Kremlin aide - US offer to end war is acceptable

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Zelenskyy CONFRONTS Trump for FALLING into Putin’s TRAP
Z may as well confront Putin for falling into Trump's trap.
The two (Trump and Putin) are acting in collusion to carve
out the parts of Ukraine that serve their interests.

Trump will tell Putin to feel free to take the 20% of Ukraine
already occupied by Russia and cease fire. Trump will then
tell his poodles in NATO to keep up with buying more American
weapons to defend Ukraine so he can focus on the pillage and
rape of the country's land to rob its rare earth minerals.
 
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Could Putin be stopped from advancement into Kyiv with Trump replaced by
one of Starmer, Macron, Merz and von der Leyen as the negotiator? I guess
Trump is their only hope for peace.
Putin cannot be stopped. The reason Trump changed in deadline from 50 days to 12 days is because Ukraine is close to collapse. I am surprised that Putin is going to Alaska. It would surprise me if this meeting results in peace. IMHO its more likely to lead WWIII then peace.
 

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Ukraine and Europeans present their plan for negotiations with Putin to US

Oleh Pavliuk, KATERYNA TYSHCHENKO
9 August 2025

European countries and Ukraine have responded to the "Russian ceasefire plan" with a counterproposal, which, in their opinion, should form the basis for upcoming negotiations between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin.


Source: The Wall Street Journal with reference to two informed European officials, as reported by European Pravda


Details: The proposal from Kyiv and its allies calls for a mandatory ceasefire before any other steps are taken, as well as any "exchange of territories" only on a mutual basis – that is, if Ukraine withdraws its troops from some regions, Russia must withdraw its troops from others, writes the WSJ.


"You can’t start a process by ceding territory in the middle of fighting," one of the publication's sources said.

In addition, this plan stipulates that any territorial concessions by Kyiv must be backed by ironclad security guarantees – in particular, Ukraine's potential membership in NATO, the article says.


WSJ sources say the goal of the plan is for Europe and Ukraine to establish a common red line that should apply to any potential negotiations with Russia.


This proposal was presented on Saturday at a meeting of national security advisers. The American side was represented by Vice President JD Vance, Secretary of State Marco Rubio and President Trump’s special envoys Steve Witkoff and Keith Kellogg.


European representatives told them that Ukraine's future cannot be discussed without Ukraine and that Europe will continue to provide Ukraine with weapons and funds regardless of the US position, one source told the WSJ.

Background: Amid news of the upcoming meeting between Trump and Putin in Alaska on 15 August, as well as media claims that Washington and Moscow want to reach an agreement to end the war in Ukraine that would lock in Russia's occupation of part of the territories seized during its full-scale invasion, Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said that "the answer to the Ukrainian territorial question is already there in the Constitution of Ukraine".

 
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How Ukraine’s allies helped Zelensky recover his standing with Trump

This week marked a major turnaround for Ukraine, culminating a five-month campaign by its allies.

When Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky got off the phone with President Donald Trump on Independence Day, his top aide could scarcely contain his relief.

“‘Wow, that was the best call with him we ever had,’” his chief of staff, Andriy Yermak, said after Zelensky hung up the call — and Zelensky agreed, according to a Ukrainian official who, like other officials interviewed for this article, spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe sensitive internal discussions.


The call felt so positive from Ukraine’s perspective that it caught Zelensky’s staff by surprise, the official said. “The spirit was uplifted, but it is too early to celebrate,” the official said. “We have to wait for actions.”

The Ukrainians know better than most how much fortunes can shift with Trump’s mercurial moods.

In February, Zelensky and Trump engaged in an Oval Office shouting match that ended with the Ukrainian president’s ejection from the White House.

The July 4 call marked a remarkable turnabout, leading to Trump’s decision this week to offer about $10 billion worth of weaponry for Europe to purchase on Ukraine’s behalf.

That shift culminated months of work by European leaders, Republicans on Capitol Hill and others sympathetic to the Ukrainian cause who gave Zelensky strategic advice about how to get Trump back on his side, including how to use the language of transaction and flattery that Trump appears to respond to.

“A lot of Ukraine’s allies have been in contact with Zelensky about this, but also among each other,” a European official said. “They’re talking about how you talk to Trump.”

Zelensky also benefited from Trump’s growing frustration with Russian President Vladimir Putin. That frustration boiled over the day before Trump and Zelensky spoke. A July 3 phone call between the U.S. and Russian leaders was followed by the most intense Russian drone assaults on Ukraine of the war.


Trump, in response, has publicly accused Putin of offering him “bulls---” during their conversations.

“I speak to [Putin] a lot,” Trump said earlier this week as he announced the new weapons sales for Ukraine. “I always hang up and say, ‘Well, that was a nice phone call.’ And then missiles launched into Kyiv or some other city. After that happens three or four times, you say the talk doesn’t mean anything.”

