I will be honest @Josephine - I'm still looking at your sig tag - and didn't read a word you wrote - but will now
as its in my reply above.
How do SP integrate back into society?
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as its in my reply above.
I'm not here to defend my comments. I'm just going to say that i'm not talking about dating clients. This was not a conversation about clients.This is about people outside of the escort world. The previous commenter I was quoting was talking about why these women date losers and not successful people. It does have a lot to do with self esteem, stigma and just not having the time or the energy. Losers are easy and low maintenance.
I'm not talking about the escort/client dynamic at all. Men who would find out I was an escort would treat me like I was on call for them despite them having nothing to offer. They didnt have money, they weren't attractive, funny or interesting. There was nothing to hold my attention whatsoever.But they still expected me to be on call like they would treat an escort. They don't know how to separate the person from the job and they think how they treat their escort on the clock is how they need to treat an escort theyre meeting off the clock. There are a lot of things that we don't get out of interaction at work that we sometimes seek out from a relationship.
A lot of people have a hard time understanding that we are people who exist outside of this job and we don't expect to be treated like escorts when we're doing regular stuff like dating, going grocery shopping or going to the park.
Not everything is sexy... or about sex. I personally found that when people found out about what I did for a living it made them retarded. They instantly lost all ability to behave themselves and turned into drooling idiots that were totally incapable of having a conversation that didn't involve sex.
They were goons. When I clock out, I'm tired of goons. I deal with them all day. For some reason these loser guys figured out that we dont want to talk about sex all day and we have other interests and hobbies
It helps that they usually have massive dicks
when I dated losers I made sure they were hot and at least 9 inches or they were a throw away lol.
One time I dated a guy with a DUI who rode a bike to work and slept on his mom's couch because he f*cked me so good. im not proud of it but I was young and the sex was 10/10. They're all parasites. He ended up shacking up with some poor woman, buying a house with her down payment and taking half her sh*t about few years later. They're just looking for some sucker and a payout. He probably barely contributed the whole time and took half of a house he barely helped out with.
We date Mr. Charming that's good for now until something better comes along.
I had one of these parasites break it down for me. They find someone with money, get married or buy a house, pay nothing toward the house or the bare minimum and then get divorced. They get half plus she might have to pay alimony. For some guys, this is a whole life goal for them to take half of a woman's assets. They see it as an investment that keeps growing and they can cash it out at anytime. Its disgusting.
I'm not talking about the escort/client dynamic at all. Men who would find out I was an escort would treat me like I was on call for them despite them having nothing to offer. They didnt have money, they weren't attractive, funny or interesting. There was nothing to hold my attention whatsoever.But they still expected me to be on call like they would treat an escort. They don't know how to separate the person from the job and they think how they treat their escort on the clock is how they need to treat an escort theyre meeting off the clock. There are a lot of things that we don't get out of interaction at work that we sometimes seek out from a relationship.
A lot of people have a hard time understanding that we are people who exist outside of this job and we don't expect to be treated like escorts when we're doing regular stuff like dating, going grocery shopping or going to the park.
Not everything is sexy... or about sex. I personally found that when people found out about what I did for a living it made them retarded. They instantly lost all ability to behave themselves and turned into drooling idiots that were totally incapable of having a conversation that didn't involve sex.
They were goons. When I clock out, I'm tired of goons. I deal with them all day. For some reason these loser guys figured out that we dont want to talk about sex all day and we have other interests and hobbies
It helps that they usually have massive dicks
when I dated losers I made sure they were hot and at least 9 inches or they were a throw away lol. One time I dated a guy with a DUI who rode a bike to work and slept on his mom's couch because he f*cked me so good.
im not proud of it but I was young and the sex was 10/10. They're all parasites. He ended up shacking up with some poor woman, buying a house with her down payment and taking half her sh*t about few years later. They're just looking for some sucker and a payout. He probably barely contributed the whole time and took half of a house he barely helped out with. We date Mr. Charming that's good for now until something better comes along.
I had one of these parasites break it down for me. They find someone with money, get married or buy a house, pay nothing toward the house or the bare minimum and then get divorced. They get half plus she might have to pay alimony. For some guys, this is a whole life goal for them to take half of a woman's assets. They see it as an investment that keeps growing and they can cash it out at anytime. Its disgusting.
