GTAC for Sale

[Tugger]

Re: He just gave up too easily.?????

I imagine Tbill sank a lot of $$$$ into GTA.

Money wans't going to make that board a success...Time was!

TBill did try a lot of different things, and some of the things did work....That was the key to his success, he Experimented with different ideas, some worked and some didn't.

You see...this board is geared towards the advertisers, his board started gearing towards the hobbiest, then it slowly started to change. He added the ladies forum, his only fault there was the fact he was also the moderator...Then the mens room arrived for us.

With a few minor adjustments, and a little time, TBills board could have been good for both the advertisers and the hobbiest.

So all I am saying is...HE GAVE UP TOO EASILY!

 

[twisted troll]

if he is trying to sell and get out, than I tip my hat to Tbill, he did create a comummunity with a feeling of family, only those who were there alot will know what I am talking about,
but thus is a sad day... for myself and many other GTA community.

Yes, I'm sad too.

 

[BigBlack]

By the way, big up to bblack. I think he's my neighbour.

You live near Yonge and Davisville? I'm throwing an end of summer party so if ya hear the noise just stoll on in, and have a drink bro.

Back to T-Bill. I think part of the problem is that he just plain burnt himself out. He tried to mod everything day and night practically by himself. The guy has a serious stress disorder as it was, so his tolerance wasn't good. Solution? Get some mods! Fred has how many mods here? 10? T-Bill should have gotten at least 3 or 4, but he was too paranoid.

He gave his phone number out to numerous people who called him about the board (sometimes late, late at night while he was trying to sleep as he told me in PM). The board was consuming so much time in his life and that can be draining. I know the most I could take of moderating would be about 2 or 3 days. It's a thankless job (worse then that, he was getting told off day and night). No $$$,and time consuming. I moderated a bodybuilding forum and got real tired of it after a week (was spending 1.5 hours a day on it), and there were 9 of us!

Give him a few days to rest up and maybe his mind may change? It just seemed like he spent a ton of money on bandwidth, and advertising only to stop before the harvest. Is his site wiped out? Is the content intact?

BBLACK

 

[BigBlack]

Re: Tbills board will be back.

He's not going to sell it.


Everything has been saved so dont worry everyone you will have your GTAC back in no time..

I figured it was an impulse/frustration move.

BBLACK

 

[Trelew]

OK Enough of this! Is TBill's forum down for the count or just taking a rest?

I mean it's amusing to see all the bashing of someone's misfortune with a sprinkling of lamenting but it's kind of low to kick a guy when he's down, you know?

 

[Tugger]

I mean it's amusing to see all the bashing of someone's misfortune with a sprinkling of lamenting but it's kind of low to kick a guy when he's down, you know?

I agree

 

[Tugger]

OK Enough of this! Is TBill's forum down for the count or just taking a rest?

We will never know, who is telling the truth here.

 

[ToronToto]

If he was trying to sell, would a working board get a better price?

If he was tired of moderating, couldn't he leave the board up, but disable posting? and put a sticky in each forum?

Oh well, hope things works out for tbill.

 

[BigBlack]

Re: Tbills board will be back.

Its funny how the ones that Advertsied for free are bashing him
I hope he makes everyone pay for advertising

Many, many escorts bashed him night and day but used his site for tons of free publicity to make $$$.

BB

 

[BigBlack]

Re: Oh well go back to GTA then for some.....

Say what you will I paid for advertising on GTA for 3 months. The hits were less than encouraging. Terb out done them in less than one month. Consider that before you pay girls.

It was worth it for most because most didn't pay a cent! They could announce their weekly and in some cases daily movements in the announcements section for free . Why pay? T-Bill was often wondering why people weren't buying banners. It wasn't rocket science.

BBLACK

 

[BigBlack]

Re: Re: Re: Oh well go back to GTA then for some.....

Before GTAC was the only place I advertized alanassecret and I did very well. Your not going to want to hear this but its the truth. I got more business from GTAC then I do from terb alone. Thankfully I get alot of business through SV and my regulars..