The turnaround in the Trump-Zelensky relationship keeps open the flow of U.S. arms for Ukraine at a crucial moment for Kyiv, with Russia pressing what it believes is a battlefield advantage.

For Zelensky, it has proved to be yet another close escape for a wartime leader who has had many of them since Russia invaded his country in February 2022. Back then, he drew global praise for holding resolute in Kyiv and galvanizing a fierce defense that U.S. intelligence agencies and others felt was unlikely. Now, under very different circumstances, he may have achieved another unexpected win.


Trump’s allies say that he hasn’t abandoned his primary goal: ending the war as quickly as possible.

“I’m on nobody’s side. You know the side I’m on? Humanity’s side. I want to stop the killing of thousands of people a week,” Trump told reporters on Tuesday.

But the Trump allies acknowledge the president’s mounting frustration with Putin and growing receptivity to the weapons-sales plan hatched among European leaders and Zelensky. The plan allows Trump to keep an arm’s length from support for Ukraine, while still preserving Ukraine’s strength enough to pressure Moscow toward a peace deal.

Zelensky said this week that he felt Trump was starting to see Putin in a less idealistic light.



“President Trump realizes that Putin is lying to him, and it is important that President Trump sees this for himself, not what he hears from someone else, but what he sees with his own eyes,” the Ukrainian leader told Newsmax — one of Trump’s favored media outlets.

“We have supported all the U.S. initiatives on the ceasefire. I supported all of President Trump’s initiatives, and he saw the reality. Putin just says one thing and then bombs.”

The patched relationship between Zelensky and Trump was not foreordained.

Policymakers and strategists from the U.S. and several European countries said that a coordinated effort to help rehabilitate Zelensky’s relationship with the president sparked into motion even before the Ukrainian leader departed Washington on that end-of-February evening, after White House staff dined on the lunch that was supposed to be shared with the Ukrainians.

European leaders helped draft language for Zelensky to use to apologize to Trump. They brainstormed a ceasefire proposal acceptable to Ukrainians that Russia ultimately rejected. And European leaders who have cellphone relationships with Trump — he sometimes rings out of the blue — used their moments on the line with him to underscore that Putin threatened U.S. interests.

French President Emmanuel Macron has been especially helpful, two European diplomats said, using his long-standing — albeit sometimes bumpy — relationship with Trump to hammer at the idea that supporting Ukraine will help deliver wins for the White House.

The two leaders speak almost every other day, the diplomats said, calling each other directly for impromptu talks about the challenges of the moment.

British Prime Minister Keir Starmer has also focused on building warm ties, and German Chancellor Friedrich Merz helped in recent weeks after he struck up a good relationship with Trump following their first Oval Office meeting in early June. Finnish President Alexander Stubb — whose golf game is excellent — also possesses the presidential digits. NATO chief Mark Rutte, who sat in the Oval Office with the president as he announced the new weapon-sales plan, has been on a Trump charm offensive.

After the February debacle, Zelensky calmed tensions in subsequent face-to-face interactions with Trump. At the urging of Macron and Starmer, Zelensky and Trump spoke privately, without aides, at the Vatican in April when both men were there for Pope Francis’s funeral. That conversation helped reset the relationship, diplomats said.

They met again in late June at a NATO summit in the Netherlands, where Zelensky brought a wish list of weapons alongside a proposal: The United States could keep weapons flowing if the Europeans helped Kyiv pay, three European officials said.

The NATO meeting seemed to go a long way toward patching the relationship, the officials said.

One official described the meeting in The Hague as “instrumental.” Another noted that Zelensky arrived in a suit-like jacket and shirt, after having been chastised for showing up at the White House in his more favored military-style fatigues. (Zelensky has said he’ll wear a suit once the war is over.)

In their own conversations with Trump, European leaders sought to flip the script and assert that Putin was obstructing the president’s ambitions to end the war. And last month, NATO officials made a concerted effort to deliver Trump a diplomatic win by promising a giant increase in European military outlays and tailoring the NATO summit to his attention span and his desire to declare successes.


A European diplomat said it was made clear to Zelensky that the NATO summit would focus on defense spending and putting on a “Trump show,” and could be less focused on Ukraine than in years past. Creating a meeting that appealed to Trump would benefit Kyiv, even if there were fewer fresh promises for Ukraine in the NATO leaders’ declaration, diplomats told Zelensky.

The bet paid off. Both Trump and Zelensky left their meeting in The Hague feeling it was “very friendly,” the European official said.

Trump’s softened tone could be seen in an exchange between the president and a Ukrainian reporter for the BBC during a news conference at the NATO meeting. The reporter asked Trump whether he would sell Patriot air defense systems to Ukraine. The president expressed sympathy to the reporter about the fact that she was living in Poland with her children while her husband fought on Ukraine’s front lines.

