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And since then, all of these unmissed starts, innings and sliders. I'm not loving it. Yeah he's a workhorse, but imagine the toll it takes on his elbow.

And from what I see so far, he seems to be a guy with great stuff that's good enough to always win… But not exactly a winning bulldog. Kind of like Kevin Gausman. Great competitor, but achieves the short end of the stick far too often. Hopefully I'm wrong.

Philip
You're not wrong Philip. He's a bit of a Jekyll and Hyde type player. Sure he misses a lot of bats but he also walks a ton of hitters. He has a career BB/9 of 3.8. Twice he's led the majors in wild pitches. Are we going to get the 2022 and 2024 version of him or are we getting the 2023 and 2025 version? I do have faith that Pete Walker and his staff will work to get the best out of him.
 

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The Jays will likely exceed the salary cap and happily pay the tax.

They will likely sign Bo to a shorter deal.

Vladdy had a great season in 2025. Bo did did not carry the team. He did make a great contribution to the team's successful season.
What team were you watching, vlad was pedestrian in the regular season and bo did most of the heavy lifting before his injury, along with Springer. He was still second in hits after missing a month or so. He should not make 200 while vlad makes 500m.

I think he signs elsewhere for the same money the jays offer to spite them. He's tired of being second fiddle. They had to use him to protect vladdy while Bo doesn't need protection.
 
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You're exactly right.

We're close to having a true contender...and I think last year was a bit of an outlier, certainly a surprise but there's lots to build on and much to be happy about. Cease could put us over the top.
 

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You're not wrong Philip. He's a bit of a Jekyll and Hyde type player. Sure he misses a lot of bats but he also walks a ton of hitters. He has a career BB/9 of 3.8. Twice he's led the majors in wild pitches. Are we going to get the 2022 and 2024 version of him or are we getting the 2023 and 2025 version? I do have faith that Pete Walker and his staff will work to get the best out of him.
It was an overspend I think. I don't know a lot about him, but I've been watching his highlights on YouTube. He also really short arms the ball. Doesn't get full loose extension. I don't like that. And then you factor in how many sliders he throws and how he is such a workhorse. Whenever I see pitchers with these types of overly compact, short arm deliveries, I always feel as though it's just a matter of time until their elbow explodes when they throw so many sliders. If it was a split finger/fastball mix like Kevin Gausman that's less stress on the elbow. But with Dylan Cease we are talking years and years and innings and innings of short arm deliveries, snap snap snap twist twist twist snap snap slider slider... I don't like being so negative and anticipating failure… But I don't like this move. His arm mechanics are very bad for preventing injury. I would pretty much say severe arm injury is inevitable..

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I am hoping Pete Walker can make some corrections to his delivery. He has done wonders with other veterans over the years.
 

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After the 2025 season, no more $9 500 level seats on Black Friday sale for 2026.
 

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What team were you watching, vlad was pedestrian in the regular season and bo did most of the heavy lifting before his injury, along with Springer. He was still second in hits after missing a month or so. He should not make 200 while vlad makes 500m.

I think he signs elsewhere for the same money the jays offer to spite them. He's tired of being second fiddle. They had to use him to protect vladdy while Bo doesn't need protection.
I think they will regret Vladdy's contract sooner rather than later. Bo is clutch with runners in scoring position. Something the Jays were lacking in the playoffs. He did miss the first 2 series against the Yanks and Ms.
 

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Every player wants that life altering contract where they can breathe easy and be comfortable. A guy like manoah seems like too much of a headcase to put it together. Many guys get into coaching after playing trying to make ends meet because they have no other skills.

Coaching is a terrible profession for 95% of people. Look at greg zaun coaching in bc somewhere now trying to get a shot at a higher league.
 

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I've never understood how that works. Does that mean he can leave if he wants to?

I don't agree with getting rid of him at all. He pitched way better last year than he did in 2024 and will probably be even better this year. I do know he has dealt with a tired arm constantly. Seems like as soon as he hits the 50 inning plateau for the season. Pretty drastic drop off from 97/98 even to 93 miles an hour. There must be something they can do with conditioning his arm. I wouldn't get rid of him though. He's going to be very effective for them coming out of the bullpen. They might just want to re-strategize how they use him and what role are they giving him exactly. I would suggest 6th/7th inning with the lead or tie bridge man to get to the set up man. I'm hoping the set up man would be Jeff Hoffman and I'm really really hoping the closer will be Diaz or Fairbank ....fingers crossed.

What I'm getting tired of hearing about is Kyle Tucker Kyle Tucker, Kyle Tucker ... Bichette would be the fit… There are too many outfielders right now that were way too important for overall team chemistry. Santander, Barger, Nathan Lucas, Snyder, Varsho, Miles Straw (who is basically useless. Like that TERB poster here that calls him miles "Strawfull" lol so true) And where would Kyle Tucker play? Unless they plan on trading someone… But again team chemistry. These guys were two outs away from winning the World Series. Imagine that. I wouldn't touch a damn thing. Bring back Bichette get him for second base, lock him up long-term. This is your DH in a few years from now..... sign Chris Bassett as your long man/emergency starter… Get Diaz or Fairbank for your bullpen… And lock up Bo long-term. And don't touch another thing and this team will win.

