Is there a double standard when ...

[sweetiepieexo]

Hi everyone.

I dont normally post much but a certain text exchange recently made Me want to ask the question

Is there a double standard when it comes to girls choosing who they see . I always thought that guys choose who they see so why can't the ladies ?

I find that sometimes when girls turn down guys they get threatened with bad reviews . Why is that ? Could it be ego ? Could it be that this guy has been rejected before and is tired of it happening ?

What are your thoughts on this? Do girls have a right to choose who they see just like the guys do ?

 

[Tashki]

I mean…one of the purposes of seeings SPs is to NOT get rejected. Seeing SPs is an avenue to bypass the mental gymnastics, hurdles and logistics of meeting women when it comes to dating.

So when I get rejected by an SP when I am PAYING to see her, it’s definitely going to hurt my self esteem. The whole city has the opportunity to see her except for me. Yeah…I’m going to feel like I am the lowest of the low at that point so of course it will bother me.

There’s a big difference between getting rejected by a woman after asking her out vs an SP rejecting me in seeing her when seeing men is literally her profession.

Not only I am unable to take a beautiful women out on a date, But not even money will save me in spending time with a hot SP when that’s literally her job. Words can’t even describe how worthless my value is as a human being if an SP rejects me. How bad can I be as a man if an SP doesn’t want to spend time with me when that’s literally her job?

To answer your question, you obviously do have a right to choose who you want to see.

 

[Jasmina]

100% you have a right to choose not to see someone, for any reason at any time.

 

[Jenesis]

Hi everyone.

I dont normally post much but a certain text exchange recently made Me want to ask the question

Is there a double standard when it comes to girls choosing who they see . I always thought that guys choose who they see so why can't the ladies ?

I find that sometimes when girls turn down guys they get threatened with bad reviews . Why is that ? Could it be ego ? Could it be that this guy has been rejected before and is tired of it happening ?

What are your thoughts on this? Do girls have a right to choose who they see just like the guys do ?

Picky and choosy category over here but I have been loud enough about that before.

I’m a selective chooser even. At my home incall, you have to be between a certain age. But hotel incalls have a wide range. I still won’t see anyone to young but I have a lower threshold in a hotel.

Reason - I can’t explain a 27 year old coming to my home. But I don’t have to worry in a hotel.

Men have to realize that unless you are personally being blacklisted, the “rejection” has nothing to do with you and everything to do with what works for the SP. They need to not take it so personally.

 

[LukeG]

Yes, you have the right to see anyone you want.

 

[Tashki]

To be honest, you shouldn’t even have to ask this.

Your body, Your choice.

 

[sweetiepieexo]

I mean…one of the purposes of seeings SPs is to NOT get rejected. Seeing SPs is an avenue to bypass the mental gymnastics, hurdles and logistics of meeting women when it comes to dating.

So when I get rejected by an SP when I am PAYING to see her, it’s definitely going to hurt my self esteem. The whole city has the opportunity to see her except for me. Yeah…I’m going to feel like I am the lowest of the low at that point so of course it will bother me.

There’s a big difference between getting rejected by a woman after asking her out vs an SP rejecting me in seeing her when seeing men is literally her profession.

Not only I am unable to take a beautiful women out on a date, But not even money will save me in spending time with a hot SP when that’s literally her job. Words can’t even describe how worthless my value is as a human being if an SP rejects me. How bad can I be as a man if an SP doesn’t want to spend time with me when that’s literally her job?

To answer your question, you obviously do have a right to choose who you want to see.

So it is an ego thing ? I find that in this business there are tons of double standards to what women / men can do .

For example a guy can choose not to see a lady because he doesn't like her body type or services , etc.

However when a girl turns down a guy during a text exchange and there is no money lost and no time wasted except for the texting , does he have the right to threaten her with a bad review? Or should he respect her choice and just find someone else to see ?.

@Genesis those are some very good points. I think guys have to realize it has nothing to do with them and everything to do with how comfortable the sp is during the booking process.

@Jasmina , I always thought that too.

 

[Claudia Love]

Of course you can turn down a guy ...theres some men that are beyond unstable out there and just flat out problems waiting to happen. If im getting naked with a guy and putting myself in a vulnerable position risking my life from abuse or physical harm. your darn right im screening to the max to make sure I know if were a good match or not . If guys want it easier call an agency.

 

[Samranchoi]

I mean…one of the purposes of seeings SPs is to NOT get rejected. Seeing SPs is an avenue to bypass the mental gymnastics, hurdles and logistics of meeting women when it comes to dating.

So when I get rejected by an SP when I am PAYING to see her, it’s definitely going to hurt my self esteem. The whole city has the opportunity to see her except for me. Yeah…I’m going to feel like I am the lowest of the low at that point so of course it will bother me.

