Is Trump a fascist?

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I agree that needs to be fixed but the border needs to be secured. If that takes a wall to be built in certain places so be it. Walls work, case in point Israel/West Bank
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They're inside the country long-term, arent they??

Did you even read the link I posted, fuji?? Doesnt sound like it
You're just flailing around trying to cover up your fractions goof.

There's no reason to think that the crime rate would be lower among illegals who aren't able to create these super spy mission impossible fake id's that are so good they aren't even detected when arrested, tried, and incarcerated. Why would illegals with fake ids have a different rate of crime than those without?

You are just doing that silly clown dance you do whenever you are wrong: you grasp at increasingly unlikely straws in order to avoid admitting obvious facts. This is just like when you refused to believe illegals subsidize social security even after you were shown a quote from their top actuary saying that they do.
 

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I agree that needs to be fixed but the border needs to be secured. If that takes a wall to be built in certain places so be it. Walls work, case in point Israel/West Bank.
The border can't ever be made impenetrable. The Gaza example is a great one: despite the impressive militarized border it's still a sieve. Hamas dug dozens of tunnels under the Gaza/Israel wall and has no trouble smuggling in even large weapons systems.

The border is actually pretty secure now, the trouble is the huge financial incentive to cross it makes it economical to go to extreme measures to get through. Much better to reduce the incentive, which can be done inexpensively, rather than take on the ridiculous cost is what Trump is proposing.

The math: at $4000/head a $2 million dollar tunnel through the border becomes profitable after smuggling just 500 people through it. Assuming 20 per day are brought through the 2mil investment is profitable within a month of becoming operational and it's pure profit after that.

You need to make it not worth $4000/head.
 

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Oh Fuji, the saying goes something like this: don't let perfect be the enemy of the good.

As for incentives - that's inbuilt when your country is rich and neighboring nation is poor.
 

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By the way, as far as polls go, Trump is ahead in virtually all upcoming contests.
 

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Oh Fuji, the saying goes something like this: don't let perfect be the enemy of the good.

As for incentives - that's inbuilt when your country is rich and neighboring nation is poor.
It's built in when you don't make it a felony to hire illegal immigrants. Why do you want to crack down on the poor and marginalized immigrants rather than the rich and well connected people who employ them?

It creates a sort of apartheid where the illegal employers can actually increase their abuse of low paid workers because recourse to the police is devastating to the immigrant but at worst a slap on the wrist to the scum who employs them.

The scum employer can just go hire different illegals the next day with virtually no consequence. They can use that as a threat to force illegals to work in unsafe and abusive conditions.

Instead the bias should be to go after the money, the employers who offer the jobs that attract the illegals in the first place.
 

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You're just flailing around trying to cover up your fractions goof
What fractions goof?? What on earth are you mumbling on about again?? :confused:

There's no reason to think that the crime rate would be lower among illegals
Good, I'm glad we agree on that :)

You are just doing that silly clown dance you do whenever you are wrong: you grasp at increasingly unlikely straws in order to avoid admitting obvious facts. This is just like when you refused to believe illegals subsidize social security even after you were shown a quote from their top actuary saying that they do
The only clown on this forum is you, fuji.

Tell us more how Lewandowski is going to jail for that viscious, horrible assault on Michelle Fields??
That poor girl, her hospital bills must be through the roof.

Good thing they got Obamacare in the US.
Now she just has to figure out how the website works
 

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What fractions goof?? What on earth are you mumbling on about again?? :confused:


Good, I'm glad we agree on that :)


The only clown on this forum is you, fuji.

Tell us more how Lewandowski is going to jail for that viscious, horrible assault on Michelle Fields??
That poor girl, her hospital bills must be through the roof.

Good thing they got Obamacare in the US.
Now she just has to figure out how the website works
Now the only argument you have left is to selectively cut words from my sentences. You had absolutely no answer to the point that these mission impossible immigrants with super secret identities you dreamed up would have to have a higher crime rate than other illegals for your claims to have merit.