Zelensky and the European leaders’ efforts “built up to this moment,” the European official said. “It might have changed the trajectory. … There has been very careful work to help with this relationship,” he said.

In conversations with European leaders, Trump expressed frustration after speaking with Putin, who he said seemed intent on seizing more Ukrainian territory, a second official said.

In his July 4 call with Zelensky, Trump said that Ukraine would not change the course of the war by playing defense and needed to
go on the offensive, the Ukrainian official said. When Trump asked if Ukraine could bomb Moscow or St. Petersburg, the official said, Zelensky replied, “If we have the right weapons we can.”

The Financial Times first reported elements of the call.

Asked about the call earlier this week, Trump said, “No, he shouldn’t target Moscow.” He added that he wouldn’t supply longer-range weaponry to Ukraine that would enable it to hit the Russian capital.

White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt confirmed that Trump had asked Zelensky about Ukraine’s ability to hit Russian territory but said the question had been taken out of context. Trump was simply seeking information, not advocating that Zelensky do it, she said.

Now Trump has set a 50-day clock for Russia to reach a peace deal before imposing 100 percent tariffs on Russian imports and secondary sanctions against buyers of Russian energy.

New U.S. weaponry could reach Ukraine much faster than that, a second Ukrainian official said. Longer-range ATACMS missiles and other weapons “could change the trajectory at least for the next six months, or maybe more,” the official said. “If it is concentrated support for 50 days, that would be great.”

Still, Trump has zigzagged so often that some officials were reluctant to describe it as a change of heart.

“He seems to be realizing that he can’t trust Putin,” the second European official said. “So things are positive, until they change again.”

 

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Green T-shirt will be offered asylum by both Trump and Putin. He can
choose between Moscow and Florida to spend his retirement years.
So what are you saying..............This is Trump's plan C or D to fly to Ukraine or Russia and say he is there to negotiate peace, when in fact he is escaping the jurisdiction of U.S. Marshals for crimes he has committed when he no longer has immunity at the end of his presidential term?
 
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In addition, this plan stipulates that any territorial concessions by Kyiv must be backed by ironclad security guarantees – in particular, Ukraine's potential membership in NATO, the article says.

Putin will never agree for Ukraine to join NATO because he views NATO expansion as a direct threat to Russia’s national security and geopolitical influence. Since the end of the Cold War, NATO has gradually moved eastward, incorporating many former Soviet states and Warsaw Pact countries. For Putin, this represents a shrinking buffer zone between Russia and the West.

Ukraine is especially sensitive in this context. Not only is it geographically close, sharing a long border with Russia, but it also holds deep historical, cultural, and economic ties to Russia. Losing Ukraine fully to the Western sphere of influence, especially into a military alliance like NATO, would represent a significant strategic defeat. It would mean NATO forces could potentially be stationed directly on Russia’s border, something Putin has consistently framed as unacceptable.

Allowing Ukraine into NATO would also undermine Putin's broader goal of reasserting Russian influence over former Soviet territories. It could encourage other nations in the region to lean more toward the West, Russia has lost many countries as allies from the former U.S.S.R.
 

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European allies rally behind Ukraine ahead of Trump-Putin summit
Forceful show of support comes amid scramble to counter Trump’s suggestion of a swap to end the war.

August 10, 2025
Jones Hayden and Sam Clark

Ukraine’s European allies rallied behind the war-torn country on Saturday, stressing the need to respect its national sovereignty and to include Kyiv in peace negotiations, following U.S. President Donald Trump’s suggestion of a land swap to end the conflict.

The renewed show of support for Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s efforts to defend his country against Moscow’s aggression comes ahead of the meeting Trump plans with Russian President Vladimir Putin set for this coming Friday in Alaska.

“A diplomatic solution must protect Ukraine’s and Europe’s vital security interests,” the leaders of the U.K., France, Italy, Germany, Poland, Finland and the European Commission said in a joint statement issued late Saturday. “The path to peace in Ukraine cannot be decided without Ukraine,” they said.

“We remain committed to the principle that international borders must not be changed by force,” the leaders stressed.


Trump said on Friday that there will be “some swapping of territories” as part of a ceasefire deal between Russia and Ukraine, a proposition that was quickly rejected by Zelenskyy.


Zelenskyy said Kyiv is “ready to work together with President Trump,” but any decisions made without Ukraine are “unworkable,” he added.


Trump is open to holding a trilateral summit in Alaska that would include Zelenskyy, a White House official told reporters on Saturday. But Washington is currently planning a bilateral meeting with Putin at his request, the official added.


Ukraine and its allies have no doubts “about America’s ability to ensure that the war ends,” Zelenskyy said in a separate statement Saturday. “The
president of the United States has the leverage and the determination.”