There’s a big difference between getting rejected by a woman after asking her out vs an SP rejecting me in seeing her when seeing men is literally her profession.

Not only I am unable to take a beautiful women out on a date, But not even money will save me in spending time with a hot SP when that’s literally her job. Words can’t even describe how worthless my value is as a human being if an SP rejects me. How bad can I be as a man if an SP doesn’t want to spend time with me when that’s literally her job?

To answer your question, you obviously do have a right to choose who you want to see.

And exactly how many times have you been rejected by an SP?

That said, if a guy chooses not to see a girl because he doesn't like her body type/looks or her services are too restrictive for him, generally the girl would never know that she was passed on because he wouldn't reach out.

Unfortunately this statement is not totally true. On a board like this, many guys comment on a woman’s body type, facial features, service etc......and not only may she see those comments but those who read also see it. So her rejection is seen by many while her rejection of a guy is almost always private.

 

[Jasmina]

Unfortunately with unstable people, explaining that a vibe is off is a dangerous thing in itself for a SW. He could try booking under a different name/number and become violent. It is honestly safer for a SW to just ghost a texter/caller than is giving off weird vibes, or come up with random excuses. I would generally just go with, "Sorry, I am no longer available", when I was working, and ignore future attempts to contact. I know guys don't often like this approach, it is likely frustrating, but at the end of the day, the provider has to trust her instincts and protect herself as, very sadly, harm is a very real part of the world we live in.

Of course you can choose who to see or not to see and threats should never come into the equation. Hell, the fact that he threatened you should, in and of itself, confirm that you made the right choice not to see this particular 'gentleman'.

That said, if a guy chooses not to see a girl because he doesn't like her body type/looks or her services are too restrictive for him, generally the girl would never know that she was passed on because he wouldn't reach out. But if a guy reaches out and the girl says she isn't interested the guy knows that he is being rejected.

Personally, I think a reason should be given from either side. Eg, a guy shows up and sees that the pictures he initiated the booking based on are either 10 years old and no longer representative of the girl he expected to see or was a straight up bait and switch, he should say something along the lines of "Sorry, but you don't look like the pictures you posted anymore and I made the booking based on your advertisement." As a side note, I don't believe he should be obligated to pay any kind of fee for wasting time in that scenario either as he was misled and his time was wasted also.

From the woman's side, and using your initial post as inspiration, if you are texting with someone and you get a weird vibe from them I think you should politely decline to see them and tell them straight out that you are getting a strange feeling and don't feel safe meeting them. I'm sure that will lead to begging/trying to convince you that your intuition is off but at least they have an idea of why you are rejecting them.

Long story short, nobody should be threatening anyone else over such a minor issue.

 

[Sonic Temple]

That would be cool if the SP's did indeed get to decide, this way I know they want to be with me and vice-versa. I always try to be a perfect gentlemen as I appreciate what the SP's do for us - lets me honest they are helping us fulfill a wonderful fantasy whatever that is and I love them for that. So 'yes' they should decide who they want. It will make it that much better for us. I do wonder though - what do the SP's really think .

 

[Samranchoi]

You are referencing guys commenting on a review and I agree that not everyone has enough class to avoid using derogatory terms when describing someone but that's not the same thing as rejecting her. Could you imagine sending texts to every SP you saw an ad for that wasn't attractive to you saying something along the lines of, "I'm looking to book someone today but you are just so damn, insert demeaning comment, so it sure as hell isn't going to be you!" I feel that is a little closer to the kind of rejection being presented. Because without a reason for an SP rejecting you I'm sure that a lot of guys are going to wonder if their looks or grammar or something are the reason for it. Especially when I have had SP's ask me to send them a pic of myself as a form of screening. And before you ask, I've yet to be rejected by anyone.

Also, if you are going to run a business you need to have thick enough skin to ignore the bad reviews. No different than a review of bad food at a restaurant. The SP chose to sell her body and should be prepared for criticism, whether justified or not.

There is just so much wrong about your response that I can comment on

 

[Jasmina]

It happens far more than you know...

Could you imagine sending texts to every SP you saw an ad for that wasn't attractive to you saying something along the lines of, "I'm looking to book someone today but you are just so damn, insert demeaning comment, so it sure as hell isn't going to be you!"

 

[sweetiepieexo]

You are referencing guys commenting on a review and I agree that not everyone has enough class to avoid using derogatory terms when describing someone but that's not the same thing as rejecting her. Could you imagine sending texts to every SP you saw an ad for that wasn't attractive to you saying something along the lines of, "I'm looking to book someone today but you are just so damn, insert demeaning comment, so it sure as hell isn't going to be you!" I feel that is a little closer to the kind of rejection being presented. Because without a reason for an SP rejecting you I'm sure that a lot of guys are going to wonder if their looks or grammar or something are the reason for it. Especially when I have had SP's ask me to send them a pic of myself as a form of screening. And before you ask, I've yet to be rejected by anyone.

