminate yourself or admit there was no list and you've been lying all this time.
It's just opportunism right now.
It's Dems finally taking advantage of Glonzo.
Now, what is interesting has been Trump's reaction.
Has he been so weird about it just because he's a malignant narcissist who can't understand why people aren't just dropping something he said should be dropped?
Or is there something there in the investigation? Even if there is no "list", it doesn't mean there isn't evidence in the files for the Epstein and Maxwell cases.
It doesn't even need to be evidence of underage sex, it could well be financial bullshit, as I mentioned above.
We would have no idea if there was an ongoing investigation of Trump for this. Especially if it was multiple people being investigated.
I completely agree that if there was a convenient list marked "People I am blackmailing" then we probably would have seen it.
Remember that a lot of what people are clamoring for as new files now are the ones from the Maxwell trial, which were under seal until late 2024 or early 2025, I believe.
So Biden couldn't have released them before the election anyway.
I never followed this "Epstein" list thing much. I didn't try to differentiate whether there was more Democrats than Republicans or vice versa. I guess Prince Andrew had some things to be ashamed about. I have some very conservative friends and even they didn't talk or post about Epstein anywhere.
I just think it was one of those salacious stories that attracts certain types of people with certain thinking. I noticed some newscasts and news podcasts are obsessed with the topic. That's probably because it attracts a rabid audience. Without naming names, I don't think TERB and other social media sites are known for the clearest thinkers.
Does that mean I think Jeffrey Epstein killed himself? Hell no!
Wow you people are weirdos. You think it's ok for muddle age men to manipulate 14 year old kids to have sex with them? You are sick people
