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shack

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He also berated Anthopoulos for trading prospects to win in the present. Remind me, whom did we trade foe Hicks and DeJong?
As well, of all the players that AA traded away to "demolish" our farm system, how many of those guys amounted to anything? Maybe Syndegaard was good for several years but he's done. Travis D'arnaud is a journeyman catcher. I'd say that the runs that the Jays went on justified those 2 good, but non-championship making players.
 

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He also berated Anthopoulos for trading prospects to win in the present.
Sometimes, a team just has to go for it. Opportunities don't come around very often. For example, the Raptors traded a very good player and got Leonard for only one year but that one year is the only championship in the history of the Raptors.
 
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Sometimes, a team just has to go for it. Opportunities don't come around very often. For example, the Raptors traded a very good player and got Leonard for only one year but that one year is the only championship in the history of the Raptors.
True. Heck, not only did the Raptors trade a "very good" player, they traded their franchise player and one of the best in their history. It's one thing to trade a prospect your fans have never seen, and quite another to trade their hero before he's washed up.
 
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As well, of all the players that AA traded away to "demolish" our farm system, how many of those guys amounted to anything? Maybe Syndegaard was good for several years but he's done. Travis D'arnaud is a journeyman catcher. I'd say that the runs that the Jays went on justified those 2 good, but non-championship making players.
Agreed. In my opinion, Shapiro was spooked by the presence of Anthopoulos and purposely tried to drive him out. He probably knew firing Anthopoulos would be bad p.r. so he tried to make life miserable for him so he would leave voluntarily.
 
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Strange game tonight.
--Jays get 3 runs in the 6th without getting a hit. 3 walks, 2 HBP, 1 Oriole error.
--Game ends on a pickoff at first base.
--Not sure how thrilled Belt was with the ice water shower during his post game interview.
--Jays win the game with 3 hits total. 2 of them by ........wait for it......Belt.
 

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Agreed. In my opinion, Shapiro was spooked by the presence of Anthopoulos and purposely tried to drive him out. He probably knew firing Anthopoulos would be bad p.r. so he tried to make life miserable for him so he would leave voluntarily.
AA is very very good at his job. Honestly it was a travesty that he left.

Having said that I'm not as down on the present team of higher management that some members are here.

It would be interesting to see an analysis of their drafting and development outcomes from their tenure.

Well I guess there is this https://www.mlb.com/news/farm-system-rankings-2023-preseason

Yikes!....
 

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AA is very very good at his job. Honestly it was a travesty that he left.

Having said that I'm not as down on the present team of higher management that some members are here..
I feel that if AA had been left in charge, we would not have gone through that 5-7 year rebuild and we're still just barely a playoff contender. We had some abysmal teams in there just so Shapo could remove all remnants of the AA regime.

AA has had success everywhere he has gone. He was the face of the Jays and adored in the clubhouse.
 
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I feel that if AA had been left in charge, we would not have gone through that 5-7 year rebuild and we're still just barely a playoff contender. We had some abysmal teams in there just so Shapo could remove all remnants of the AA regime.

AA has had success everywhere he has gone. He was the face of the Jays and adored in the clubhouse.

Keith Law isn't big on Jordan Hicks....
 

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AA is very very good at his job. Honestly it was a travesty that he left.

Having said that I'm not as down on the present team of higher management that some members are here.

It would be interesting to see an analysis of their drafting and development outcomes from their tenure.

Well I guess there is this https://www.mlb.com/news/farm-system-rankings-2023-preseason

Yikes!....
If Shapiro hadn't treated AA like that I could give a more unbiased assessment of him, but my judgement is clouded.

Atlanta dead last in the prospect ranking.....there's irony for you.
 
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I don't follow the Jays closely anymore. Just heard that Springer ended a 0-35 streak. Is he the $150mm man?
 

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Wot??? Jim Germany was a gridiron football player, he retired long ago.

The Rainbow Roll was invented in Toronto by a young sushi chef named Shintaro. Now another Shintaro gifted us a rare victory over the Orioles.
Man, some of your posts are just too funny (in a good way). LOL. You know how to think outside the box.

I'm thinking that Germany played for The Esks. But that was quite a while ago.
 

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On March 11 last year, Pete Walker was charged with DUI. What happened with that? Was it buried for good old Pete? Was he innocent. Did he pay a fine? Did the Jays do anything at all? My point is that this may be the exception and if so, it is hypocrisy.

I am responding to a post way up above about how the Jays discipline players like Bass, Escobar, Osuna etc.
 

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On March 11 last year, Pete Walker was charged with DUI. What happened with that? Was it buried for good old Pete? Was he innocent. Did he pay a fine? Did the Jays do anything at all? My point is that this may be the exception and if so, it is hypocrisy.
I'm assuming Pete Walker paid for Xcoper, he pleaded guilty to the lesser charge of reckless driving and paid the fine.

As for thinking outside the box, that's how I earned a living.
 

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Ricky Tiedemann had another fine outing on July 29, eight days after his first rehab game since May 4. This time, after moving up a level from Rookie to Low A, Ricky fanned six in three innings for Dunedin.

There is an outside chance that he could pitch at six different levels of the Jays' system this year. I can't think of any player who has played at more than four different levels in the same season, and that includes both rising young stars and veterans who had minor league rehab assignments.

He hasn't yet pitched at High A, (Vancouver), AAA, (Buffalo), nor for Toronto.

Alek Manoah has also pitched at three levels this year, (Rookie, AA and Majors), but here's hoping he doesn't add a fourth, fifth or sixth.
 
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