Under the proposal being floated by the Trump administration, the Kremlin would agree to a freeze of the war along the contact line in Kherson and Zaporizhzhia, where Russia controls less land than in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions, a person familiar with the matter told POLITICO. In return, Moscow would be allowed to keep the Donbas, said the person, granted anonymity to discuss sensitive diplomacy.

U.S. special envoy Steve Witkoff met with Putin last week and told Trump that the Russian president had presented the terms under which the Kremlin would agree to stop its military offensive in Ukraine, a White House official told POLITICO. The official declined to describe Russia’s terms, but Trump said land swaps between Russia and Ukraine are under discussion.

European governments scrambled on Saturday to coordinate ahead of the Trump-Putin summit set for Aug. 15. British Foreign Secretary David Lammy arranged an urgent meeting of European and Ukrainian officials in the U.K. to discuss the prospects for a ceasefire agreement, in a gathering that included U.S. Vice President JD Vance.

In their statement late Saturday, the European leaders, emphasized that “international borders must not be changed by force” and stressed that a truce needs to be in place in order to facilitate peace talks.

“Meaningful negotiations can only take place in the context of a ceasefire or reduction of hostilities,” the leaders said. “Ukraine has the freedom of choice over its own destiny,” they added.

 

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American poodles they are but NATO-Europe and the UK will still
do what they can to sabotage Trump and Putin's negotiation.
 

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Ahhh shucks, you retarded boomers say the nicest things
You're welcome!

Glad you took my advice. Incredible how fast the effects of the medication have kicked in!

Now, I'm going out to enjoy some of this beautiful sunshine and sunset on beautiful Lake Ontario! Wanna come and get some Vitamin D too? We spend too much time on this fucking internet.
 
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Putin will play Trump, as he has him in his pocket. Trump cannot seriously negotiate anything under the sun, band is very unlikely to bring up the tariffs in his so called discussions. Putin on the other hand will demand not only the territory that Russia has illegally occupied, but no doubt Donbas and several other surrounding regions and a regime change is very likely on his agenda!!

Will be interesting regarding the venue of these meetings!!
Wouldn't surprise me if TACO gives Alaska back too
 
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Wouldn't surprise me if TACO gives Alaska back too

The territories in Ukraine already lost to Russia are all
Trump have to give up. Alaska is rich in oil but Russia
has enough of it. Trump is not as smart as Putin but
will fight to protect U.S.'s right to Ukraine's rare earth
mineral wealth.
 
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STOLEN Russian assets?

Like the artillery shells, glide bombs and Shaheed drones Ukraine stole from Russia to destroy its own cities, towns, villages, hosptials, utilities ?

What a fucking brazen feces spewing :poop: clown 🤡you are.

No better than Trumpleputskin and Hamas leaders living in luxury and freedom while their people are being fucked over by their lies, brainwashing and gaslighting.
Those were gifts. 👍🏻
 

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What is the truth about trump, the felony charges were manufactured to try to eliminate him. He tried to exaggerate his real estate holdings to get more money, everyone in real estate does that to get money. It’s up to the bank to investigate property values, no bank lost money. He consensually fucked a porn whore who had hard feelings. He said a few bad words about grabbing someone by the pussy, so fucking what.

He's exactly what the usa needed right now; border bullshit, trans bullshit, dei bullshit, university protests bullshit, cancel culture bullshit, all needed to be eradicated. The epstien stuff may be his eventual downfall, yet the retards ignore Clinton's connection to epstien.

Look at the fucking retard alternative Harris who can't even put a fucking sentence together without giggling and cackling like a fucking teenager. What 60 year old person have you ever met that fucking giggles?
 
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What is the truth about trump, the felony charges were manufactured to try to eliminate him. He tried to exaggerate his real estate holdings to get more money, everyone in real estate does that to get money. It’s up to the bank to investigate property values, no bank lost money. He consensually fucked a porn whore who had hard feelings. He said a few bad words about grabbing someone by the pussy, so fucking what.

He's exactly what the usa needed right now; border bullshit, trans bullshit, dei bullshit, university protests bullshit, cancel culture bullshit, all needed to be eradicated. The epstien stuff may be his eventual downfall, yet the retards ignore Clinton's connection to epstien.

Look at the fucking retard alternative Harris who can't even put a fucking sentence together without giggling and cackling like a fucking teenager. What 60 year old person have you ever met that fucking giggles?
I do enjoy reading MAGA walk away from the chief rapist.
 
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He's exactly what the usa needed right now; border bullshit, trans bullshit, dei bullshit, university protests bullshit, cancel culture bullshit, all needed to be eradicated. The epstien stuff may be his eventual downfall, yet the retards ignore Clinton's connection to epstien.

 
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