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I enjoyed the honesty in your posts, but my response in that post was a response to a guy who asked why popular and experienced escorts do not simply go to a bar near Bay Street and pick up a wealthy young man who will become smitten and ask her to marry him. I did not intend to pass judgement upon anyone, male or female, in conveying the unlikelihood of such an occurrence.I'm not here to defend my comments. I'm just going to say that i'm not talking about dating clients. This was not a conversation about clients.This is about people outside of the escort world. The previous commenter I was quoting was talking about why these women date losers and not successful people. It does have a lot to do with self esteem, stigma and just not having the time or the energy. Losers are easy and low maintenance.
I'm not talking about the escort/client dynamic at all. Men who would find out I was an escort would treat me like I was on call for them despite them having nothing to offer. They didnt have money, they weren't attractive, funny or interesting. There was nothing to hold my attention whatsoever.But they still expected me to be on call like they would treat an escort. They don't know how to separate the person from the job and they think how they treat their escort on the clock is how they need to treat an escort theyre meeting off the clock. There are a lot of things that we don't get out of interaction at work that we sometimes seek out from a relationship.
A lot of people have a hard time understanding that we are people who exist outside of this job and we don't expect to be treated like escorts when we're doing regular stuff like dating, going grocery shopping or going to the park.
Not everything is sexy... or about sex. I personally found that when people found out about what I did for a living it made them retarded. They instantly lost all ability to behave themselves and turned into drooling idiots that were totally incapable of having a conversation that didn't involve sex.
They were goons. When I clock out, I'm tired of goons. I deal with them all day. For some reason these loser guys figured out that we dont want to talk about sex all day and we have other interests and hobbies
It helps that they usually have massive dicks
One time I dated a guy with a DUI who rode a bike to work and slept on his mom's couch because he f*cked me so good.
We date Mr. Charming that's good for now until something better comes along.
I had one of these parasites break it down for me. They find someone with money, get married or buy a house, pay nothing toward the house or the bare minimum and then get divorced. They get half plus she might have to pay alimony. For some guys, this is a whole life goal for them to take half of a woman's assets. They see it as an investment that keeps growing and they can cash it out at anytime. Its disgusting.
You and Josephine explained it quite well, although I continue to think that not only do many people not want a traditional lifestyle, but that many people overestimate the quantity and availability of these supposed high-earning young men who would in theory be able to support a #tradwife. It ain’t the 1950s any longer. We no longer live in a society where the male, particularly the younger male, can easily be the breadwinner.
Trying to act like the present is anything close to the past has been a disaster for young people, particularly young men.
Are Young People Having Enough Sex?
Confronted with a Vegas buffet of carnality, Generation Z appears to be losing its appetite.
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You say on one hand “no judgement” and yet you are judging them already. Plus I can’t be polite on this topic just because you are writing it nicely however, “it’s none of your or anyone else’s business”. Why do you care? Why would you want to know? Do you want this as a dinner table gossip, with whom?
Honestly, this is kind of creepy as well.
I apologize for the distraction! I hope you were able to recoverI will be honest @Josephine - I'm still looking at your sig tag - and didn't read a word you wrote - but will now
You can do it it's not to late, here is proofThe OP is just curious, even though many of the SP are successfully integrated into society with their 'civie' life - this industry is exactly what it is - make more $ - side hustle - whatever you call it. I have always said, I wish I could do a side hustle of being a full fledge red blooded CDN male escort who only caters to high powered CEO-esque woman only and.....yes - I know - very specific but I'm already too far down in my fantasy to come back to the OP comments.....yeah - SP are fully integrated in our society - I bet he met one this morning and didn't even know it.
1 MILLION
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An elderly B.C. woman's will, leaving $1 million to a male escort, is being challenged in court by her family. Janet Henry, 84, designated Simon Garstin, a "professional companion and male escort," as the primary beneficiary of her estate in her August 2021 will. Her relatives, a niece and nephew, are contesting the will, alleging lack of capacity and undue influence. A friend who was previously named as a beneficiary in an earlier will has also joined the challenge
THIS CASE HASN'T been resolved yet.
I can relate to the curiosity of the OP. It’s only natural that they’ll get attacked for asking as is the way of the internet.
The average person- man or woman, will struggle with emotional connection, the higher the body count. Considering the numbers SPs do, the OP’s question is valid. Women generally have less regard for men, the more men they’ve slept with.
Even Johns will struggle as a result. But cheating on a partner to fulfil sexual needs isn’t common, or dare I say natural, with women.