Also, if you are going to run a business you need to have thick enough skin to ignore the bad reviews. No different than a review of bad food at a restaurant. The SP chose to sell her body and should be prepared for criticism, whether justified or not.

Unfortunately there are some guys who contact girls and have no problem bashing their appearance through text. It is not just review boards where guys voice their opinions . Are you saying that if a girl ( sp) turns down a guy it is ok for him to go on a review board and review her when he has not received any services and no money / gas was spent to go and see her ?

Also your statement " the sp chose to sell her body and should be prepared for criticism, whether justified or not " is extremely offensive and may have offended alot of people on this site . Most are just too scared to speak up.

To clarify , we're not selling our bodies. We are selling a service. We take our bodies home with us every night, we did not give it to anybody nor is it anyone else's property. Regardless of my / our profession - my body is my temple .

 

[Drakarys]

Do girls have the right to choose who they see?

Simple answer is yes, girls have the right to choose.

If we're talking about professional sex workers (SPs and MPs), then answer will depend on the context and circumstances.

With any job come responsibilities. We don't always get to choose what we WANT to do on the job. Some things we're obligated to do, so the same will apply to sex professionals.

Independent providers have more privilege of choosing who they see. There are screening requirements that hobbyist must pass in order to see a provider. Once a session is booked and a John walks through a door, then a girl can't just opt out if she doesn't like appearance or some other physical attributes. At this point a girl is somewhat obligated to deliver promised services, unless there are good reasons not to (ie: poor hygiene, bad smell etc)

It is a bit different for agency SPs and Spa MPs. They neither get to screen anyone nor have any idea who they're going to see. Can they decline service if they choose not to see a client? YES, but I don't think it's a good idea for a girl or Agency/SPA she works for. If hobbyists get a whiff of the fact that a service isn't guaranteed, then they'll avoid such business.

As far as double standards are concerned, I don't believe it applies quite frankly. Clients get to review a business and services provided. Haven't really heard of a successful business that reviews clients. Bad idea some might say.

I'll say this: some people need more class, especially when talking about or reviewing ladies. We are all human beings with feelings and emotions. Let's not forget that.

 

[Likeitgushy]

I’d say yes but I understand why guys get mad. I mean sp’s are supposed to be a guarantee hence the transaction. If they insult you after it’s basically like them trying to get you by hollering at you on the street, you politely rejecting them, and them insulting you after.

It’s an ego thing because sps should be a for sure score. If you are a sex worker anyone with enough money will feel entitled to have you. It’s flat out the energy you put out there.I don’t know if it’s wrong or not because it hard to decipher what is wrong in the sex trade.

 

[sweetiepieexo]

All these views are very interesting . Most agree that it is the girls choice , just as much as it is the guys. I guess we'll have to wait and see how the poll plays out.

 

[Drakarys]

All these views are very interesting . Most agree that it is the girls choice , just as much as it is the guys. I guess we'll have to wait and see how the poll plays out.

How would you poll an instance where a provider chooses to cancel a booking with a client already waiting at a meeting location?

How about a poll where a girl takes a donation, then chooses not to provide a good service because she isn't into a client?

How about a poll where such a girl gets a bad review on TERB, then comes here and gives "Her side of the story" by bashing a client?

IMO, it's not as easy as a YES or a NO poll.

 

[sweetiepieexo]

How would you poll an instance where a provider chooses to cancel a booking with a client already waiting at a meeting location?

How about a poll where a girl takes a donation, then chooses not to provide a good service because she isn't into a client?

How about a poll where such a girl gets a bad review on TERB, then comes here and gives "Her side of the story" by bashing a client?

IMO, it's not as easy as a YES or a NO poll.

Those are completely different scenarios than what I am referring to .

My poll is about guys who contact girls and then get turned down during the booking process - meaning no gas / money spent on trying to see her.

IMHO, if a guy gets to an incall location and the girl has to cancel for whatever reason - she is definetly responsible and should apologize .

As for your second question it is not about being into a client ( we all know how this business works , let's not flatter ourselves here. ) . Sure regulars can become friends but it is still a business . If a girl denies a bbbj or kissing to a client you have to remember that she can have her reasons for doing that. For example if she doesn't kiss it could be because the client has bad breath , or how about if a client has bad body odor / pimples / foul smell coming from down there ? For me those are valid reasons for refusing such services. Hygiene after all is the most important thing. I mean you wouldn't go down on a girl if she had a really bad odor down there would you ? These are the double standards I am talking about.

 

[Drakarys]

These are the double standards I am talking about.

There's a huge difference between a girl choosing who she sees and a choice of service she provides. If that's what you meant - it wasn't clear.

If you were referring to service, then Yes, a girl absolutely has a choice and threats of any kind from a client are not acceptable.