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People are bad at business all the time. That’s their right to fail.Since when are you a simple YES or NO kinda woman??
I always thought that the devil is in the details.
I was going to use Uber/Taxi analogy, but @fall beat me to it.
I have a car. It's mine. Can do whatever I want with it. Now, if I choose to use it for business to transport people, then rules change. If I tell everyone getting into it that Hey, it's MY car, don't touch this, don't do that... well, I won't stay in that business for long.
I am honestly dumbfounded that this is even a thread, or a question. I guess nobody really looks outside of their own perspective in this hobby…. But there are many “clients” in this hobby, and like most things in life, it’s probably easy to generalize them into categories…
Let’s see, first there is “you”, reading this. Yes, wonderful you, who has nothing but the best intentions for a wonderful hour, and a donation. You’re witty, (and once we get to know ya) charming as hell. Who could ever turn you down?
Then we have to also consider…
Mr Sat night Special! The 3am client. Maybe he struck out out clubbing, or was at a bachelor party strip club night… just shitfaced drunk and full of blow, and wants a girl now. He must be fun.
Prince Charming. Day drinker at the skid bar, and can’t speak a word when he’s full of booze. Probably takes great care of himself, and is on top of laundry. Bring on cheque day bitches! Yee Haw!!!
Master of the Universe…. Usually professionals who “get shit done!” The self important trouser stains with million dollar deals on the table… they have zero empathy for anyone less successful than themselves. I’m willing to bet the dates start out with them being charming, and by the end they are just talking about how much better then everybody else they are…. If the girl is really lucky, he is a bonified sociopath and treats her like shit during the date, because “she’s just a hooker after all.”
The Great Guy… he acts like a Master of the Universe… but he really hasn’t done anything. He’s got bling, the shoes, the jeans, the perfect hair…. (Some go so far as to get the used luxury car, and are always late on the payments). And he is just awesome. Look at him there, just hangin out being awesome. He can’t understand why he has to pay? He’s awesome. He’s not an ugly guy. He knows why you have to pay, but she should be happy such a great guy is even calling her. “Come on, $50… you’ll cum so hard once you see who I am”
Just so so many great offerings the male species has given this planet. I once heard a guy hanging outside a convenience store ask if a girl would blow him as he had $8…. Which turned into, “come on, I have some change too.”
Then there’s bondage guy…. And his best friend BDSM pain guy….
And my personal favourite…
The Pimp. Mr Human Traffic himself. Now honestly, we could break him down into basic characters as well… everything from “I’ll be your bf cause baby baby I got whachu need” guy, to straight out violence and threats guy. Point is, sex workers get targeted by these types.
Loners, incels, review board legends.
Fortunately, I think all these types are outliers… but you have to be aware they exist.
Let’s see, first there is “you”, reading this. Yes, wonderful you, who has nothing but the best intentions for a wonderful hour, and a donation. You’re witty, (and once we get to know ya) charming as hell. Who could ever turn you down?
Then we have to also consider…
Mr Sat night Special! The 3am client. Maybe he struck out out clubbing, or was at a bachelor party strip club night… just shitfaced drunk and full of blow, and wants a girl now. He must be fun.
Prince Charming. Day drinker at the skid bar, and can’t speak a word when he’s full of booze. Probably takes great care of himself, and is on top of laundry. Bring on cheque day bitches! Yee Haw!!!
Master of the Universe…. Usually professionals who “get shit done!” The self important trouser stains with million dollar deals on the table… they have zero empathy for anyone less successful than themselves. I’m willing to bet the dates start out with them being charming, and by the end they are just talking about how much better then everybody else they are…. If the girl is really lucky, he is a bonified sociopath and treats her like shit during the date, because “she’s just a hooker after all.”
The Great Guy… he acts like a Master of the Universe… but he really hasn’t done anything. He’s got bling, the shoes, the jeans, the perfect hair…. (Some go so far as to get the used luxury car, and are always late on the payments). And he is just awesome. Look at him there, just hangin out being awesome. He can’t understand why he has to pay? He’s awesome. He’s not an ugly guy. He knows why you have to pay, but she should be happy such a great guy is even calling her. “Come on, $50… you’ll cum so hard once you see who I am”
Just so so many great offerings the male species has given this planet. I once heard a guy hanging outside a convenience store ask if a girl would blow him as he had $8…. Which turned into, “come on, I have some change too.”
Then there’s bondage guy…. And his best friend BDSM pain guy….
And my personal favourite…
The Pimp. Mr Human Traffic himself. Now honestly, we could break him down into basic characters as well… everything from “I’ll be your bf cause baby baby I got whachu need” guy, to straight out violence and threats guy. Point is, sex workers get targeted by these types.
Loners, incels, review board legends.
Fortunately, I think all these types are outliers… but you have to be aware they exist.
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You have deep rooted disturbing, unhealthy issues that have nothing to do with the hobby.
You can't pay ANYONE TO ENJOY your company. Seeing escorts is a way to have fun and indulge yourself. It's not an outlet for insecurities or an attempt to feebly escape issues of self esteem. That's a whole different universe.
Seek out professional help regarding your self esteem issues. That would be a first step.
I don’t see escorts in hopes that they enjoy my company. It’s the other way around.
My point is, I pay escorts for them to not reject me.