The average person- man or woman, will struggle with emotional connection, the higher the body count. Considering the numbers SPs do, the OP’s question is valid. Women generally have less regard for men, the more men they’ve slept with.
Even Johns will struggle as a result. But cheating on a partner to fulfil sexual needs isn’t common, or dare I say natural, with women.
Have a few comments, and no judgement disrespect to the OP, as I think he meant no harm, but the question the way it was phrased is a little offensive tbh. We aren’t talking about rapists, murderers or other scumbags that need to “re integrate” into society after they have paid their debt. Sex work is work. The women that do it, really represent a spectrum of society. They have families, jobs, go to school, have kids and indeed many have partners (if they so choose), even loving ones, who support them in their careers and life ambitions.
Personally, if I was in the market for a relationship I wouldn’t care about a woman’s “body count” any more than I would care about how many cars she’d owned or how many apartments she had rented, (notwithstanding STI issues, which tbh are more of concern with a “civilian” girl who has been with a lot of guys vs a pro who’s sexual health is not only important but it’s her livelihood). Doesn’t matter, and I don’t care.
Where I think relationships may get hung up is on the fact that sex is often a flashpoint between men and women, where differences in desire and expectations can lead to problems and resentment. If sex was an issue in a relationship, then I can see where sex work could be a real sticking point, and many guys might get stuck on it and not be able to get past it.
Having said all that, on the other hand, sex workers often have a more “pure” and honest, objective view of sex, desire, love and affection, and are able to separate those things, in a way that most of us non SW (men and women) find impossible to do. I have been really lucky to meet a number of women this world who are truly kind and caring and generous in a way that is pretty unique, those are pretty fucking good characteristics in a partner, and if they chose so, a guy would be lucky to have them. The stigma of sex work is of course a huge issue, beyond my comments here.
Personally, if I was in the market for a relationship I wouldn’t care about a woman’s “body count” any more than I would care about how many cars she’d owned or how many apartments she had rented, (notwithstanding STI issues, which tbh are more of concern with a “civilian” girl who has been with a lot of guys vs a pro who’s sexual health is not only important but it’s her livelihood). Doesn’t matter, and I don’t care.
Where I think relationships may get hung up is on the fact that sex is often a flashpoint between men and women, where differences in desire and expectations can lead to problems and resentment. If sex was an issue in a relationship, then I can see where sex work could be a real sticking point, and many guys might get stuck on it and not be able to get past it.
Having said all that, on the other hand, sex workers often have a more “pure” and honest, objective view of sex, desire, love and affection, and are able to separate those things, in a way that most of us non SW (men and women) find impossible to do. I have been really lucky to meet a number of women this world who are truly kind and caring and generous in a way that is pretty unique, those are pretty fucking good characteristics in a partner, and if they chose so, a guy would be lucky to have them. The stigma of sex work is of course a huge issue, beyond my comments here.
The whole premise of the question is flawed. Integrate back into society?? It's not like they've been in Alcatraz for 20 years; they have always been in the society. Everyone has secrets anyways.
Everclear also addressed this societal issue through song and video.
After Porn Ends - Wikipedia
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Two fun facts.
The hot actress was an actual stripper doing the classic LA thing of stripping while getting minor actress roles. There was once an agency in LA called Platinum Connections that had unbelievably hot ladies who fit that mold. Now there are likely many such independents. The band was skeptical at first, then they found out she was perfect and could really act.
The other fun fact is that, even though there are children galore in the video, it was one of the few songs not played when Everclear did a major concert at Disney.
The band was skeptical at first, then they found out she was perfect and could really act.
Too bad they were a shit band that couldn't really play.
I feel like I could be in a serious or open relationship with a former SW. I don't think I'd be internally secure enough to be with someone that's currently in the industry. But once they're "reintegrated " into society of coarse haha. Joking about the reintegration part.
Exactly. Who is to say that am sp will share with anyone their past?
There are two problems with telling someone you were a sex worker.
1. they have issue with the body count for the reasons we all know. They want to know how many were bigger and better then them and they get it stuck in their head.
or
2. they expect sex all the time. When they want, how they want, etc. They think because you did it as job, you will do it like that at home. Not realizing it was a JOB.
At least this is what I have heard some women complain about.
1. they have issue with the body count for the reasons we all know. They want to know how many were bigger and better then them and they get it stuck in their head.
or
2. they expect sex all the time. When they want, how they want, etc. They think because you did it as job, you will do it like that at home. Not realizing it was a JOB.
At least this is what I have heard some women complain about.
