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I'm sorry but this is rape, as much as pinning down someone against their will, or fucking them when they're blackout drunk should be (see Sameer Kara et al). The fact that so many (including the courts) see it as a grey area explains why woman are so reluctant to come forward with their stories
I totally agree with you.

He's pressuring them into having sex. It doesnt matter which avenue he gets to choose, when you pressure a girl to do what he did, and she's not 100% sure she wants to go along with the program, its rape!

End of story
 

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I totally agree with you.

He's pressuring them into having sex. It doesnt matter which avenue he gets to choose, when you pressure a girl to do what he did, and she's not 100% sure she wants to go along with the program, its rape!

End of story
If an individual says no or is not able to consent to sex due to drug induced impairment or mental status and then sex occurs, then in Canada and America the law say that rape has occurred. However it is very difficult to establish if consent was given or understood in many cases. The temptations of the profession that a producer or casting couch CEO is exposed are very high. Historically usually this power person is male and the victims are female but any gender combinations are possible. Hollywood's recruiting structure is set up for abuse. In Hollywood a woman meeting a movie director alone, in a hotel or private room for the purposes of recruitment should expect that sex maybe a factor in the negotiations. A Hollywood director works with those who are weak and wicked as well as pure and strong and if the director is weak or wicked or without self-control then his reputation may be imperiled or his character ruined by a crime. The adventuress have been know to ply their trade as black mailer or extortionist when the deal goes bad or at a latter date when it is $afe to talk. Rape is rape, but in Hollywood the often implied sex contract between director and actress has extremely blurred lines. If an actress is "raped" but doesn't report the sexual assault until the rapist has advanced her career perhap$, a very big advancement, then this still doesn't negate the rape in the eyes of the law. Optics and the law do not necessarily agree do they?
 

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I'm sorry but this is rape, as much as pinning down someone against their will, or fucking them when they're blackout drunk should be (see Sameer Kara et al). The fact that so many (including the courts) see it as a grey area explains why woman are so reluctant to come forward with their stories.
The courts see it as a grey area because it is one. They have to be careful when setting a precedent. Just as some people interpret a guy complimenting a woman's beauty on the street as sexual assault, the definition for what is considered rape could become so generalized that it loses all meaning.

Men much less aggressive than Harvey have not and will not be called out, even though the way in which they got sex from wannabe actors principally the same way. Even common office politics is a roll of the dice, and sex at the workplace happens all the time.
 

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Sounds like your thesis is similar to Mayim Bialik. They should not have gone along with it in the first place. IMO, if someone doesn't really want to do something and still chooses to do it anyway, they are not in a sober state of mind.
I haven't read her piece. Is your sober state of mind limited to sexual advances? People sacrifice or compromise themselves all the time at the workplace to play politics, ensure job security, and get raises - under duress and implied threats of job loss or career laddering.

We all probably accept that some women go in specifically with the intent of using sex as a negotiating tool, ready to not only consent, but offer it up front in exchange for a leg up, so to speak. Gets tricky. It's a powerful tool since most men put sex alongside food and water as essential to life. You want the role, Madame? So do 1000 other beautiful highly qualified actresses. What makes you different? What?? You'll blow me???? Ok, deal!
 

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People can read for themselves what you wrote:

Charlotte was just playing her role as a submissive woman, her inhibitions were lowered, insinuating that she is not recalling it properly, etc.
Fuji Fake News.
 

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I'm sorry but this is rape, as much as pinning down someone against their will, or fucking them when they're blackout drunk should be (see Sameer Kara et al). The fact that so many (including the courts) see it as a grey area explains why woman are so reluctant to come forward with their stories.
Playing Devil's Advocate, what if some of these women perfectly knew what they were doing and agreed to it for sake of knowing Harvey would get them good gigs?

One person offers good jobs and wants sex. The other agrees, offers sex in return for good jobs.
 

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I totally agree with you.

He's pressuring them into having sex. It doesnt matter which avenue he gets to choose, when you pressure a girl to do what he did, and she's not 100% sure she wants to go along with the program, its rape!

End of story
Legally speaking, there's a distinction between rape and sexual assault. Pressuring someone to having sex is not the same as actually going through with it. Pressuring someone to have sex would be considered sexual assault. Going through with the deed is rape.
 

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I haven't read her piece. Is your sober state of mind limited to sexual advances? People sacrifice or compromise themselves all the time at the workplace to play politics, ensure job security, and get raises - under duress and implied threats of job loss or career laddering.

We all probably accept that some women go in specifically with the intent of using sex as a negotiating tool, ready to not only consent, but offer it up front in exchange for a leg up, so to speak. Gets tricky. It's a powerful tool since most men put sex alongside food and water as essential to life. You want the role, Madame? So do 1000 other beautiful highly qualified actresses. What makes you different? What?? You'll blow me???? Ok, deal!
I agree that people compromise their values, ensure job security, etc. That behavior in of itself is not against the law though.
 

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I haven't read her piece. Is your sober state of mind limited to sexual advances? People sacrifice or compromise themselves all the time at the workplace to play politics, ensure job security, and get raises - under duress and implied threats of job loss or career laddering.

We all probably accept that some women go in specifically with the intent of using sex as a negotiating tool, ready to not only consent, but offer it up front in exchange for a leg up, so to speak. Gets tricky. It's a powerful tool since most men put sex alongside food and water as essential to life. You want the role, Madame? So do 1000 other beautiful highly qualified actresses. What makes you different? What?? You'll blow me???? Ok, deal!
True.

Working in an office all my life, for every one hunky guy playing it up to impress people wearing tight shirts to show their muscles, there's probably 20 women dolling themselves up with short skirts and loose blouses that show their assets.

Workplace politics are well known to all. Both sexes know what they are doing.
 

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Playing Devil's Advocate, what if some of these women perfectly knew what they were doing and agreed to it for sake of knowing Harvey would get them good gigs?

One person offers good jobs and wants sex. The other agrees, offers sex in return for good jobs.
'What if'? Aren't there allegations being made by women who had sex with Harvey? I'm sure they didn't fuck him because he's hot. The women who 'agreed' to having sex with Harvey were still raped. It's the coercion that makes it rape. It would be different if the woman initially offered sex for a good job.
 

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Legally speaking, there's a distinction between rape and sexual assault. Pressuring someone to having sex is not the same as actually going through with it. Pressuring someone to have sex would be considered sexual assault. Going through with the deed is rape.
That's wrong. Assault requires touching or forcing the other person to touch you. Merely making persistent, unwanted overtures is not assault.
 

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That's wrong. Assault requires touching or forcing the other person to touch you. Merely making persistent, unwanted overtures is not assault.
I think that would be called considered sexual harassment then.
 

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'What if'? Aren't there allegations being made by women who had sex with Harvey? I'm sure they didn't fuck him because he's hot. The women who 'agreed' to having sex with Harvey were still raped. It's the coercion that makes it rape. It would be different if the woman initially offered sex for a good job.
So Bill Clinton should have served jail time, agreed?
 

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It's not hard to understand how Harvey flourished in this environment.
 

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and she's not 100% sure she wants to go along with the program, its rape!

End of story
I am never 100% sure I want to go to a dentist, but I go and he gives me a shot in my mouth and it hurts and he puts metal shit in my mouth and I hate him and I am not happy after. Was I assaulted by a dentist?
 
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