Kremlin aide - US offer to end war is acceptable

seanzo

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I got 10 bucks on the US throwing big z under the bus, giving up full control over the four oblasts annexed by Russia and Crimea. The big question is will big z refuse or will he accept
 
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I got 10 bucks on the US throwing big z under the bus, giving up full control over the four oblasts annexed by Russia and Crimea. The big question is will big z refuse or will he accept
That and return of stolen Russian assets and some sanctions.
 

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I got 10 bucks on the US throwing big z under the bus, giving up full control over the four oblasts annexed by Russia and Crimea. The big question is will big z refuse or will he accept
Green T-shirt will be offered asylum by both Trump and Putin. He can
choose between Moscow and Florida to spend his retirement years.
 

nottyboi

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Yup, really impressive how it happened on Day 1.
In fairness to the Orange clown (he does not deserve it) the retardation that characterizes his govts policies is not all his, its due to the deep lack of intellectual capacity in all his aides. The only one that has a glimmer of intellect is Bessent but he lacks even a smidgen of courage.
 

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Putin will play Trump, as he has him in his pocket. Trump cannot seriously negotiate anything under the sun, band is very unlikely to bring up the tariffs in his so called discussions. Putin on the other hand will demand not only the territory that Russia has illegally occupied, but no doubt Donbas and several other surrounding regions and a regime change is very likely on his agenda!!

Will be interesting regarding the venue of these meetings!!
 

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I think someone on CNN said it is likely the UAE.
That was Putin's preferred venue:

 
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If there was any legit effort to find peace, they would be getting Zelenski and Putin together , instead of Trump and Putin, who will conspire to hide Trump's fear of Putin with phony pronouncements and threats, which will amount to nothing.
 

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Green T-shirt will be offered asylum by both Trump and Putin. He can
choose between Moscow and Florida to spend his retirement years.
You are assuming big z doesn't get hung from a lamp post by the bandara bois though. Even if he signs a peace deal in another country and never returns to what's left of Ukraine.... they'll get him eventually
 

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This kind of reporting means nothing without details.
It's just pleasing mouth noises by a diplomat with no substance.
If you google who he is, plus the fact its on RT, then you can quickly conclude this is a direct message from President. They are not gonna publish details as they don't want to tie their hands.
 

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If you google who he is, plus the fact its on RT, then you can quickly conclude this is a direct message from President. They are not gonna publish details as they don't want to tie their hands.
Exactly.
There's nothing to comment on until we know how they have chosen to tie their hands.
This is just "the meeting didn't fuck up completely and now we have no talks".

There is nothing to speculate on because nothing has been committed to.
 

SchlongConery

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That and return of stolen Russian assets and some sanctions.

STOLEN Russian assets?

Like the artillery shells, glide bombs and Shaheed drones Ukraine stole from Russia to destroy its own cities, towns, villages, hosptials, utilities ?

What a fucking brazen feces spewing :poop: clown 🤡you are.

No better than Trumpleputskin and Hamas leaders living in luxury and freedom while their people are being fucked over by their lies, brainwashing and gaslighting.
 
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If there was any legit effort to find peace, they would be getting Zelenski and Putin together , instead of Trump and Putin, who will conspire to hide Trump's fear of Putin with phony pronouncements and threats, which will amount to nothing.

As will any agreement, document, treaty or single ply toilet tissue printed in Russian fecal ink (aka The Ruble)

Russia is, and always has been the equivalent of Asian Leolist advertisers! 😜

Putin and Russia even fuck over their closest allies. Iran saved Russia from earlier defeat by supplying millions of tons of missiles, artillery, drones etc in exchange for direct and indirect support ...and cash money or gold.

Russia has since knocked off the Shaheed drone, improved it, made it cheaper and will soon render Iran's Shaheed's obsolete. And they didn't even pay their bill for the arms, nor the licensing fee for the drones! Never mind doing much more than write the equivilant of a TERB forum post saying they objected to the US/Israeli bombing them out of the nuclear age.

As always, Russia talks big bullshit, signs bullshit promises in disappearing Sharpie ink it never intends to live up to, and then doesn't pay, nor live up to its promises. No wonder Trump worships the toilet paper Putin shits on.



"...But a Western intelligence source says the expansion and the complete Russian integration of the Shahed-136, have effectively marginalized Iran, revealing a rift between Moscow and Tehran. They say Tehran has been growing increasingly impatient with the little return it’s received from Russia, despite having supported Moscow’s war effort with not just drones, but missiles and other assets.

That discontent effectively boiled over throughout Israel’s 12-day bombing campaign of targeting Iran’s nuclear weapons program in June, during which Russia’s statements of condemnation were seen as paltry support for a country that has been helping Moscow since the start of its full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

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But Russia’s distant approach was not surprising for the Western intelligence official CNN spoke with, who argued it showed the “purely transactional and utilitarian nature” of Russian cooperation with Iran.

“This explicit disengagement demonstrates that Russia never intervenes beyond its immediate interests, even when a partner – here an essential supplier of drones – is attacked,” they said.

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Dareini says Russia’s predatory behavior is not surprising and describes the relationship between the two countries as “both cooperation and competition.”

“It’s obvious that Russians want more, to get more and give less, and this is this applies to Iran as well,” he explained. “Iran has provided Russia with drones and technology and the factory, and it has not been for free.”


But in the process of expanding, the official says, Alabuga has been unable to meet obligations to its Iranian partners. According to them, in addition to the loss of control over the final product, Iranian authorities and companies, namely Sahara Thunder, have complained that some payments have not been made, in part because of the suffocating international sanctions the Russian economy has been under for more than three years.

“These obstacles add to Tehran’s frustration with the blockages hindering the transfer of Russian aeronautical technologies to Iran, which were promised by Moscow in exchange for its support,” the official added.

 
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SchlongConery

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Green T-shirt will be offered asylum by both Trump and Putin. He can
choose between Moscow and Florida to spend his retirement years.

That brave statesman didn't take a ride before, just asked for ammunition. No way he or his people are going to surrender to Russia or the US. And if the untrustworthy 'ally' of the United States stops helping Ukraine, Ukraine and the rest of the civilized world who see both Trump and Putin for who they are and the threat they pose to global secuity will build their own weapons and ammunition and keep destroying the gas and oil reservoir, presently, known as the Russian Federation.

And your misuse of the word "asylum" is laughable, as are your posts.🤡
 
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