Highway Driving Part II

hunter001

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Moraff said:
Had a bit of a brush with road rage (or at least inattention).

Approaching an intersection at a moderate pace (because I know you can't make it on green from the last light w/o driving stupidly fast). Car behind following pretty close (apparently he doesn't know what I do). Amazingly enough light turns yellow and I brake at a reasonable speed. I just get stopped and.... yup you guessed it..... "crunch" from behind. Apparently (even though the light turned red well before I would have reached the intersection) he thought I was going to floor it and go through.

Getting out of our cars we survey the damage. Finding out that mine is just a bumper cover with some scuffs and a small tear compared to his crumpled in nose and fluid pouring out everywhere put me in a better frame of mind.

So we pull over and exchange info as he's going on about how he thought I was going to go thru the red (in response to my comment that I guess he didn't see the light change) and how he really didn't need this today. (to which I replied, 'wasn't on my plans either').

So instead of going home and finishing yard work I had to run around getting a couple quotes to let him know what it's going to cost him.

Mine's looking at about $700. His is going to be a lot more since parts for his car are a lot more than mine. There's a definite advantage to getting run into by a Porche Boxster. :) They look pretty, but they fold up a little too easily.
Legally you should have called the cops (limit is $1000 of damage). Good nobody got hurt.
 

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Unfortunately I don't have a tach so I can't be sure when I hit the correct rpm. I know it's possible to figure out what the relevant speed would be in each gear, but then I'd have to know the gear size and the formulae to use.

I'm lazy, I was hoping somebody had the info already figured out for me on the web somewhere. :)
Wait, you have a standard and not a tach? Must be an econo box (just kidding).

I will make an assumption here and guess that it's a smaller car, smaller engine. If so, I'd say a good start point for max efficiency is about 100 kph in 5th. Click on the cruise and pay attention to the speed and throttle position when you're going uphill. If you find the throttle gets depressed (or increased) by the cruise, and you lose a far bit of speed, try upping it to 105 kph.....do the same again. You wil find a point where your car will not vary much in throttle position whether going up a hill or running flat.

Now this is all based on the assumption that you don't have to down shift or apply too much gas when you are controlling the throttle without the cruise.
 

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tboy said:
Wait, you have a standard and not a tach? Must be an econo box (just kidding).
Sorry didn't mean to imply I had a standard. It's an automatic, but they have gears too unless I really missed something in shop class. :)

It's a 2000 Ford Focus, so yah it's nothing to brag about, but it's paid for and it get's me from point a to b with less gas used than the F-150 I used to have.


tboy said:
I will make an assumption here and guess that it's a smaller car, smaller engine. If so, I'd say a good start point for max efficiency is about 100 kph in 5th. Click on the cruise and pay attention to the speed and throttle position when you're going uphill. If you find the throttle gets depressed (or increased) by the cruise, and you lose a far bit of speed, try upping it to 105 kph.....do the same again. You wil find a point where your car will not vary much in throttle position whether going up a hill or running flat.
cool, thanks.
 

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hunter001 said:
Legally you should have called the cops (limit is $1000 of damage). Good nobody got hurt.
Yah, but I didn't think it was going to cost that much (didn't notice the hole in the cover until the garage pointed it out and had no idea what Porche parts cost).

Besides we are able (so far) to work it out amiably and other than us no one was inconvenienced (or not longer than it took us to move off to the side) so why involve the government if we don't have to? The last time I had to report a minor fender-bender like this the cop gave the appearance of "why are you bothering me with this".
 

hunter001

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Yah, but I didn't think it was going to cost that much (didn't notice the hole in the cover until the garage pointed it out and had no idea what Porche parts cost).

Besides we are able (so far) to work it out amiably and other than us no one was inconvenienced (or not longer than it took us to move off to the side) so why involve the government if we don't have to? The last time I had to report a minor fender-bender like this the cop gave the appearance of "why are you bothering me with this".
If it was a Porche Boxster and it had fluid leaking out of it then it is going to be > $1000.

Buddy doesn't doesn't sound like a good driver, the more he get charged the likelihood of him hurting someone else goes down. If you find you neck hurts (for example) a few days later you have no course of action.

Your decision whatever works for you.
 

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hunter001 said:
If it was a Porche Boxster and it had fluid leaking out of it then it is going to be > $1000.
Sorry, I should have elaborated --> windshield washer bottle got squished. We met his front left with my rear right corner and he slid under.

hunter001 said:
Buddy doesn't doesn't sound like a good driver, the more he get charged the likelihood of him hurting someone else goes down. If you find you neck hurts (for example) a few days later you have no course of action.
Both true statements to be sure, but I don't really want being involved in an accident on my record either since it wasn't me at fault and my damage is minimal. Insurance companies don't like people who happen to be at the wrong place at the wrong time even if it's not their fault.

