Hamas Willing To Disarm...new position
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The stated goals of Israel were the return of the hostages AND the elimination of Hamas.
IMO, if Hamas returned all of the hostages and fully surrendered, then yes Israel would cease their current aggression.
If only 1 of those 2 goals is achieved, it is not enough. I'm pretty sure that Israel/Net has been clear and consistent on that since Day1, Oct.7.
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By killing all of Hamas, how far does that go?
Just the leaders?
The militants?
The police?
The hospitals you say are Hamas?
The families?
The kids?
Or is it just Netanyahu's Srebrenica plan, let all the women out of Rafah and kill all males of fighting age?
Another case where you think Arabs can't speak for themselves so instead you tell them what they say isn't what they want.
While Canada is still actively stealing Indigenous land, refusing to provide basic human rights to First nations (as the UN recently condemned) and continue widescale systemic discrimination.
But you need to believe that a land acknowledgement before a hockey game solved everything because otherwise you would have to face how insanely hypocritical your views are.
Another disgusting asshole action of faking people's posts.
Unfortunately people with maximalist opinion are happy to keep those uncompromising views as they sit safely in Canada while not worrying about whether the people they claim to support actually get helped.
I love the Franky world view, claiming it's wrong to destroy what Canada sees as a terrorist organization while promoting the complete elimination of Israel.
Correcting your lies, buddy.
Wow, you're right, the lack of clean water and slowness of the Truth and Reconciliation is just as bad as killing 40,000 people to take their land.
I can see why you post endlessly about Indigenous rights here.
Israel has Kahanists elected to their government, recognized by Canada as terrorists.
So you think this means Canada should go and kill all of Israel's government now too?
Ben Gvir is a convicted terrorist supporter, do you think Canada should kill him and everyone in his city too?
Or is this another of your reasoning that is only based on your racial supremacy?
Nobody trusts Netanyahu.
He and hist government should step down, give voting rights to all Palestinians and submit to war crime trials.
Yes, but I wasn't going around demanding "a ceasefire" just as a general thing as if that was all that mattered.
The goal is destroying Hamas.
The hostages have been entirely beside the point to the government.
And there were absolutely people saying "All Hamas has to do is return the hostages" as if it wasn't a ludicrous statement.
I remember watching Net's speech on Oct. 8 and I recall that he specifically said "destroy Hamas and return the hostages" as dual goals and I also believe that he has been consistent in that.
I can't be told to accept what others speculate as Israeli policy and whether their statements seem ludicrous or not to them.
He's been pretty clear.
A ceasefire would only be a pause before he 'finishes the job'.
I never said you should accept anyone saying "All Hamas has to do is release the hostages" as being correct.
I am saying they were idiots or lying.
If you never said that, why do you think I am talking about you?
So we agree that when Net said on Oct.8 that finishing the job meant returning the hostages and destroying Hamas and that is still the goals of this campaign.
A ceasefire is contingent on those parameters. Pretty simple, no?
Hamas needs to release the hostages and surrender.
It's more nuanced than that.
Why isn't Hamas returning the hostages?..... because doing that would entail giving in to Israel and not doing jihad and that would destroy Hamas' reputation among the other wacko extremist Islamic terror groups.
There's more than 1 way to destroy an enemy.
For instance, if Israel controls all the border crossings, blows in the tunnels and traps Hamas indefinitely in Rafah, what do you think happens to Hamas in the long run?