Hypothetically, Let’s say that I saw a smoking hot babe at a bar, I ask for her number so I can take her out for dinner. She’s declines because I don’t meet her prerequisites in being her potential partner.
Sometime later after the rejection, She left some trails behind her tracks so I end up finding out that she works for an escort agency, I book her and she takes me as her client
At that point, I essentially paid her to not reject me. That’s how I always see it whenever I have sessions with sex workers.
Is it fair to say that every client that sees an SP is paying to not rejected? Isn’t that one of the purposes of seeing escorts?
I'm sure that there are SP's who get upset they aren't getting more clients and there are Johns who get upset at not being able to see certain provides but tough cookies to both.
And I'd much rather a woman be up front about their preferences than show up, hand over the cash and get a shitty experience.
p.s. At the same time, it's okay to criticize people for racial restrictions, even though it's not our choice to make.
And I'd much rather a woman be up front about their preferences than show up, hand over the cash and get a shitty experience.
p.s. At the same time, it's okay to criticize people for racial restrictions, even though it's not our choice to make.
Why pay to see someone who doesn't want to see you?
And I get it's about sex for you but if you don't understand they are a human, there are alternatives.
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If an sp turns down a client for whatever reason during the text exchange , I do not believe that warrants a bad review / threatening a bad review because he can not evaluate her services , looks , personality , etc. As some have said before it is just what they do / say to manipulate a girl into seeing them.
It gets a little tricky when your comparing different businesses to the sex business
That is correct.
Personally I don't feel like an sp has to see every single guy that messages her phone especially if he is making her uncomfortable or giving her weird / bad vibes .
Part of the money covers NOT having to hear what she actually thinks of you so get over that. Your high opinion of yourself may just be a matter of good customer relations...That would be cool if the SP's did indeed get to decide, this way I know they want to be with me and vice-versa. I always try to be a perfect gentlemen as I appreciate what the SP's do for us - lets me honest they are helping us fulfill a wonderful fantasy whatever that is and I love them for that. So 'yes' they should decide who they want. It will make it that much better for us. I do wonder though - what do the SP's really think.
Of course SPs have 100% right of refusal. For whatever reason. If this happens after part or all of the donation, obviously a refund is in order.
Now as a client, sure I might be confused of a girl decided, based on texting or a phone convo, decided not to book me. But if you think about it, the client dodged a bullet here. If she had gone ahead with it, feeling bad vibes, it’s very unlikely that you would have a decent time. Just move on, and maybe reflect on your communication style and how others may interpret what / how you say or write things. To persist in such a situation is self defeating.
Problem is there are some guys, who think that SPs are simply objects, that they have the right to use however they see fit, (often even before the fee changes hands).
Now as a client, sure I might be confused of a girl decided, based on texting or a phone convo, decided not to book me. But if you think about it, the client dodged a bullet here. If she had gone ahead with it, feeling bad vibes, it’s very unlikely that you would have a decent time. Just move on, and maybe reflect on your communication style and how others may interpret what / how you say or write things. To persist in such a situation is self defeating.
Problem is there are some guys, who think that SPs are simply objects, that they have the right to use however they see fit, (often even before the fee changes hands).
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I agree! Initial contact is a way for both parties to screen one another. I know myself when going into a rub n tug and the young lady comes out to say hello I base my selection not just on looks but how the greeting was as well. It doesn't mean if she was standoffish I would post a negative review.
First - your example is creepy AF
Second - escorts reject clients all the time. Age Restrictions, race restrictions, weight restrictions, screening, deposits only, etc, etc. The list goes on. That is not even getting into hygiene issues, rude behaviour, boundary pushing, etc.
Third - no, it is not fair to say that every client that sees an SP is paying to not be rejected. The purpose of seeing an escort is to get bust a nut and get some companion. @Don Draper is correct. You have deep rooted disturbing, unhealthy issues that have nothing to do with the hobby. You then project your issues on to the hobby. This is displayed in so many posts and threads you have made. In the most respectful and caring way possible - please look into getting some personal therapy.
I said "honest bad review", i.e., the fact that she refused services and how she did it (in advance, at the door, her attitude at that time, etc.)
I dont think you are misunderstanding what this thread/ question is .
My question is : does a girl have the right to chose who she sees ?
For clarification I am not talking about when you meet the girl and then she refuses services when you get there. Obviously that would warrant a bad review depending on her reasons for not providing the service.
I am talking about if you are messaging a girl and she says " I'm sorry I'm not comfortable meeting , have a good day ". Does that warrant a bad review / threatening for a bad review.
No . Lots of gentleman are married/ in relationships and see escorts because they are not being satisfied in their sex life with their partner. Most of the time if not ALL of the time it has nothing to do with rejection.
I feel that if a lady is uncomfortable during the initial call / text she has the right to refuse to see the client ; as it is her body / her choice.
There are some guys who feel entitled to almost anything just because the girl is a " sex worker ".
Ok fair but men CAN visit escorts to prevent rejection. That’s what I am trying to say.
I’m utilizing this hobby as a method to spend time with women who are my type. Seeing escorts who are my type greatly lessens my chances of getting rejected vs asking women who are my type out on a date.
You kind of proved my point lol. Guys tend to see sps who are their "type" so why shouldn't a girl have the same rights ?
If she feels that her and the client do not click / mesh well via the initial call / text/ booking process than doesn't she have the right to turn him down to avoid giving him a bad experience / sub par experience ?.
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