But how would you know the added 20 million were of more (or less) criminal character??
You are missing a variable in your made-up equation, fuji
Is Trump a fascist?
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You are missing a variable in your made-up equation, fuji
You're making an assumption since they havent been added to the official stats yet.
You suck at statistics, fuji. Among the many things you suck at
Sky is not always blue, Earth is more of an Ellipsoid. Trump might be a complete A-hole, but he is far from the classical definition of a fascist.
Hopefully not, but the reality is that he can't really do that much damage if he does get into office.
So you like the current border policy which allows people who have been deported multiple times to re enter? Like the thug who killed Kate Steinle in SF. Shameful.
You also are ignorant of current laws which state that you could face imprisonment for hiring illegal workers. Up to 10 years in prison if it's proven you are a habitual employer of illegal workers. The problem with this - it's not enforced. Just like the immigration laws that are on the books. Furthermore, you assume that all illegal immigrants in the US are here to work. What a bunch of baloney. Many are thugs, drug dealers, human smugglers. Get a reality check fuji.
I'm making no assumption at all: they aren't in prison. The number in prison, the numerator, is known absolutely. The only thing being estimated is the denominator. If you think the denominator is larger than expected then the rate is lower than the studies say it is.
I'm sorry but you are simply struggling with fractions here.
Yes you are
No, its not. You have no way of knowing what percentage of that 20 million are criminals, and which arent
Citation of study needed
And I'm sorry you're struggling with facts. Although I'm not very surprised
Again, you are just failing at fractions. The number who were imprisoned is very well known: exactly known. The only thing that is being estimated is the size of the population from which those in prison come from.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-mythical-connection-between-immigrants-and-crime-1436916798
Key quotes:
"while the illegal immigrant population in the U.S. more than tripled between 1990 and 2013 to more than 11.2 million, “FBI data indicate that the violent crime rate declined 48%"
And the kicker:
“The incarceration rate for foreign-born adults is 297 per 100,000 in the population, compared [with] 813 per 100,000 for U.S.-born adults,”
If you think they underestimated the denominator...
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-mythical-connection-between-immigrants-and-crime-1436916798
Key quotes:
"while the illegal immigrant population in the U.S. more than tripled between 1990 and 2013 to more than 11.2 million, “FBI data indicate that the violent crime rate declined 48%"
And the kicker:
“The incarceration rate for foreign-born adults is 297 per 100,000 in the population, compared [with] 813 per 100,000 for U.S.-born adults,”
If you think they underestimated the denominator...
That doesnt take into account illegals who have assumed US identity through fraudulent means
Yes it did. You might be able to use a borrowed social to fool an employer who doesn't everify carefully, but you aren't going through the whole court and prison system without your actual status being determined.
You are just talking nonsense to avoid admitting the obvious, which is pretty fucking sad really.
The article also included this quote:
"A separate IPC paper from 2007 explains that this is not a function of well-behaved high-skilled immigrants from India and China offsetting misdeeds of Latin American newcomers. The data show that “for every ethnic group without exception, incarceration rates among young men are lowest for immigrants,” according to the report. “This holds true especially for the Mexicans, Salvadorans, and Guatemalans who make up the bulk of the undocumented population.”"
It makes sense if you think about it. Crime tends to be committed by people who feel hopeless and turn to antisocial behavior like drugs or joining a gang. Immigrants, including illegals, on the other hand, are people who have taken action to improve their lot and are executing on their plan. So it makes sense that they are more hopeful and positive about the future than poor Americans who see no meaningful way to advance.
Immigrants tend to do it for their families and even if they will never have status, and even though their life will be hard, they believe their children will grow up as American citizens with lots of opportunity so they feel their struggle is worthwhile.
I think we all know which groups in society the bulk of the crime is committed by.
Actually, you are. I saw a whole Dateline episode on this. What they do is acquire ID from a dead person, they then reapply for a SS# and go through the whole getting a drivers license part....etc. By the time they are done they are just like any other American citizen and nobody knows the difference.
See here: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/e...rants-to-raid-social-security/article/2561498
Breaking News:
Donald Trump was found unconscious in his New York luxury apartment. Emergency crews were able to get breathing again and he revived. Apparently he was chocking on his own bullshit.
Donald Trump was found unconscious in his New York luxury apartment. Emergency crews were able to get breathing again and he revived. Apparently he was chocking on his own bullshit.
They're inside the country long-term, arent they??
Did you even read the link I posted, fuji?? Doesnt sound like it
I agree that needs to be fixed but the border needs to be secured. If that takes a wall to be built in certain places so be it. Walls work, case in point Israel/West Bank.