Really you are just trying to avoid admitting that illegals have been proved to have as lower crime rate.
 

K Douglas

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Sanders drew 27,000 to a rally in New York.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...in-new-york-strikes-at-heart-of-establishment

Too bad the system is skewed against him.
That's a story that makes the news in the UK, but the US won't publish it.
Wow I agree with you on something. Wonders never cease. Sanders is being screwed by the establishment and super delegates. But he still has a major problem with the black precincts, which is why he's been annihilated in the southern states.
 

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The border can't ever be made impenetrable. The Gaza example is a great one: despite the impressive militarized border it's still a sieve. Hamas dug dozens of tunnels under the Gaza/Israel wall and has no trouble smuggling in even large weapons systems.

The border is actually pretty secure now, the trouble is the huge financial incentive to cross it makes it economical to go to extreme measures to get through. Much better to reduce the incentive, which can be done inexpensively, rather than take on the ridiculous cost is what Trump is proposing.

The math: at $4000/head a $2 million dollar tunnel through the border becomes profitable after smuggling just 500 people through it. Assuming 20 per day are brought through the 2mil investment is profitable within a month of becoming operational and it's pure profit after that.

You need to make it not worth $4000/head.
Of course the border wall isn't foolproof. But if you think the border is pretty secure right now then you are living in a dream state. If it was so secure how did the guy who killed Kate Steinle get back into the country not once but five times after being deported!?
I don't care about the math, security of the citizenry is paramount at any cost.
I agree there should be some stiffer penalties for those who are employing illegal workers. But you are kidding yourself if you think the only reason they are coming here is to work. Many are involved in the drug, human smuggling and prostitution trade. Many are coming for the freebies by having anchor babies. And they are using sanctuary cities to shelter themselves from being deported. It's a debacle.
 

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Now the only argument you have left is to selectively cut words from my sentences. You had absolutely no answer to the point that these mission impossible immigrants with super secret identities you dreamed up would have to have a higher crime rate than other illegals for your claims to have merit
They're not super secret identities. Hundreds of thousands of illegals commonly do this every day. Acquiring fake ID from dead people is easily done, and very hard to trace once they become US citizens.

You didnt even read the article, did you: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/e...rants-to-raid-social-security/article/2561498

Really you are just trying to avoid admitting that illegals have been proved to have as lower crime rate
You're trying to avoid the fact that its impossible to measure since nobody knows how many illegals there are in the US.

But why would anyone believe fuji anyways, you're the guy who claims Michelle Fields was visciously assaulted. Anyone with half a brain can see she was never assaulted, and on top of that she lied about the confrontation

Of course the border wall isn't foolproof. But if you think the border is pretty secure right now then you are living in a dream state. If it was so secure how did the guy who killed Kate Steinle get back into the country not once but five times after being deported!?
I don't care about the math, security of the citizenry is paramount at any cost.
I agree there should be some stiffer penalties for those who are employing illegal workers. But you are kidding yourself if you think the only reason they are coming here is to work. Many are involved in the drug, human smuggling and prostitution trade. Many are coming for the freebies by having anchor babies. And they are using sanctuary cities to shelter themselves from being deported. It's a debacle
Couldnt agree more, KD
 

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If it was so secure how did the guy who killed Kate Steinle get back into the country not once but five times after being deported!?
Same thing will happen with or without a boondoggle wall. Only difference is my taxes will go up to pay for it.

I don't care about the math, security of the citizenry is paramount at any cost.
Illegal immigrants make the US safer. They lower the crime rate.

But you are kidding yourself if you think the only reason they are coming here is to work. Many are involved in the drug, human smuggling and prostitution trade.
Comparatively tiny numbers. Orders of magnitude different. The drug smugglers especially won't be deterred by a wall.
 

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Latest Polls: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

Trump leads in California, Maryland, Pennsylvania, New York, and Connecticut.
California needs to be looked at district by district since it isn't a winner take all state. New York becomes winner take all if somebody gets over half the votes, otherwise it is proportional.

It's going to be interesting to see how many delegates actually each campaign gets.
 
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