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ManAboutTown said:
I have to say I was rather disappointed with the end results this year, Ramsey lost a ton of my respect this time around.

First and foremost, if "potential" was the major cirteria, then he shouldn't have anyone over 30 on the show. Petrozza at 47 is certainly near his peak, which means he lost right out of the gate.

At the end of the day Petrozza could have had a perfect service and perfect comment cards, and he still would have lost.

(anyone else notice winners over 4 seasons... guy - girl - guy - girl ?)
Quit whining, Christina was alot more consistent with the challenges etc.

If you're trying to say it was fixed...GET OVER IT!
 

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Like another comment - this is the only reality show that I also watch - I have enormous respect for Gordon Ramsay - not only from this show but from Kitchen Nightmares - whether it is him or he has great writers the shows show someone that is professional, not afraid to say what he likes and has put his ass on the line over and over. You can't argue with is success. As far a a winner tonight - well, at the start of the series I couldn't believe how inept these people were - how did they get there - but of all -- Christina and Petrozza were the only two who should have been left standing, although Bubba Bobby (The General) was good for a laugh. Christina had to win, she had the balls to pull off a lot of wins and would smoke Petrozza in the real world. Too bad she isn't a piece of ass - then for sure you could have said it was because of that she won.
 

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ManAboutTown said:
I have to say I was rather disappointed with the end results this year, Ramsey lost a ton of my respect this time around.

First and foremost, if "potential" was the major cirteria, then he shouldn't have anyone over 30 on the show. Petrozza at 47 is certainly near his peak, which means he lost right out of the gate.

At the end of the day Petrozza could have had a perfect service and perfect comment cards, and he still would have lost.

(anyone else notice winners over 4 seasons... guy - girl - guy - girl ?)
Most things seem scripted. Like the competition last week... It is entertainment so be it.
 

Scarey

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A few thoughts..

I cannot believe Jen asked him for a reference mid show.What a loser!!!....Did anyone else notice that Ramsay did not follow Christine outside but went directly to petrozza who was probably having the worst moment of his life? Very Classy.I'll watvch next time around.Cheers
 

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Petrozza looked like he got hit with a shovel after Christina won. I thought he would win based on his last service and menu, but I think Christina was the best throughout the whole series.

One question about previous winners though, the last season the winner was supposed to be executive chef at the Las Vegas restaurant. They visited that restaurant this season and he wasn't there. Did he get fired?
 

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Scarey said:
I cannot believe Jen asked him for a reference mid show.What a loser!!!....Did anyone else notice that Ramsay did not follow Christine outside but went directly to petrozza who was probably having the worst moment of his life? Very Classy.I'll watvch next time around.Cheers
Ya Petrozza's body language said it all when it didn't open for him.
I caught that about Gordon as well, he went over with open arms to hug the guy, he obviously thought he was capable and talented, so he just gave him a little reassurance.

Jenn asking for that reference letter, extremely stupid.
Her actions on the last show really screwed her chances for any future jobs.
What a retard.:rolleyes:
 

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This just in.....

Jen and Omarosa (from the Aprentice) are planning on opening a new NYC restaurant together. It will be situated in off an alley and called the Fight Supper Club :D
 

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plunker said:
Petrozza looked like he got hit with a shovel after Christina won. I thought he would win based on his last service and menu, but I think Christina was the best throughout the whole series.

One question about previous winners though, the last season the winner was supposed to be executive chef at the Las Vegas restaurant. They visited that restaurant this season and he wasn't there. Did he get fired?
They did meet up with Rock in that episode.
 

drrogers

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I missed Season 1

Robynn Quinn said:
I'm sure Petrozza will land on his feet - the one thing that can be said about him is he was always a nice guy. He took the high road and even when the stakes were high - was a team player.

I knew Christina would win - sure she may need some seasoning, but she is really talented for her age and current experience.

Jen is an ass - and more annoying than that - is one of those people who thinks that no one can see how much of a total ass she is. I can't believe that she had the nerve to ask for a reference letter .... AND actually try to tell him what to put in it!!!

Fishface (I can't remember his name) is just as bad - his attitude was horrid and the muttering under his breath was nuts. I thought she would boot him from the kitchen.

And yes Chef Ramsey was classy hanging back with Petrozza. I think he may do the win win thing yet....sort of like what he did with the season 1 guy.

rq
I missed Season 1 = what happened there>
 

Tarkus

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HK.. Fun but probably fixed?

I have watched all the HK seasons in the US and much of his US/UK Kitchen Nightmares and to that end even played his Hell's Kitchen game, (a rather silly but incredibly addictive point and click game), so obviously I like both him and his shows but one has to believe that HK is fixed.

By fixed I mean he probably has two or three identified potential winners and using his process of elimination he can filter the contestants down to he previously defined choices. How else can one explain how most of these people who are supposedly in the industry seem to get a glazed look on their face when they are told to turn on the stove, "hey Jenn.. what exactly is a stove again?" I once saw an episode of HK and then went to the Food Channel and watched Top Chef and the disparity was shocking. So much to the point that one can only presume that all but a few of the chefs are simply cannon fodder.