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I've never understood how that works. Does that mean he can leave if he wants to?

I don't agree with getting rid of him at all. He pitched way better last year than he did in 2024 and will probably be even better this year. I do know he has dealt with a tired arm constantly. Seems like as soon as he hits the 50 inning plateau for the season. Pretty drastic drop off from 97/98 even to 93 miles an hour. There must be something they can do with conditioning his arm. I wouldn't get rid of him though. He's going to be very effective for them coming out of the bullpen. They might just want to re-strategize how they use him and what role are they giving him exactly. I would suggest 6th/7th inning with the lead or tie bridge man to get to the set up man. I'm hoping the set up man would be Jeff Hoffman and I'm really really hoping the closer will be Diaz or Fairbank ....fingers crossed.

What I'm getting tired of hearing about is Kyle Tucker Kyle Tucker, Kyle Tucker ... Bichette would be the fit… There are too many outfielders right now that were way too important for overall team chemistry. Santander, Barger, Nathan Lucas, Snyder, Varsho, Miles Straw (who is basically useless. Like that TERB poster here that calls him miles "Strawfull" lol so true) And where would Kyle Tucker play? Unless they plan on trading someone… But again team chemistry. These guys were two outs away from winning the World Series. Imagine that. I wouldn't touch a damn thing. Bring back Bichette get him for second base, lock him up long-term. This is your DH in a few years from now..... sign Chris Bassett as your long man/emergency starter… Get Diaz or Fairbank for your bullpen… And lock up Bo long-term. And don't touch another thing and this team will win.

Philip
I think keeping Bichette should be priority numero uno. I don't care the WAR says. Bo is a better hitter especially with runners on base. He's also clutch. The only issue is him not wanting to play second base because he would have lower value. Jays do need another outfielder for sure. Springer in gonna be the full time DH and once he's gone it's gonna be Santander(another horrible contract by Shatkins). I'm sure Barger will be playing more at third this season too. After Varsho who can't hit a beach ball the outfield is pretty weak.
 

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I think keeping Bichette should be priority numero uno. I don't care the WAR says. Bo is a better hitter especially with runners on base. He's also clutch. The only issue is him not wanting to play second base because he would have lower value. Jays do need another outfielder for sure. Springer in gonna be the full time DH and once he's gone it's gonna be Santander(another horrible contract by Shatkins). I'm sure Barger will be playing more at third this season too. After Varsho who can't hit a beach ball the outfield is pretty weak.
I have a hard time finding room for an outfielder right now to be honest. I see Clement at third. With Springer being a DH they're not going to have Santander stand on his head lol he has to play somewhere.

And I wouldn't touch Nathan Lucas with a 10 foot pole. That guy was a key figure in character of this team… paid his dues in the minors, dedicated and hard-working, blue-collar, and still hits for decent average… very much a clutch key moment hitter. Great hard-working fielder… That's exactly what they need ongoing for as long as they can. And what about Jonatan Clase? Why is nobody talking about him anymore?

Philip
 

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The way I look at it. The Jays played 180 games last year (including playoffs), and wound up with nothing to show for it. the Jays still lost to the Dodgers in heart braking fashion, so as far as I'm concerned the Jays can sign whoever they want. Reason being, the Jays will probably play to sellout crowds at Rogers center for all 81 home games. I'm the glad jays signed Cease. Rogers can afford it.

I'm glad the Jays got rid of Yariel, as he was a very shaky pitcher, in the second part of the season. I hope the Jays sign Bo, but I would much prefer the Jays sign Tucker if possible. The MLB lockout is scheduled to start December 1/2026, so a lot of teams are afraid to commit big bucks to players like Bichette and Tucker.
 

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I've never understood how that works. Does that mean he can leave if he wants to?

I don't agree with getting rid of him at all.
Glad to let you know they didn't get rid of him. He has no rights to leave the organization now that he has cleared waivers since he has limited MLB experience. He is forced to accept his demotion. Jays still have to pay him (they just were not keen on the price tag but it is what is). Its not that they don't like Yariel, its just that they know he is overpaid and it was an easy way to clear a roster spot. If he pitches well in spring he will make the team. I think he will be up within the first few months.

It was a clever way to clear a roster spot because they didn't think anybody would pick up his contract - and if by the odd chance he had been claimed the Jays saved $7M they could have spent elsewhere.


Now the situation is very different if you have 5 years of experience (could be 4).
I'll use the example of Myles Straw - nice player but overpaid. If the Jays put him on waivers and nobody claimed him (and nobody would claim him), Straw has the right to refuse the demotion. He would become a Free Agent immediately, and the Jays would have to still pay out the remainder of his contract. Yariel doesn't have enough experience under MLB rules, to become a Free Agent.
 
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