A lot from word of mouth also I'm sure. I met you at an event (not SV) and you were the friendliest social butterfly I've meet in the business. Your endorsement on the success of gtac exposure makes the reality of free advertising more outrageous. T-bill's got to put his business hat on. $50 a month is less then a toonie a day.

BB

 

[BigBlack]

Re: Maybe you should help him BigBlack

He could use a good PR person..

T-Bill is stubborn and inflexible. He needs a female PR person who can navigate the industry, and smooth his bumps. That aside, working with T-Bill is a very difficult, frustrating task. I've seen him drop those loyal to him in a split second, and it ended up catching right back up to him. His PR person seems to be AS which although entertaining at times is not good for business.

Wow, my 1000th post!

BB

 

[Jade4u]

I also agree with many who say that he will put it back soon. I believe he is just frustrated from some past experiences or something. He has said he felt like giving up many times in the past and has come back before as well. I also agree that the longer he leaves it down the more people he is losing as they are getting comfortable at other places.

 

[BigBlack]

Re: Re: Re: Maybe you should help him BigBlack

Congrats Bigblack I dont remember meeting you by your name but im sure if I seen you again I would LOL.. Are you going to the terb party?

Maybe one day, LOL. I meet you that night with a nice gentleman sporting the shaved head. I made a comment to a friend after that your social skills were so good, it's obvious why people took so well to you. I had never seen your hair brunette, just blonde. I thought brunette looked even sexier. It was a fun night. I introduce myself with my first name (real life) and never the handle (internet life).

BB

 

[joebear]

any bets if anyone buys GTAC ?

 

[train]

Re: Re: Re: Re: I agree with you Gypsy..

I agree with that, it is certainly worth more than $10k and less than $20k. I buy, sell, trade traffic for a living. This is my professional opinion.

Others feel free to chime in with an appraisal.

It's impossible to determine a value without more information concerning existing income generation , if any , and the cost of reproducing .( ie barriers to entry for competition )

Most businesses are valued as a multiple of some earnings measurement such as EBITDA ( earnings before interest , depreciation and amortization ) . Valuations in the late '90's got away from this formula approach for Dot Coms with the predictable disaster shortly thereafter .
Some will say that the value is whatever some idiot is willing to pay for it . There is some truth to this but guessing at how big an idiot someone is is a bit of a mugs game .

Companies without a spectacular growth profile are valued at anywhere between 3 and 7 times EBITDA these days . There are deductions and additions to the multiple for all sorts of things including good or poor management , potential market size , competitos etc .

My gut feeling is that one of the reasons for selling is that it doesn't make any money , perhaps not even generating enough to pay t-bill for whatever management he does . If this is the case , and I don't know if it is true or not , it could be largely worthless .

 

[Valintino]

Here is a different point of view, maybe because most of the posters in this thread are from TO: GTAC was a good board for the Niagara Falls Area. AT least posts can be made about all of the local agencies. I am not saying that TERB is wrong by not allowing posts from all agencies, I don't want to open that can of worms again. But it was nice to be able to see all NF reviews on GTAC. TBill, open only the NF section, lol.

 

[auto doctor]

GTA vs TERB

Myself lurking for some time and the odd post on GTA.... I found GTA really loose with it's operation. The posts where at times out there. Terb on the other hand is far more regiment and controlled. But the mix of both is good. Terb and GTA different but having more choice is better. (i.e. competition)

In my opinion some for the posts on GTA should of had "Content Adviseries" LOL.

I hope someone steps up to the plate and takes up the challenge and makes GTA work.

 

[TheNiteHwk]

Even if he sold 25 banners a month at $100. each (and that would never happen) that would only be $2500. a month. Where's the money? GTAC ain't worth 10 cents.

 

[Regina]

Im just wondering how many SPs MPs Agencies and Spas or Adult Websites that advertised for free over and over everyday.
Would pay to advertise,if Tbill gets GTAC going again.
Regina if everyone that advertised on GTAC would of payed to advertise.There would of been a profit.

I am hardly bashing him, just stating the facts. I wouldn't pay one red dime to advertise on that site. Yes, it got a lot of hits but it isn't exactly known for quality traffic. As I've said the site was going into the dumps long before its downfall with trolls, spamming and the like.