One thing I will say in general is that if I ever get arrested for murder I want the people who select the HK and Survivor candidates to help with jury selection. Every year both shows find exactly the people they need to fill the slots of idiot, self centred bitch, awkward moron etc. Sadly some of it panders to existing stereotypes, ie: on Survivor they always seem capable of finding the archetypal lazy black person, on HK woman who is a scheming bitch out to screw over the other women, etc. But I guess that makes for good TV.

Finally!!!! Do none of these people ever watch the show in advance?

1. On Survivor learn on how to make a fire before going to island!
2. On HK learn how to make Risotto.
3. On Survivor, (especially if you are black), once having learned you are on the show go to the YMCA AND LEARN HOW TO SWIM!
4. On HK learn how to make Beef Wellington.
5. On HK read Ramsay's books, (although in fact each day you succeed in the game you get a recipie), and get an idea about what ingredients he likes to use and garnishes.
6. On HK go to one of his restaurants and see how items are presented and taste!


I mean really! You're on a show that is centred on one chef and it seems most of these people are like deer staring into the headlights when Ramsay makes a request. Who was the girl who asked Jenn how long to cook a filet or Wellington and Jenn lied so it would be under-cooked. Yes Jenn was a bitch for doing that but this is a Ramsay standard and you should know it inside and out!

Rant ends! :eek:
 

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ManAboutTown said:
That being said, I think that the end results of this season for me where disappointing mostly because Petrozza didn't have a chance to start with. Christina was the chosen one from about 4 or 5 episodes back, and it was just a case of playing out the string and getting rid of the other players in due course.
It is kind of a shame that the TV entertainment value has to supersede the direction of the program. Do you recall Big Brother 1? In that show they selected the usual set of jerks, (the first to go was a former Black Panther of all things), but it was the public who got to vote who was kicked out. The CEO of CBS was appalled to see that the public evicted the 'right people' and felt that the show lost its edge and in response the public has never been given input at that level since. I guess one has to remember that almost all reality shows are directed towards teens and twenty somethings and their demographic supposedly plays to watching people get hurt and people with 'attitude'.

But that said I think HK has gone a little too obvious as to who are contenders and who are there to be abused and kicked off.

I agree with your position on Petrozza. I was starting to think that Ramsay had changed his mind about him over the last few weeks and with Christina he had the perfect excuse, "you are a fantastic chef but you need more training and experience so I am going to send you to the Cordon Bleu and there will be a job waiting for you with me." So I was sure it would be Petrozza until literally the commercial break between them opening the door when I thought, "wait! The reward isn't winning a restaurant or even being the top chef, this is a second in command job! He can make this fit with Christina." And of course she was the winner.

Despite her winning many challenges I do not think she was the winner given the mandate of the show. Her recipes were unimaginative and while maybe Petrozza could be a bit over the top if you compare Ramsay's recipes with the two contenders Petrozza is far more in line. However Ramsay in fact does have a history of hiring younger chefs that he feels have potential to mature in his restaurant system. Someone at Petrozza's level and ability might work for him for 3 years and then with that rep get some backers to open his own restaurant whereas Christina could be a long term employee.

Regardless my vote is with yours and aside from seeing that Petrozza was clearly devastated by losing I believe he was the right choice.
 

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Was there a lot of advertising for the new HK that started tonight? cuz i certainly didnt see any until little earlier, but i forgot about it and missed the first 20mins. Was there an challenge and reward already?
Tuned in in time to see the 1 guy that knows too much about ramsay.
Wonder hot the last winner is dong these days.
 

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milhouse said:
Was there a lot of advertising for the new HK that started tonight? cuz i certainly didnt see any until little earlier, but i forgot about it and missed the first 20mins. Was there an challenge and reward already?
Tuned in in time to see the 1 guy that knows too much about ramsay.
Wonder hot the last winner is dong these days.
Fox carried it at 9 pm, at least on the Detroit affiliate.
 

T.O.tourist

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episode 1 of the new season was last week.

Now, Get out of my kitchen you f*cking donkey!!
 

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T.O.tourist said:
episode 1 of the new season was last week.

Now, Get out of my kitchen you f*cking donkey!!
Last week? WTF!!! and here i am thinking i've only missed 20 mins lol Damn, first episode is always good, see their backgrounds, skills etc. Now i dont know who to pick to win lol

2nd episode and they are finishing their tickets already. Has that ever happened b4, usually they get kicked out rite? lol could this be the best group ever
 

T.O.tourist

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Havn't seen this weeks episode yet but they do seem like the best group yet. At least they all have some cooking experience this time.
 

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Does anyone know what channel will show Hell's Kitchen uncensored? I've seen some youtube clips uncensored and wanted to know where to find this on tv.
 

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Food Network
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