I don't think I'm in much danger of delayed damage, speed was low and I was sitting square in my seat with my head back against the rest. (Which is usually how I sit at stops, for just such reason as today)

hunter001 said:
Your decision whatever works for you.
Yup, If the damage had been more obvious and/or someone was injured I would definitely have called the cops. It just didn't seem that bad at the time.
 

hunter001

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Moraff said:
Yup, If the damage had been more obvious and/or someone was injured I would definitely have called the cops. It just didn't seem that bad at the time.
The last accident that I was in I got rear ended while I was sitting at a light. (Chick blabbing on cell phone). I got her information and she wanted to make a deal... I got some estimates, called her and just got the machine. I kept trying and got the boyfriend who told to F-off. I went to the reporting center, the cop wasn't impressed that I was reporting a 3-4 days after the incident but it was the only way I could any get compensation. (Similar thing happen when someone hit my parked vehicle, then didn't want to pay up when the estimate came in.)

I didn't notice my rating increasing at all as none of these accidents where my fault.
 

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tboy said:
As a parent I should think I'd like to spend at least half of those hours with my son or daughter instead of sitting in a car........
As a parent I think you should spend more time with your kids instead of coming up here on Terb.
 

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tboy said:
For all you 'tards that thinks it's cool to hit your brakes in front of someone for no reason.....
It could be that the guy who slammed on his brakes is a 'tard ...
but the 'tard who was riding his bumper doing 120k an hour is DEAD.

The lesson to be learned from this incident is leave enough distance between yourself and the vehicle ahead of you that you can stop safely. even if the unexpected happens. In other words ... don't tailgate!
 

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Egor said:
It could be that the guy who slammed on his brakes is a 'tard ...
but the 'tard who was riding his bumper doing 120k an hour is DEAD.

The lesson to be learned from this incident is leave enough distance between yourself and the vehicle ahead of you that you can stop safely. even if the unexpected happens. In other words ... don't tailgate!

Perhaps, but the even bigger lesson here is ANGER MANAGEMENT.
 

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it all comes down to respect for other people. As I've aged, gracefully thank you, I find that my driving has slowed down to just a tad over or under the speed limit, where suitable, and with the general flow where necessary on the 400 series roads. Going with the flow seems to be the safest approach, and one driving style personally recommended by an officer friend of mine. He didn't say "speed with the rest", but just said go with the flow. This also seems to save gas if you keep a nice steady foot on the gas, and not always use the cruise control. Fewer stops for coffee,and an acceptance that some folks will drive faster, others slower, results in a calmer drive for me. No, I'd NEVER stamp on the brakes to retaliate. Believe me, I've seen lots of road rage, none directed towards me thankfullly, and lots of other crazy driving stunts, since I drive 45k a year. So far I have over 1M km accident free and intend to stay accident free, but it requires concentration and forgiveness of others' bad habits. I value my life!Doug
A mature, sane response, with particular emphasis on the bold comments.
 

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RemyMartin said:
As a parent I think you should spend more time with your kids instead of coming up here on Terb.
I'm not a parent, I said that in the figurative sense putting myself into their shoes......

It could be that the guy who slammed on his brakes is a 'tard ...
but the 'tard who was riding his bumper doing 120k an hour is DEAD.
Yes, while that is true, there are many things that happened during this incident that shoudn't have happened.

One can draw many different conclusions from this: Rubmeister thought society is better off without either of these people on the road (a little harsh but no less true), Some think the guy behind is to blame, some think the guy in front is to blame, the guy who died should have been wearing his seatbelt (I referenced this in thread about getting dropped by insurance) and surely BOTH are to blame for escalating this into a fatality.

The reason I posted this thread was mainly due to the people in the original highway driving thread who were quite proud to openly state that they did just such an action to those who they felt were driving too close. I hope this thread hits home just how dumb BOTH maneuvers are....
 

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tboy said:
I'm not a parent, I said that in the figurative sense putting myself into their shoes......



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then spend some times with your parents, friends (if you have any), go out for a walk, movies, there are so many things people can do instead of come on terb 24/7. just like today you have already post more than 10 times, I feel sorry for you. Go out and get a life.:eek:
 

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Egor said:
It could be that the guy who slammed on his brakes is a 'tard ...
but the 'tard who was riding his bumper doing 120k an hour is DEAD.

The lesson to be learned from this incident is leave enough distance between yourself and the vehicle ahead of you that you can stop safely. even if the unexpected happens. In other words ... don't tailgate!
Heh, heh...
 

tboy

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RemyMartin said:
tboy said:
I'm not a parent, I said that in the figurative sense putting myself into their shoes......



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then spend some times with your parents, friends (if you have any), go out for a walk, movies, there are so many things people can do instead of come on terb 24/7. just like today you have already post more than 10 times, I feel sorry for you. Go out and get a life.:eek:
You a bum chum of hunter? You pay so much attention to how much I post?

Man, you've got way too much time on your hands!!!!
 

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Bonehead move to slam on the brakes but the guy also shouldn't have been tailgating.

Both people were in the wrong.
 
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