Maybe we can agree on 1964 when the PLO was formed? Which makes for atleast 3 generations of Palestinians. We can also agree that it exists today in a very real sense?The issue is when Palestinian arabs become different from other arabs?
Maybe we can agree on 1964 when the PLO was formed? Which makes for atleast 3 generations of Palestinians. We can also agree that it exists today in a very real sense?The issue is when Palestinian arabs become different from other arabs?
That sounds about rightMaybe we can agree on 1964 when the PLO was formed? Which makes for atleast 3 generations of Palestinians. We can also agree that it exists today in a very real sense?
A point to note, which you said in your prior post as well is that the Palestinian tag is for Jews, Christians and Muslims who lived in the region. But not for the Jewish immigrants from Europe. So if you were to accept a new Israeli identity, or apply the Palestinian identity to all Jews in present day Israel, then the issue with Palestinian identity being new does not arise.That sounds about right
I think on the grand scheme of things it don’t really matter at this point who is more indigenous and whose temples are more ancient.A point to note, which you said in your prior post as well is that the Palestinian tag is for Jews, Christians and Muslims who lived in the region. But not for the Jewish immigrants from Europe. So if you were to accept a new Israeli identity, or apply the Palestinian identity to all Jews in present day Israel, then the issue with Palestinian identity being new does not arise.
Is it not equally fair to say that you simply have millions of Palestinians who don't want to leave, and millions of Israelis who want them to be gone from river to the sea.I think on the grand scheme of things it don’t really matter at this point who is more indigenous and whose temples are more ancient.
Once again, you simply have millions of jews who don’t want to leave and millions of Palestinians and other various arabs who want them to be gone from the river to the sea.
All the talk about who came from Poland or who doesn’t have their own language or fairytales or culture is, if not hate speech, at least not helping bringing peace.
Absolutely and manifestly wrong.Is it not equally fair to say that you simply have millions of Palestinians who don't want to leave, and millions of Israelis who want them to be gone from river to the sea.
Deflection. Poorly educatedAbsolutely and manifestly wrong.
Israelis gave gaza back to Gazans almost 20 years ago. Israel forcefully removed their citizens from gaza at the time. Gazans could have built Singapore but they chose to build terror tunnels.
ThickThat’s meaningless because it includes Jews and arabs and christians who lived in Levant.
The issue is when Palestinian arabs become different from other arabs?
Sure it was ancestral.Who's here taking you seriously ? It's irrelevant what I post here - your opinion will never change
and I bet it was formed before Oct 7. According to you (and I took time to read on you posts from
the past) - Jewish people have no right to self determination, the land of Israel is not their ancestral
land and anything they do is criminal. That pretty much sums up your take.
Oatmeal’s response went way over your head. He provided some quality insights.I think on the grand scheme of things it don’t really matter at this point who is more indigenous and whose temples are more ancient.
Once again, you simply have millions of jews who don’t want to leave and millions of Palestinians and other various arabs who want them to be gone from the river to the sea.
All the talk about who came from Poland or who doesn’t have their own language or fairytales or culture is, if not hate speech, at least not helping bringing peace.
Same reason.Indeed, there are no hostages in Lebanon. Why would Israel attack Lebanon ? Quite a puzzling dilemma
Well, the facts on the ground are that there is a genocidal ethnic cleansing going on in Gaza, and spreading to the West Bank and Lebanon.Absolutely and manifestly wrong.
Israelis gave gaza back to Gazans almost 20 years ago. Israel forcefully removed their citizens from gaza at the time. Gazans could have built Singapore but they chose to build terror tunnels.
Do the 233 settler terrorist attacks in 2023 before Oct 7 count?Was October 7 a thought crime?
You don't attempt it. You shout it down from the mountaintops..Attempting to argue that all Jews are genocidal zionists is antisemitic hate speech.
Israel is still illegally occupying the west bank.Absolutely and manifestly wrong.
Israelis gave gaza back to Gazans almost 20 years ago. Israel forcefully removed their citizens from gaza at the time. Gazans could have built Singapore but they chose to build terror tunnels.
Every accusation is a confession.You don't attempt it. You shout it down from the mountaintops..
Based on what factual info to the contrary.This is a conspiracy theory.
Israel is not blameless. But its position is not anywhere near as radical as a call for wiping out israel “from the river to the sea”.Israel is still illegally occupying the west bank.
I think we discussed that in subsequent posts.Based on what factual info to the contrary.
And by the way, next you will claim that Canada gave the Millhaven Institution to the inmates.Absolutely and manifestly wrong.
Israelis gave gaza back to Gazans almost 20 years ago. Israel forcefully removed their citizens from gaza at the time. Gazans could have built Singapore but they chose to build terror tunnels.